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    Blown Puma Engine

    Hey guys,
    Unfortunately my defender left me stranded on the side of the road today, was driving up an incline on the highway at about 90-100km/hr and it blew a heap of black smoke, lost all power and a really loud knocking noise started in the engine. Got the NRMA out to check it out and they think its stuffed possibly a crankshaft or something and likely going to need a rebuild. Its been towed and is currently parked out the front of the mechanics waiting for them on Monday to have a look at it.

    Has anyone had any similar experiences? Its a 2009 PUMA and only done about 115k kms.

    If it is blown is it worth getting it rebuilt or am i better of to replace the engine completely? Anyone got any suggestions or ideas of $$'s involved.

    Any advice is much appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Andrew

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    Oiling issue? There is a oil pump recall going on. Get someone to run your vin to see if it might have been affected
    -Mitch
    'El Burro' 2012 Defender 90.

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    Cheers Toxic Avenger, it possibly could be, cause when we checked the oil after it had sat for a couple of hours there was hardly any in, none was leaking externally, it doesnt burn any, so im not sure where its gone, a good couple of litres seems to have vanished.

    I'll get it checked out, if it has been recalled do you know if there is any chance of getting the repair works covered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger View Post
    Oiling issue? There is a oil pump recall going on. Get someone to run your vin to see if it might have been affected
    The oil pump issue is for 2012/13 2.2 motors

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackerwells View Post
    Hey guys,
    Unfortunately my defender left me stranded on the side of the road today, was driving up an incline on the highway at about 90-100km/hr and it blew a heap of black smoke, lost all power and a really loud knocking noise started in the engine. Got the NRMA out to check it out and they think its stuffed possibly a crankshaft or something and likely going to need a rebuild. Its been towed and is currently parked out the front of the mechanics waiting for them on Monday to have a look at it.

    Has anyone had any similar experiences? Its a 2009 PUMA and only done about 115k kms.

    If it is blown is it worth getting it rebuilt or am i better of to replace the engine completely? Anyone got any suggestions or ideas of $$'s involved.

    Any advice is much appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Andrew
    Black smoke is an indication of a fuel system problem.
    It is likely to be the Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve which has blocked or become stuck. This is what happened to me recently exactly the same symptoms

    Good luck, keep us posted

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    I stand corrected.
    -Mitch
    'El Burro' 2012 Defender 90.

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    Vince, "Dockstrada" on here has an engine for sale on eBay for a reasonable price.
    It is a 2.4TDCi, from a 2011 model 90 with approx 75,000kms on it.

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-AU

    He is asking $4000.00
    Which is pretty reasonable priced compared to other engines that I have seen lately for sale in Australia.

    Or you can get a brand new "stripped" engine from the UK, for a 2.4 TDCi (ZSD-424) for approx $5690.00 (not including postage).

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-GB

    Or look up part Land Rover part number DA1182 for stripped engine prices for 2.4TDCi's from places like lrdirect and britpart and so on.

    You can also get a later 2.2 version (ZSD-422), but it is not that compatible with the 2.4 electrics and a few other things that you have in your vehicle, there are a few changes to be made if putting in the later 2.2 engine and it's not really worth the hassle doing these changes.

    Hope this helps,
    Mike.

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    There was a recall for the oil jets that cool the piston skirts or something similar?

    Maybe worth seeing if yours was in the recall and if it was done?

    Here you go have a look through here.

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130...7-onwards.html

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    My 2cents, be careful thinking you can lob in a transit engine. The ZSD424 has modified oil galleries and other minor but important modifications to ensure the engine copes with side angles and its 4wd application.

    My commiseration for the engine failure, sucks no matter what car you drive.

    MLD

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90@ View Post
    Vince, "Dockstrada" on here has an engine for sale on eBay for a reasonable price.
    It is a 2.4TDCi, from a 2011 model 90 with approx 75,000kms on it.

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-AU

    He is asking $4000.00
    Which is pretty reasonable priced compared to other engines that I have seen lately for sale in Australia.

    Or you can get a brand new "stripped" engine from the UK, for a 2.4 TDCi (ZSD-424) for approx $5690.00 (not including postage).

    http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-GB

    Or look up part Land Rover part number DA1182 for stripped engine prices for 2.4TDCi's from places like lrdirect and britpart and so on.

    You can also get a later 2.2 version (ZSD-422), but it is not that compatible with the 2.4 electrics and a few other things that you have in your vehicle, there are a few changes to be made if putting in the later 2.2 engine and it's not really worth the hassle doing these changes.

    Hope this helps,
    Mike.
    Cheers for the info Mike. Much appreciated.
    Thanks for the heads up guys. Will be able to find out how bad the damage is tomorrow, hopefully its not as bad as what im expecting!

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