Thread: Gracie. DISASTER. Transmission Failure.

Originally Posted by cafe latte

Anyone have any pics of doing this job or how hard it is?
Does the Ashcroft solution fix all the worn parts or will the gearbox main shaft have to be replaced too?
Cheers
Chris

The job is basically removing the transfer case. Once it is out, you'll be able to pull the spud shaft out, it'll look like this (ignore the lines, was used in another thread).



The socket on the end of the mainshaft looks like this.



The socket is removable, so no need to replace the mainshaft if the interface is worn. Unless the spline on the mainshaft is also worn, I guess.



In this next photo you'll see what I guess is the factory fix, the interface is packed with grease and that plastic cover thing holds over the spud shaft and onto the socket to keep the grease in. A rubber boot would be better.

Originally Posted by cafe latte

Is that even possible? I cant imagine how you would even get to the part without a lot of dismantling.
Chris

You might be right, I'm probably confusing it with the actual LR "fix", which I found and is SSM71952 but I was sure I saw something about it being addressed during service as well. As I recall it was a "try and squirt some grease down there" type thing - which is why I called it a potluck fix! Wish I could find it but there's a good chance I imagined it

Originally Posted by Dervish

The job is basically removing the transfer case. Once it is out, you'll be able to pull the spud shaft out, it'll look like this (ignore the lines, was used in another thread).



The socket on the end of the mainshaft looks like this.



The socket is removable, so no need to replace the mainshaft if the interface is worn. Unless the spline on the mainshaft is also worn, I guess.



In this next photo you'll see what I guess is the factory fix, the interface is packed with grease and that plastic cover thing holds over the spud shaft and onto the socket to keep the grease in. A rubber boot would be better.

Great post it explains it perfectly
Good to here you can change the whole thing without messing with the main shaft. I have rebuilt a couple of gearboxes including a new main shaft on a Toyota and it was a pain in the butt. I hope I can get the dealer to do this as mine has slop, but at least I know it is not that hard now. Thing is it should not happen!!
Chris

A little thread drift, how are you blokes finding the shift quality on the MT82 ?

Just started a new job this week and my car is a near new BT50 with the 3.2 and the MT82 behind it.
I'm finding the 'box clunky and easy to beat the synchros in certain gears, and I'm shifting gently, not rushing the changes at all.
Nice short throw and a narrow gate, but an awful change IMO.
Datsun/Nissan 'boxes from the seventies/eighties put it to shame.

The 3.2 throttle response is strange (bloody fly by wire throttles) but it's ballsy and sounds bloody brilliant from inside the cab.

Not sure how it would go off road but trying to work out if the company would miss the engine if it found it's way into the Deefer.

Originally Posted by rick130

A little thread drift, how are you blokes finding the shift quality on the MT82 ?

Just started a new job this week and my car is a near new BT50 with the 3.2 and the MT82 behind it.
I'm finding the 'box clunky and easy to beat the synchros in certain gears, and I'm shifting gently, not rushing the changes at all.
Nice short throw and a narrow gate, but an awful change IMO.
Datsun/Nissan 'boxes from the seventies/eighties put it to shame.

The 3.2 throttle response is strange (bloody fly by wire throttles) but it's ballsy and sounds bloody brilliant from inside the cab.

Not sure how it would go off road but trying to work out if the company would miss the engine if it found it's way into the Deefer.

I love my Defender to bits, but I hate with a passion the clunky shift. It is a good box and you find the gears easily, but I is some situations it is almost impossible not to clunk the change, you almost give yourself a pat on the back when you dont clunk it.
Chris

dfendr:...G'Day Peter.
Mate, I reckon the shift in your Adventure is beautiful, very little if any clunking/backlash,...you've got a good one.
Regretfully We can't drive Gracie tomorrow, but I've now "recovered" enough to go without her, so, we'll see you at the destination, wherever that is?
Martin.

Hi all,
my 14 110 has spent months in the dealership in warranty re the transfer case so wonder if anyone on here has had the same issues? Car has had clunks on gear changes almost since new (now done 50K kms) so various dealers have replaced three sets of axles, flanges, A arm ball joint, rear diff tightened, jack shaft replaced early on and now just had TNS case rebuilt here in Sydney--BUT now it keeps leaking oil from between the gearbox and TNS--in fact now on third seal so waiting to hear if fixed or not--only drive it about 40 kms not hundreds just 40 and it pours oil out again. Now I have no complaint re the dealer or Rover Assist (have now got a free loan car--a Jag too!) until fixed but someone must know what is happening--could it be this misalignment for the shafts that is causing the issues--when it went in for transfer case rebuild it was not leaking any oil but is since work performed--now a few times!Should the gearbox also be rebuilt as if the transfer case is now perfect could it be out of sinc with the gearbox somehow Any ideas welcomed.

I have some more queries to add to this thread - but first some background.


The spline on the centre shaft on my 2013 130DC stripped at 47K.
I was of the view that the backlash was getting worse - and had it noted as an issue on the 40K service which took place at the same time as the oil pump recall was done. Expert opinion at the time was that there was no problem but 7K later there was a trip back to the dealer on the back of a truck.
I had backed my own judgement and ordered and received the Ashcroft replacement shaft prior to the spline stripping - so this went down and was installed as the replacement. All backlash removed in one go.
But there were delays in the changeover - including a puller being broken trying to remove some component from the gearbox. Was told this had to be done whenever the centre shaft fails to make sure there was no problem within the box.
And now - about 3K later - there is an oil leak from the back of the gearbox.


Can anyone fill in some detail as to what might be going on here?


Thks.