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    Thanks Dervish, yes I'm aware of that transplant option. I guess I'm also interested in the longer term...do you think there will come a time when old isuzu's can no longer be rebuilt?

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    [QUOTE=Dervish;2385333]..........

    The thought of taking a vehicle with so many sensors and ecus up to the Cape would put me off entirely. Limping home the ~1000km from this crossing to the nearest dealer in Cairns would be a terrible experience. I personally am very reluctant to buy any overlanding vehicle with more electronics than the old faithful 300tdi, and I'm an electrical engineer.
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    It is impossible for any new design to meet not only Euro, but many other country's (including Australia's) emissions, theft resistance, fuel economy, and other rules that will be in place by the time the new Defender is into production without these. Hopefully, the various sensors and ecus will have been adequately hardened against water and dust ingress by then.

    Fortunately, my 110 and 2a will probably last me out, and possibly my grandchildren as well if looked after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Good point Tact, how have you solved this?
    A simple matter like dropping your remote fob in a river, losing it, or otherwise breaking it - will see a TDCi owner unable to un-immobilize, start and drive his vehicle. That's ok when in town within 500m of a latte joint with free wifi.

    To solve at least the damaged/lost fob scenario, What I WANT:
    - to know my EKA. With that you can get moving without a functional remote/immobilizer fob. So far Land Rover Malaysia have been useless in providing me the code. I bought a Nanocom Evo to get into the security ECU and read the EKA myself. But this hasn't worked either!

    To solve issues should the security module in the vehicle fail:
    - a working Nanocom Evo so as to turn off immobilizer functions completely before going bush

    I have neither of above because both LRM and my Nanocom have failed to live up to expectations (at least Nanocom (BBS) are working on a solution)

    (There is a weird problem with Defenders as they are supplied in some countries like Malaysia - LR does not put the VIN in the ECUs. And some versions of the 2.2l TDCi has some changes in the communications spec. Both make it hard for the Nanocom to do what it should)

    So in the mean time I do what I can - I bring the spare set of keys with me on every trip and sequester them safely outside of my vehicle. Usually in another vehicle altogether. Should help the first of the problems above (lost/damaged fob)
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    You guys get old real quick,change the channel,for all our sake's,change the channel. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    You guys get old real quick,change the channel,for all our sake's,change the channel. Pat
    Oh Pat, if Land Rover can do no wrong in your eyes, that just makes you a fan boy stuck on the one channel. Yup, it's all peachy for those princesses who want a luxury runabout with underfloor insulation. The jury is out on anything else.

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    Plenty of those princess runabouts, from td5 powered vehicles (both disco and defender) as well as later tdv6 and puma engines vehicles have done incredibly remote trips including the cape, arnhem land, etc etc. Bit of common sense in how you behave behind the wheel in such locations goes a long way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    Plenty of those princess runabouts, from td5 powered vehicles (both disco and defender) as well as later tdv6 and puma engines vehicles have done incredibly remote trips including the cape, arnhem land, etc etc. Bit of common sense in how you behave behind the wheel in such locations goes a long way

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    Nicely put DiscoMuppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    Oh Pat, if Land Rover can do no wrong in your eyes, that just makes you a fan boy stuck on the one channel. Yup, it's all peachy for those princesses who want a luxury runabout with underfloor insulation. The jury is out on anything else.
    LR does lots of things wrong in my eye's but all the same scary eletrickery engine posts over and over and over and ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.How we ever survive after the series models is a miracle I tells ya,a miracle . Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Muppet View Post
    Plenty of those princess runabouts, from td5 powered vehicles (both disco and defender) as well as later tdv6 and puma engines vehicles have done incredibly remote trips including the cape, arnhem land, etc etc. Bit of common sense in how you behave behind the wheel in such locations goes a long way

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    I'm starting to wonder if they do reading all these posts,we must be very lucky is all I can say. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    I'm starting to wonder if they do reading all these posts,we must be very lucky is all I can say. Pat
    Err.. dear Pat - I own, drive (into very remote places as well as city commute), and love, my TDCi Defender.

    I certainly was not bagging TDCis for having electrickery. I love all that the electrickery delivers with my TDCi.

    Did you not notice my post about not being paranoid around water in a Puma? Which doesn't mean go crazy in water, just a casual STFU to those with puma-paranoia saying "don't get it wet!".

    Even my comment about the immobiliser wasn't pointing out any fault in the system (though there are those too) or based on puma-phobic electrickery hate thinking.

    Its a fact of life for those Puma's with immobilisers - lose or damage the key fob and you'll be pushing your TDCi home if there are no latte vendors or flatbeds around. Unless you have a way around it. Its just common sense to prep for that.

    Or else prep for discussions like this:
    "Yeah holiday of the century spoiled... had to leave the vehicle deep inside the hard stuff. Going to take weeks for it to be towed out to somewhere where a flattop can get it back to LR."

    "What happened!? Gearbox fall out? Engine exploded? Vicious emus?"

    "Nah... nothing serious like that! Key fell from my pocket and I stepped on the remote. Couldn't disarm the immobiliser to start the car."

    Your shout.
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