Thread: Meet my 90, and share the adventure.

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

It's a button knot with the ends fed back thru the middle of the knot and tapered, spliced into the core of the other 2 strands of dyneema.
Apparently some grand-master of knot karma sutra designed the knot, and it's commonly used in a number of applications with good success.
Some slackline people tied and tested this design to give approx 218% if the single line strength of the dyneema.
The loose ends are tapered and fed back thru the middle of the 'tail' end, which you might be able to see it's a bit chunky in the pics.

Looks good. Sounds good.

Originally Posted by Juniorgc

Billy, have a look on YouTube, there are some great videos on making these. I will be make Ng some too but still researching the safety of them over d shackles

Thanks for that.

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

I know a bloke who has a 12T forklift and lots of heavy things that should be able to give it a good workout too...

As you describe it, it should easily be good for 12 T. Please don't forget to take videos of the test.

Video might be incriminating.

I'm more concerned with the dynamic loading of the soft shackle- I'd think twice about using it with a snatch strap (kinetic recovery).
Winching would be fine as it's static, but There is still lots of psychological comfort in something that's made of metal.

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

Video might be incriminating.

I'm more concerned with the dynamic loading of the soft shackle- I'd think twice about using it with a snatch strap (kinetic recovery).
Winching would be fine as it's static, but There is still lots of psychological comfort in something that's made of metal.

I'm not sure how sensitive the use of your mates forklift might be, or how much you paid for the materials, but there's nothing criminal about experiment.
I always seem to shy away from Kinetic Recoveries. The whole idea sends shivers up my spine, like people playing with knives or broken glass. But. I can tell you, I'd rather cop a whack in the Mellon with your soft shackle, than the ones in my Recovery Kit.

T.A. Where is your expected use for the Soft shackle?

Mainly expected to be used during winching, along with my existing hardware. Like I mentioned, I'd prefer not to use it for kinetic recovery (rightly or wrongly), just a personal preference.
I'm thinking that it will be another arrow in the quiver if it's ever needed, rather than needing to rely on it all the time.

I'm planning to take the flatlink shackle off the winch line and use just the tube thimble that's on it with a soft shackle and a few big trees to put some strain on the knot and my splicing.
I gave it a once-over with the hi-lift last night, but ran out of muscle before the soft shackle gave way.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

I always seem to shy away from Kinetic Recoveries. The whole idea sends shivers up my spine, like people playing with knives or broken glass. But. I can tell you, I'd rather cop a whack in the Mellon with your soft shackle, than the ones in my Recovery Kit.

I'm similarly nervous about kinetic recoveries, but i have no friends so it's rarely a problem.

I've got two soft shackles now, but both are commercial ones from Bubba Rope (because I'm a lazy, inner west tosser). I'm very comfortable using them in situations where I was nervous using steel shackles (although I still have a bucket load of "normal" shackles as well).

I think the soft ones are awesome, yuppy-ish and really light, which is the best thing in my 90.

Only challenges I see with soft shackles is angle and strength. Rope has strength to a certain angle only. So wrapped around a thimble may be too tight and angle.

I like them, but as most recoveries I've done are kinetic they aren't a good thing. (Most are quick easy snatch recovery and keep going; anything heavier is winch use).

I do like the concept though and have considered them.

Dyneema doesn't have terrific sheer strength either, so bending it to sharp edges is a no no. Lashing or mousing it to a thimble would be fiddly at best. I see limited applications but I'd still like a couple.