Thread: A sad Day. Goodby Deefer.

Whether it's "just a turbo hose" constantly giving problems or not, it's not good enough and I sympathise with the poster.
The Puma I have has had numerous problems sorted under warranty but now I'm having to pay to get it fixed..... and pay and pay.
Apart from "upgrading" the useless axles the most recent example is 3 grand (plus cost of a 2nd hand compressor to replace the original a mobile bloke stuffed up) to get the aircon fixed (evap/condenser) and get it back with radio not working.....arial connection broken and the cradle for the radio missing....
Apparently they've ordered a new cradle but have no idea where the old one is!
Facia seems to be misaligned as dash light shines out by the rotary switch for the heating/cooling.
I only took it to the stealer because of the facia having to be removed and I thought, mistakenly, that they would be the ones who'd do it properly.
We know things go wrong with virtually all vehicles but why should it be up to us to provide expensive replacement axles etc because LR won't install decent parts to start?
Or live with the thought of the shaft between g/box and t/box breaking?
Why should we constantly payout to keep the bloody things running right?
I've reached the end of the road with Deafeners and Landies generally so after 3 Deafeners and 1 Disco it will be bye bye after Xmas.
Might go for a Prado as if my experience with our previous Prado with over 4 years of faultless ownership including plenty off road is anything to go by, we'll get just as much enjoyment although I'll be forever polishing scratches out.
AlanH.

Read enough forums and every make is rubbish!

Originally Posted by 4wheeler

Read enough forums and every make is rubbish!

Never a truer word was spoken.

Originally Posted by ATH

Whether it's "just a turbo hose" constantly giving problems or not, it's not good enough and I sympathise with the poster.
The Puma I have has had numerous problems sorted under warranty but now I'm having to pay to get it fixed..... and pay and pay.
Apart from "upgrading" the useless axles the most recent example is 3 grand (plus cost of a 2nd hand compressor to replace the original a mobile bloke stuffed up) to get the aircon fixed (evap/condenser) and get it back with radio not working.....arial connection broken and the cradle for the radio missing....
Apparently they've ordered a new cradle but have no idea where the old one is!
Facia seems to be misaligned as dash light shines out by the rotary switch for the heating/cooling.
I only took it to the stealer because of the facia having to be removed and I thought, mistakenly, that they would be the ones who'd do it properly.
We know things go wrong with virtually all vehicles but why should it be up to us to provide expensive replacement axles etc because LR won't install decent parts to start?
Or live with the thought of the shaft between g/box and t/box breaking?
Why should we constantly payout to keep the bloody things running right?
I've reached the end of the road with Deafeners and Landies generally so after 3 Deafeners and 1 Disco it will be bye bye after Xmas.
Might go for a Prado as if my experience with our previous Prado with over 4 years of faultless ownership including plenty off road is anything to go by, we'll get just as much enjoyment although I'll be forever polishing scratches out.
AlanH.

Yep,I'd go Prado,super reliable bullet proof vehicle,just don't visit Prado point,the first threads in the 120 section are all about faulty injectors, cracked pistons and blown motors,your better off with the 150 series,the first threads in that section are all about faulty injectors,cracked pistons and blown motors. . Pat

Set fire to it, no one should be allowed to buy such a lemon secondhand.

All you Puma owners don't know what chances you are taking. Get them into carsales ASAP.

Defender, more or less hand made, I 'd say very limited testing before going on sale. LR don't care about you $50k+ defer buyers when they are selling $100k to $200k Rangies.

You need a certain amount of savvy and perserverance as a mechanic to fix problems that are more than an oil change or part change.

I certainly recommend you get rid of your car James, you have been subjected to more than you can take.

Originally Posted by slug_burner

Set fire to it, no one should be allowed to buy such a lemon secondhand.

All you Puma owners don't know what chances you are taking. Get them into carsales ASAP.

Defender, more or less hand made, I 'd say very limited testing before going on sale. LR don't care about you $50k+ defer buyers when they are selling $100k to $200k Rangies.

You need a certain amount of savvy and perserverance as a mechanic to fix problems that are more than an oil change or part change.

I certainly recommend you get rid of your car James, you have been subjected to more than you can take.

What do you mean i dont know what chance im taking with my puma???

Everytime you take a breath you dont know if it will be your last one! Nothing in life guaranteed except death and taxes. Many puma owners have done hundreds of thousands of kms with no issues, they dont get on AULRO and say;"hey i just did 250,000kms in my puma with no issues"...

There will always be someone who is unlucky with something, whether its finacially, career, love or purchasing a car etc. Its part of life.

To claim that you need to get rid of your puma becuase it "might be" .........any other car "might be" crap.

If you want to be so pessimistic then sell your house and blow it all at the casino because "there might be" a zombie apocalypse one day!



The chances of me keeping a vehicle that is made for purpose and been

These are the types of threads that make me nervous for when my new Defender comes. Nuuuuuuuuu!

In my family we have my Dad's 300 tdi (300km+) no probs. A couple of defender utes that we've treated badly by farm hands but keep going (admittedly in the shed now but are 20 yrs old and only need a bit of work to get going again).

My 2015 has done 30,000 km without a fault so far. Might jinx myself but my aim is to go stock on this car for as long as I can. As a kid my memories are of us going everywhere and further than any Toyota. This car is with me for life. When I get some problems I will fix them because I know it will grow with me when we both have some ageing pains....