2.2 puma 130 engine failure

Hi

My Puma 2.2 failed also in a 130 @50,000kms Turned out in the end, that it was a split oil cooler. Still needed a new hoses, heater pipes, oil cooler, expansion bottle, etc. and flush everythin. Oil ran through cooling system.

Point is though mine too was a few weeks out a warranty. Mine was serviced independent of the dealer at bigger name workshop. Had fully stamped logbook every 5000kms.
I was also not the original owner, 2nd.

Land rover paid for all parts and I paid for labor. At full retail was over 2ks worth of parts and 13 hours labour. I was happy with this deal

I would lean on them hard but politely I think they are responsive and sensitive about the back end of ownership, provided the vehicle has been treated well.

The vehicles engine has to have a reasonable life span and 3 years is not that at all, 10 years at a min you'd reckon.

Clive

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Originally Posted by Beery

Disappointing to hear your bad run Summiitt.
I had the rear crank seal replaced under warranty recently. It was leaking slowly. They said the old one looked like it was damaged during the engine assembly. Maybe its a recurring problem at the Ford engine plant.

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I had rear main seal replaced at 10,000 they said bad assembly at factory

Went and saw the lads in the workshop today, turns out no 1 piston is cracked, so bad it wouldn't show any reading on a compression test, motor is R.S. Will wait and see what LRs answer is..

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Originally Posted by Summiitt

Went and saw the lads in the workshop today, turns out no 1 piston is cracked, so bad it wouldn't show any reading on a compression test, motor is R.S. Will wait and see what LRs answer is..

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Cracked piston? What causes that? Or is it basically totally random?

Usually a fuel issue......excess heat more than likely. How and why is a different story.


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Knocking-detonation is a common cause of cracked pistons,faulty injectors ala Denso causes melted ones. Pat

hi summiitt my 2.2 blew at 28000km after 20000km of hard towing
cracked number 4 piston dealer didnt want anything to do with it so we repaired at our work shop.got injectors tested by two reputable diesel shops both said as new.if you google duratorq cracked piston you will find an abundance of them there.in the uk ford has owned up to the problem but only adress it as it happens.ford australia or land rover will not recognise the problem.

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Originally Posted by grinna1965

hi summiitt my 2.2 blew at 28000km after 20000km of hard towing
cracked number 4 piston dealer didnt want anything to do with it so we repaired at our work shop.got injectors tested by two reputable diesel shops both said as new.if you google duratorq cracked piston you will find an abundance of them there.in the uk ford has owned up to the problem but only adress it as it happens.ford australia or land rover will not recognise the problem.

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Hi Grinna,

what is the root cause if ford has owned up to it???

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i should have been a little clearer.ford havnt owned up to the problem they just acknoledge it but dont advertise it ass an issue.as for what i know & have reaserched they dont fix the problem they just supply new engines dirt cheap

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Originally Posted by grinna1965

i should have been a little clearer.ford havnt owned up to the problem they just acknoledge it but dont advertise it ass an issue.as for what i know & have reaserched they dont fix the problem they just supply new engines dirt cheap

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Just did some quick reading and it seems that the issue is not common but has happened to a few transit vans and is rare in the puma. As i thought it has happened to some of these transits due to a fueling issue and an oil pump issue.

The oil pump in the 2.2 pumas has been addressed, mine was replaced under warranty. The mapping on a transit is completely different to the puma......it has been said that the tranist map has a few hot spots which has been the cause of the pistons letting go.

My conclusion is that summits engine has more than likely let go due to a injector issue causing a fuel issue or that the oil pump has potentially failed. Lack of fuel and too much fuel will destroy pistons, there needs to be middle ground in the fuel map.

Either way im sure Sunmit will let us know when he finds out.

Keep in mind that engine failures in general are common to a lot of vehicles......parts are bound to fail here and there and its the law of statistics; the more of something there is out there the more likely you are to have a few small failures...

Remeber that there are a lot of tranist 2.2s that have seen over 500,000kms world wide and even more, so a few failures is no reason to wave the flag and rubbish an engine.

My 2 cents

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