Thread: 2016 'Defender'

What is Toyota's plan for the 70 series and a replacement. They have lost the mine segment due to ANCAP etc.
Surely this is the segment the Defender should be expanded into, not the relatively soft Hilux car like segment.

Originally Posted by AndyG

What is Toyota's plan for the 70 series and a replacement. They have lost the mine segment due to ANCAP etc.
Surely this is the segment the Defender should be expanded into, not the relatively soft Hilux car like segment.

Hey AndyG. Yes. See above.

Originally Posted by Orkney 90

Thank you for the clarification MrLandy. Of course, it all makes sense now... the "new" Defender... What ever it will be, I am happy that I have the "old" model. Again, each to their own. However, no matter how capable the new model will be, some if not most purists will not like it.

I just hope that there is scope somewhere in the world (India perhaps?) to continue building the current Defender in its present form for many years to come.

Insiders at Land Rover have even said the Defender will still be manufactured outside of the UK, and then sold as a commercial vehicle back to Europe and RTW. ( thats not a official LR Statement )

Most of the Purists will probably hate the new Defender and I am sure thats what Land Rover are hoping for, it will then sell in its millions, more so to those who drive Jepp's, Toyota's etc selling on its iconic brand for the next generation of land rover owners to enjoy, and they might make money selling it. Just don't make it look too crappy and you will have a winner.

Originally Posted by Landybitz

Land Rover have even said the Defender will still be manufactured outside of the UK, and then sold as a commercal vehicle back to Europe and RTW.

Most of the Purists will probably hate the new Defender and I am sure thats what Land Rover are hoping for, it will then sell in its millions, more so to those who drive Jepp's, Toyota's etc selling on its iconic brand for the next generation of land rover owners to enjoy, and they might make money selling it. Just don't make it look too crappy and you will have a winner.

Nope, JLR have said no such thing.
Enthusiasts are "hoping" that Defender will be built elsewhere, but JLR have made no such "committment". They have of course said they are "thinking/considering" etc etc, but there has been absolutely nothing "official" whatsoever from JLR.
Like you, I LOVE the current Defender, wouldn't mind a bigger more powerful engine, but it is what it is & I'm happy with that!
I don't know that I'm gonna be unhappy with the new one, 'cause I know nothing at all about what it will be like. However, knowing me, & how I like "traditional" stuff, maybe I'll say, something like, jeez, I wouldn't mind that stuff (drivetrain) in my (current ('13)) Defender?
The "New" Defeender is "The World's best kept secret", so who knows what it's gonna be, apart from a few boffins in the inner sanctum of JLR?
And there is another aspect, IMHO, to this whole "scenario". Obviously Defender's whole "being" is largely responsible for the Landrover/JLR "brand" that we know today. But whilst in the "old days" when the Landrover/Defender whatever was the major product, it simply ain't any more. Landrover have so many products, so many developments, so much demand, & maybe much more demand than for Defender type vehicles, maybe, just maybe, they aren't going to "push" this category as much as they used to, when there is seemingly an unlimited demand for stuff like Evoque, Discovery Sport, Range Rover SVR etc etc. I just don't know how much JLR are relying upon Defender to fit into the "New Age". No criticism to anybody or anything, I just don't know.
Pickles.

No new Disco or Defender until 2018 - motoring.com.au

2018! Maybe this thread needs re-naming. Here's an interesting quote as well:
"If the Defender had have changed through a natural cycle, every 10 years, through 60 years, what would it be like today? That's the answer you're looking for, that's what we need to create," said McGovern."

If you have seen Land Rovers presentation the new Defender is definitely part of there future plans. What ever form it may be in.

Yes Landy, I've seen that,......and I'm just as excited, (and impatient), as you, and everyone else I guess, to know what it all means!
Pickles.

[QUOTE=Landybitz;2365227]If you have seen Land Rovers presentation the new Defender is definitely part of there future plans. What ever form it may be in.

Yes, but VERY worrying...'luxury', 'leisure' and 'dual purpose' BUT NO 'WORK' category. Which means no heavy duty category. Hmmm.

Broadly I see it as: Range Rover = luxury; Discovery = leisure and Defender = work / defence. If Defrnder is to become 'dual purpose - luxury leisure' it is the end of Defender.