Thread: Gracie. DISASTER. Transmission Failure.

Have you driven it yet, is there less play?
Cheers
Chris

Good News, We got Gracie back today, all done, ULR appear to have a neat job, and there is much less slack between gearchanges, still a little, but I guess that comes from other parts of the transmission.
So, Thank You to ULR, Bernie, Stuart, & Rachel, for looking after Gracie,..also got the B Service done while she was there.
ULR have a fairly big service area, & they are FLAT OUT, cars EVERYWHERE, & I mean everywhere. After they'd repaired Gracie, they put her into a corner of the P.D. area, out of the way, with tyres in front of her!
All is good, Pickles.

There will always be ''play'' in the defender drivetrain,by the time the power goes through two gearbox's and three diffs there's a little slop there.Pickles,have you replaced the flanges?. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

There will always be ''play'' in the defender drivetrain,by the time the power goes through two gearbox's and three diffs there's a little slop there.Pickles,have you replaced the flanges?. Pat

No, haven't done anything at all. I've heard about "flanges"!!...I've already admitted to being mechanically hopeless, so what's the story on them?!
Thanks, Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

No, haven't done anything at all. I've heard about "flanges"!!...I've already admitted to being mechanically hopeless, so what's the story on them?!
Thanks, Pickles.

Aulro is notorious for BS advice and opinions.....wasnt me....so you have to consider modifications and do some serious research before considering whether or not they should be done.

Anyway Pat is 100% right and just trust me that changing to HD flanges is a cheap and probably the best mod you can do to your puma. Adding HD flanges and converting to oil lubed axels is a no brainer. I also found that my so called "rear diff" backlash magically dissappeared.

Look at:

Ashcroft Transmissions

Postage was only an extra 6GBP to ship 2 pair with the MT82 output shaft.

Richard

Picked up my Defender today after warranty repairs.

The dealer removed the transfer case and inspected the adaptor shaft as I requested since the gearbox was coming out anyway. The dealer stated that the splines were lubricated but not sufficient for long term longevity. They lubricated the splines with the required grease. At 22,000km there was no wear apparently. Early 2013 Defender

Very happy my the local dealer service as well. Given gearbox out, front axle seals and other jobs done, everything looks as it should, nothing missing and everything tight. Certainly beats the time a 4x4 was returned to me (not a Landrover) with 4 of 10 gearbox bolts done to slightly better than finger tight and the rest just finger tight in the bolt holes!

It is sad to walk into a dealer or drive past one and not see any new Defenders on the lot.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

No, haven't done anything at all. I've heard about "flanges"!!...I've already admitted to being mechanically hopeless, so what's the story on them?!
Thanks, Pickles.

The spline where the drive axles go into the flanges on the outside of the wheel hubs can be subject to exactly the same sort of wear as with the coupling between the gearbox and transfer case if there is no lubrication.

But they are easier and cheaper to fix and dead easy to see if there is a problem - remove the hubcap - if the spline is slightly oily, no problem. If there is no signs of oil or grease - you may have a problem. If there are signs of rust - alarm bells.

You can, as a preventive measure, periodically lubricate them, or change the hub lubrication to oil instead of grease, which also is likely to guarantee against bearing failure, or fit aftermarket axles and flanges, or all of the above.

(The hubs were originally oil lubricated, but changed to grease some time this century I believe to prevent oil leaks. May have done that, but flange and bearing failures have become much more common. On my 1986 110, now approaching 600,000km, I have replaced one flange, and it still has all the original wheel bearings. Lost count of how many seals I have replaced!)

John