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    Gracie. DISASTER. Transmission Failure.

    After being the love of our lives, and having been treated as such for just over two years & 41000Ks, Gracie came to a stop today, on a Highway, 200ks from home, with a TOTAL loss of drive.
    NO drive in any gear, just a whirring rattling noise from the area of the transmission, with absolutely no forward motion.
    LandRover Assist took 3hrs to get to us,..sitting in the hot sun, finally got her back to ULR, and thanks to Brett & the Service guys from ULR for waiting for us after hours. Thanks Guys.
    So, any Defender experts, any idea what's happened?
    Pickles.

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    Several possibilities (ignoring the possibility it was just knocked out of gear in the transfer case):-

    1. Stripped axle flange spline, probably rear.

    2. Broken centre diff

    3. Stripped spline on the output gear/shaft of the main gearbox.

    4. Broken clutch plate

    For 1 and 2, engaging the centre diff lock would have got you going. 1. is a cheap and quick fix, the others neither cheap nor quick, although 3 is probably the most expensive.

    Unlikely, but could also possibly be a broken CV joint in the front swivels, which the centre diff lock would have got you going as well. There are also a few other pretty unlikely possibilities.

    1. is the most likely, in my view.

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    Probably output shaft for sure,another LR issue that should have been sorted

    Hope they do the right thing and get it sorted.

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    Very bad luck Pickles.
    Could be the adaptor shaft between the gearbox and the transfer case. A few have failed at this distance as many were not lubricated. That results in total loss of drive, including centre diff lock use. Warranty I assume.

    My Defender is at the dealer having the main seal replaced and the adaptor shaft checked for lubricant while they are at it.

    Also replacing the front axle seals as grease is contaminating the diff oil. Hmm, this is what I suggested might be the problem when at the last service (4000km ago), they said the front diff oil was contaminated and needed replacing. What more can you do!

    Hope you get it sorted soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4wheeler View Post
    Very bad luck Pickles.
    Could be the adaptor shaft between the gearbox and the transfer case. A few have failed at this distance as many were not lubricated. That results in total loss of drive, including centre diff lock use. Warranty I assume.

    My Defender is at the dealer having the main seal replaced and the adaptor shaft checked for lubricant while they are at it.

    Also replacing the front axle seals as grease is contaminating the diff oil. Hmm, this is what I suggested might be the problem when at the last service (4000km ago), they said the front diff oil was contaminated and needed replacing. What more can you do!

    Hope you get it sorted soon.
    Thank You.
    This "lack of lubrication" issue?...I've heard of it, but never thought I'd experience anything like that because of the "gentlest" respectful way we drive her.
    The vehicle's done 41000ks, last serviced by Dealer at 24000ks,....wouldn't they have "lubricated" it?...I am not mechanically minded!
    Thanks, Pickles.

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    Really sorry to hear this mate, you must be gutted. I hope LR gives you a quick and long lasting fix as soon as possible.

    Cheers,
    Ant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickles2 View Post
    Thank You.
    This "lack of lubrication" issue?...I've heard of it, but never thought I'd experience anything like that because of the "gentlest" respectful way we drive her.
    The vehicle's done 41000ks, last serviced by Dealer at 24000ks,....wouldn't they have "lubricated" it?...I am not mechanically minded!
    Thanks, Pickles.
    Not unless they're pulling the gearbox out at services I'd imagine.
    There's a solution offered by Ashcroft, if it turns out to be your issue I'd be leaning on them heavily to utilise the Ashcroft fix.
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    One way of eliminating axles & diffs is select cdl if it moves my money would be on a drive flange or stripped splines on a axle

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Probably output shaft for sure,another LR issue that should have been sorted

    Hope they do the right thing and get it sorted.
    That'd be my pick too, that spud shaft has caught quite a few people out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Several possibilities (ignoring the possibility it was just knocked out of gear in the transfer case):- 1. Stripped axle flange spline, probably rear. 2. Broken centre diff 3. Stripped spline on the output gear/shaft of the main gearbox. 4. Broken clutch plate For 1 and 2, engaging the centre diff lock would have got you going. 1. is a cheap and quick fix, the others neither cheap nor quick, although 3 is probably the most expensive. Unlikely, but could also possibly be a broken CV joint in the front swivels, which the centre diff lock would have got you going as well. There are also a few other pretty unlikely possibilities. 1. is the most likely, in my view. John
    I'm betting option 3.

    I experienced the same sound 6 mths ago in the L322.

    At least it's a warranty job.
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