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Thread: Problem with front radius arm to axle Superpro bushes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    From one of the engineers at Fulcrum/Super Pro.
    I've spoken to them several times over the years.

    AFAIK all the suspension bushes for Landies are at least as soft as OE, I have no reason to doubt him as in my experience my arse bears that out.
    The only ones harder are the radius arm bushes for comp vehicles.
    I thought that you had some personal connection to the brand.
    Well I must take your word for it as you have taken someone else's word for it (surely not a biased one), but let us recount here, my first criticisms were at eurothane type bushes in general, but if you say that you have been told that Superpro in particular is softer, then so be it. I cant argue that.
    The jury is out Superpro is best , backed by the voice of the company via someone else's voice. Go figure a company claiming there product is best.
    What I should have said is ,be carful with eurothane as it has a tendency to be hard unless it is Superpro.
    Case closed.

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    Hmm yes I would say there is a strong chance I could be at fault for my particular issue.

    Perhaps the nylock nuts were buggered or something letting them come loose?

    We will see how rubber bushes goes.

    SG1. I think checking for slack in the bolts would be a good place to start.
    It gets ugly if left too long

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopper View Post
    UNINFORMED.
    Obviously YOU didn't read my FIRST sentence.

    " The inside of the brackets are probably worn a fair bit and as was mentioned renew the bolts also. When I did mine I had to retighten (very tight) a few times but it finally took up. "

    I then went on to give MY own opinion on eurothane bushes in general, ( sorry about that ) based on my experience "professional " as I make my living out of it.
    It is clear that this differs from your opinion, SO WHAT.
    Did I mention my FIRST sentence , or cant you see past the eurothane spiel I gave , and that you took that personally as a dig at Superpro.
    Did I also mention that I don't like any eurothane regardless of colour or nationality.
    Still interested to see where it is stated that superpro is softer.
    Talking about all the same, I have never been asked with eurothane type bushes would I like soft medium or hard and never asked if I would like fries with that either.
    I can read just fine. I guess it was you directly telling me to make the comparason between rubber and urethane that gave me the idea of A: that's your main interest in this thread, here and B you have little experience with Super Pro bushes.

    On that note, how many km have you done in your LR product with Super Pro bushes installed?

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    UNINFORMED,
    Have you been drinking ?
    Here we go with lack of comprehension skills again.
    I did not say you cant read , I said you didn't read my first sentence way back at post #10.
    I also did not directly tell you to make the comparison at all, I made the comparison for everybody reading this thread. That far back in the thread I was not even addressing you. You only became special to me when you started slapping your foreheads. I am kind like that , I will talk to anybody.
    On that note , I did not say I have Superpro in my LR.
    You may read but you also need to process the info.
    Hence my question at the top.

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    How about you all give it a rest?!

    Just agree to disagree and move on.
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Thank You Dullbird

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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    How about you all give it a rest?!

    Just agree to disagree and move on.
    id rather stand my ground

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    Hi Everybody,

    I was surprised to open my computer this morning and find so many answers to my questions. I am glad to see things are getting more relaxed (thanks Dullbird) during these last few posts.

    Thanks to everybody for their contributions. I will certainly take a look at the bolt wear / bracket-hole wear issue. Righ now in my mind this is the main "suspect" but I will go step by step and see what hard evidence says.

    It is Friday Easter holiday on this side of the world and I have an "asado" (kind of a barbecue) in the hills nearby Mendoza at noon. I will put a friend on the steering wheel and instruct him to do some slow movement articulation while I look and listen from as close as possible (not too close hopefully).

    Depending on what I see and hear I will grab my tools tomorrow morning and see what is going on down there with my almost new SP bushes.

    Hopefully I will continue this story until the end and be able to tell what was wrong in order to be able to pay back for your help.

    Cheers,
    Stgo
    PS: by the way, I laso noticed my bolt looked a bit short after taking the picture yesterday. I will address this as well.

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    Just remember there was a change over between the 300tdi and TD5.

    The 300tdi are wider arms and bigger bolts and the Td5 are thinner arms and smaller bolts.

    Make sure which you have. After all not unusual for Land Rover to use up the remaining parts before changing to new stock. And as you said you have one of the very early TD5's

    So you may have 300tdi arms on a td5 and this would mean TD5 bushes would be lose in them.

    Just a thought to put out there

    I personally have never had a problem with super pro bushes.
    95 300 Tdi Defender 90
    99 300 Tdi Defender 110
    92 Discovery 200tdi
    50 Series 1 80
    50 Series 1 80


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    Well......bugger. Been in the field today but could not identify where the bloddy clunk noise is comming from. It could perhaps also be the Panhard rod bushes, according to where the noise is comming.
    Right now I am 70% for the radius arm to axle bushes and 30% for the panhard rod bushes, regarding probabilities.

    It is not as easy as I thought. When you try to produce the nosie it does not happen, when you walk away, it comes back.......and listening is just not enough to define precisey wher eit is comming from

    There was another Defender in the field today with me an almost stock 300Tdi. His bolts where definitely longer. Not sure about the width of the radius arms, we did not have something to measure width.

    I have a doubt regarind Read9's comment: SP's web page specifies that the same bushes correspond to 300Tdi Defenders and Td5's up to 2002 so I guess my Defender should have the same bushes as a Tdi.

    This is from SP's web page: "Suspension Parts & Poly Bushings for
    LAND ROVER Landrover 90,110,130 Defender & County - LA & YA Chassis County & Defender 300TDI LA On & TD5 YA On 1993 - 2002"

    My Defender's VIN is: SALLDHM88YA187389

    Anybody knows how I should go about finding the size of the bolts (the ones which tighten the radius arm to axle bushes) which my Defender should have brought from factory so that I can check if the ones I have are appropiate?


    Another question: can I unbolt the panhard rod and use the vehicle for a short drive to check if the problem has to do with the panhard rod bushes? Or is this a crazy idea? I understand the Panhard prevents the axle from moving sideways, is this correct? Any risk in removing just to heck while climbing a big log within my garden?

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