Defenders on "Car Sales."

**Zeros** · 5th March 2018, 02:11 PM

...also this:

"In the 130-year history of the automobile, there is only one car that can be associated with both pig farmers and Queen Elizabeth. Forget Volkswagen, the Land Rover Defender is the true “people’s car.” With pragmatic sensibilities and no-nonsense styling that appeals to pretty much everyone, everywhere, the Defender can be found right the way from Sunset Strip to your local gravel pit.
If you want to buy one today, you can choose to pay almost $100,000 for the special “Autobiography” edition, or you can grab a secondhand one for as little as four or five thousand bucks. Really, this is a club that anyone can afford to join."

And while increasingly the second hand hand ones are costing more than $5K, it may well be that the price simply continues to rise, especially for immaculate examples.

"The original Range Rover was designed in an attempt to tame the Defender into something more civilised."

We are all no doubt guilty of taking the iconic nature of Series/Defenders for granted, but we should all be very clear that nothing else like it is ever going to come along again. Current prices reflect that. They also reflect the fact that the only comparable vehicles on the market (G Professional & Toyota 76) cost significantly more than Defender ever did.

Not everyone wants 'something more civilised', despite Land Rover switching their market focus.

**Jake93** · 5th March 2018, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mittsy

We've taken a wrong turn

We've taken a wrong turn

I’d love to know what makes this clown think he can buy this 110 3 months ago For 22k and try and sell it for 36k I really hope some poor burger doesn’t pay that for it

Pretty much on par with this bloke and his 2012 for 72 grand.. We've taken a wrong turn like did he not even look at what others were listed for? A 2013 with leather and a sunroof winch and some extra kit just sold for 46 so this one that’s basic AF has got Buckley’s chance for that sort of money lol

**Zeros** · 5th March 2018, 08:32 PM

Most things we buy are potentially cheaper somewhere else. You don't have to buy it if you think it's too expensive. ...He probably won't sell it for that, but maybe the other one is actually under priced? Normally someone under-selling would be seen as the numpty. Intriguing.

Why so surprised? The growth capitalist free market system encourages people to charge as much as they can. Where you draw the line is up to you. It applies to pretty much everything.

**Zeros** · 6th March 2018, 07:44 AM

...I just did a quick scan of carsales. Most Defender prices are on par, if slightly under prices for used Landcruiser 76. There are a few silly prices being tried on, but on the whole there are plenty of reasonably priced Defenders there IMO. Around $40k with 100,000km on the clock looks pretty fair to me.

**Zeros** · 6th March 2018, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Zeros

...I just did a quick scan of carsales. Most Defender prices are on par, if slightly under prices for used Landcruiser 76. There are a few silly prices being tried on, but on the whole there are plenty of reasonably priced Defenders there IMO. Around $40k with 100,000km on the clock looks pretty fair to me.

...PS: Get one while you can.

**Pickles2** · 6th March 2018, 09:43 AM

Definitely a bit of variation in pricing isn't there?
In deference to the new owner, I ain't going to disclose the price, but will say that we received slightly more than what we paid new from ULR, for our very heavily optioned 2013 90 with 60Ks, but in mint, probably as good as new condition, but there were some spares with the sale, so including the cost of them, we got slightly less.
Pickles.

**Andrew86** · 6th March 2018, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jake93

A 2013 with leather and a sunroof winch and some extra kit just sold for 46 so this one that’s basic AF

Looking at the prices people pay for five year old Defenders makes me scared to take my 2016 out of the garage. It'll probably be a six figure car soon!

**Zeros** · 6th March 2018, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Andrew86

Looking at the prices people pay for five year old Defenders makes me scared to take my 2016 out of the garage. It'll probably be a six figure car soon!

I know! when did it become the new normal that a work vehicle costs $80-$100K? It's partly the dual cab ute market growing so fast into the $50K+ segment of the market. They are essentially big cars, rather than small trucks. Pushing the Defender/70 Series/G-Professional into the higher priced low volume specialty bracket.
...But that's what's happening!

**Tins** · 6th March 2018, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by ozscott

The 130's I see value in...the 110's not so much...the 90 not at all.

Cheers

A 90 would be useless for what I want, love 'em as I do. A 110 would be OK, Mulgo'd up. The 130 would be almost perfection ( Defender issues aside ). For me it's all grist for the mill, as I'm not yet in a position to buy.

**Tins** · 6th March 2018, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jake93

Pretty much on par with this bloke and his 2012 for 72 grand.. We've taken a wrong turn like did he not even look at what others were listed for? A 2013 with leather and a sunroof winch and some extra kit just sold for 46 so this one that’s basic AF has got Buckley’s chance for that sort of money lol

Look at it this way: he may just get it. What does that do to the market? What does that say for the punters? Perhaps Defenders ARE going to become collector's items.

I mean.... We've taken a wrong turn

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