Defenders on "Car Sales."

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Originally Posted by Geary

I'm curious at your view on the price. That car is 7 years old and 140k kms and asking new price which although relative to the others seems reasonable, in a normal world I wouldn't call it reasonable. Understand that it has a long list of nice bits but my experience has generally been that aftermarket parts help sell but don't really help price.

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The way I see it is as follows:
Near new standard 110s are going for around 70k as an average on carsales. A new 79 series is more than that and a patrol around the same money. Now If im in the market for a defender im more than likely interested in touring and 4wding (this is my view and opinion).
Now 70k on a standard vehicle means that by the time i build the vehicle the way i want i would have almost spent 90 to 100k.
The 110 ive referenced (and i know what the parts are worth) is 56k ready to go. Then theres the fact that its done 139000kms. Its not many kms at all for a diesel and good chance any potential issues have been ironed/sorted out. My 2013 limited edition 110 cost 62500 and ive spent around 15-20k building it up......had i seen an add similar to this one before i bought my puma i would have seriously considered it. There's a lot of value.......obviously all this would require a thorough inspection, test drive etc...

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Theres a couple of excellent looking rigs on carsales at the moment. One has full ashcroft running gear and is fully kitted out....owner is asking 56k. Seems reasonable for the amonunt of money spent on it:
http://carsales.mobi/cars/details/20...SSE-AD-4030168

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I get what your saying about cost to build but its had its wheel arches butchered. That's 10k off right there imo. I think 45k is closer to reasonable if looking for a sale.

But I'm guessing seller in no rush to sell and if there is a buyer who thinks it's the perfect touring set up for them, it could be worth it. They are unlikely to find a >= 2009 and build it up to same spec for less than 56k.

Personally I'd rather buy a cleaner example and spend the extra++ building it to my own spec. If looking around that age I'd be more interested in this one for touring value/potential - http://carsales.mobi/cars/details/20...SSE-AD-4013246

Checked out Carsales today & there's more Defenders on there than ever,,..115 as at today.
And pricing is becoming even more "ridiculous",...two I picked out today,...a Keswick 90 with 410 klms on the clock,...$73K!!!, and a 7000klm 90 for,.....$80K!!!.....both of which are over Adventure pricing!!
Not saying they're selling though, there's plenty on there that I'm familiar with,.....been on there for a while,......a long while!
Pickles.

Yes prices are somewhat inflated it seems but people are paying it without question.
If people are paying then that's what they are selling for, rather simple really.
Just over a few months after I bought my 130 new in late 2015 My salesman called and said he had someone who was after a 130 the same specs as mine and was also happy to pay nearly 14k more than what I purchased the car for. No questions asked whatsoever except they made the offer and really wanted it. I politely declined although it does seem rather tempting doesn't it.....
We have all Seen what the US prices are doing and I believe in the very near future that ours could and possibly will head in the same direction.

There was a a guy at the tyre fitters who took a shine to my 90. Asked me how much I would be willing to sell for. I said not for sale, to which he replied 'everything's got a price'.

I reckon it would take 100k to get me to start thinking about it. And that's absurd for a 1989 tdi! But I don't want to sell.

At the moment you have opportunist's who saw the demand and forthcoming demise. But when they are all snapped up by enthusiasts, and the majority owned by those who do not want to sell, high prices could persist.

Beckham was papped in his 90 in London just recently...Imagine if demand continues to rise!

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Originally Posted by connormotorsport

Yes prices are somewhat inflated it seems but people are paying it without question.
If people are paying then that's what they are selling for, rather simple really.
Just over a few months after I bought my 130 new in late 2015 My salesman called and said he had someone who was after a 130 the same specs as mine and was also happy to pay nearly 14k more than what I purchased the car for. No questions asked whatsoever except they made the offer and really wanted it. I politely declined although it does seem rather tempting doesn't it.....
We have all Seen what the US prices are doing and I believe in the very near future that ours could and possibly will head in the same direction.

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I paid 57k for mine leather seats and other extras. I dont care if the price goes up to 100k nobody is getting mine.
Chris

for that price, you could of got a good car :p

I actually think its calming down, especially in the used/private sale market.

As I'm in the market for a 90 and trying to get my head around whats selling for what, I have all of the 90's saved. So this week:

A couple of the private sale 90's have been dropped in price by $3-5k.

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1x private sale 2015 90 (15000km) that was listed for $53900, I presume it sold for 50-53k range.

1x 2016 Adventure 90 (500km) was listed for $74k presume it sold near to $70 but who knows.

Daz, I agree, & I've said, that some prices are massively inflated, because they are,....... well, I "presume" they are!!!
But who knows?.....However, there is no doubt that there are some ridiculous prices out there, and some are definitely not selling,.......yet?
Will prices go up or down?
Me?....I think they will trend downwards.
Pickles.

There is a 2014 110 in Moorooka(Brisbane)for sale for $65k.(Gummtree)
It has heaps of extras,around $30k worth.

Has definitely been sold,is immaculate.

Probably not a greatly inflated price,and a good buy.No wonder it sold.The others will just sit around.

You can't compare the USA second hand market for Defenders to ours,as they have not been available there for years.