Thread: The reason LandRover isnt building in this market

Happy Birthday Digger.

Hi Digger, your first post may all be forgive now, I have just jumped the 14 pages. But is there a Japanese dealer near you? Maybe if your MY12 Defender is playing up like that after warranty, and the dealer is....well shall we say quite typical is almost every way; then outside the Land Rover Defender bubble other cars do the job just fine. They may not have soul, but you get sick of soul after a while. Especially when it cost so much in time let alone money. I'd flog mine if I hadn't spent so much accessorising it. Just some observations of ownership.

Originally Posted by Tombie

He hasn't got the Gall to drive it..

Lol.



Not anymore anyway.





Get well soon Digger.

Originally Posted by newhue

Hi Digger, your first post may all be forgive now, I have just jumped the 14 pages. But is there a Japanese dealer near you? Maybe if your MY12 Defender is playing up like that after warranty, and the dealer is....well shall we say quite typical is almost every way; then outside the Land Rover Defender bubble other cars do the job just fine. They may not have soul, but you get sick of soul after a while. Especially when it cost so much in time let alone money. I'd flog mine if I hadn't spent so much accessorising it. Just some observations of ownership.

You ever had to deal with a T- dealership? Or The Lion?

The experiences many of my colleagues have had with the "reliable" brands has been more akin to contempt...

And I have yet to see a single vehicle out there in the 4x4 wagon class that is any more reliable, has better service, or has spares on the shelf.

My mother gets nothing but lip service on vehicle warranty issues - including "normal wear and tear" when her high end leather seats ripped after 25k.

Or the front end rebuild they tried to charge her for when it was subject to warranty steering failure and during the work they damaged a component and when asked to check the "clunk" tried to claim it was her - you can see the tool marks from previous work..

One thing Digger has been getting is excellent local representation by the Dealer - only head office (LR Aus) has shown contempt. What they forget is that consumers like Digger are protected under law, and pushing back will not be sufficient.

The engine must be fit for purpose, and will easily be covered under that legal requirement.

Well said Tombie

Good on ya Tombie.

Tommie, I have dealt with Holden and I would not but one of them either. I know what you mean but mine was second hand and out of warranty.
I have come and gone and come again. I guess not much has changed around here. People still putting the marc up on a pedestal, people still having appalling manufacturing failures and issues; like no grease. The reason they are not building in this market is perhaps it cost LR to much to warrant them. Be it dealers milking hand made, or they are notoriously poor built cars and the market doest like it. Yes there a few who have not had issues, but I'd guess 7 out of 10 have. The lack of development shows an English arrogance that they know best, why does my 2010 transferee case leak after 150K just like the 1983 county did. Why does that hand brake still exist where it does?

I guess forums are for people trying to fix their car, or one who see it as a hobby. I'm over blowing wind up LR's flag pole. I paid considerably better money for a defender than what others are asking in the market, and yes it shines off road about 5% or it's life, but the rest of the time it just squeaks, leaks, and randomly produces issues to keep sucking money. I don't hate it, just that's the reality of mine. I have lost count how much it has cost LR in warranty, and them for me out of. "go beyond" they say, I say well past the dealer to another.

Smile mate...

One of the new work Utes by 150k had 3 gearboxes, 4 clutches, 2 steering racks, a Drivers door, alternator, 2 engines...

In fact it had all of that by 80k and was a very well looked after vehicle - services every 5k (lease requirement), 2 responsible drivers only.


Design - hand brake - on a Defender is different to quality, so let's let that one lie..


I don't pedestal the marque, I have just had the most reliable run out of the last 5 vehicles over all vehicles I have owned...

As for not building Defender sales in this market - $50k enthusiast vehicle (bare bones) or $50k fully featured Dual Cab (Amarok) / Ranger) - many will go the refined interior of the DC (many have a SWMBO that wants crazy stuff like Carpet, Dual Climate etc )