Defenders on "Car Sales."

**defmec** · 21st April 2016, 03:58 PM

I bought a 2002 130 td5 with 70 000ks for $27 000 good condition 2 years ago. At the time i was feeling that i payed too much. Now i have stopped driving it to work as i don't want to clock up the ks because of its value. Realestate is not worth what people pay for it in Australia. So why should defenders be any different. Supply and demand

**manic** · 21st April 2016, 04:40 PM

For Pete's sake remember what you bought it for. Use them and abuse them! Defenders when they get tired are rebuilt on galvanised chassis, completely overhauled good as new so don't worry about the kms. What's the point of buying a td5 for 20+ grand and then selling it for around same value 5 years later having not used it. Unless you have a limited edition and seriously bubble wrapping it for dedicated investment you are just wasting time. As they say: One life, live it.

**steane** · 21st April 2016, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by manic

Unless you have a limited edition and seriously bubble wrapping it for dedicated investment you are just wasting time.

I think that would be a waste of time as well to be honest.

**The ho har's** · 21st April 2016, 04:58 PM

We sort of washed our 130 today, first time since last year after driving to Vic, it is sort of shiny

I think the value has gone up 10 fold now

Mrs hh

Is Vic There · 21st April 2016, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by steane

I think that would be a waste of time as well to be honest.

Only time will tell, who knows what they'll be worth in say five years.
I can only go on my experience with motorbikes, but any of the "cool" two strokes sold in the 70's and 80's are worth stupid money these days.
Look at M1 & 2 Escorts and see if you can buy a decent RS1600 or RS2000 for under $40,000, have a look at the prices in the UK, madness.

MrLandy · 21st April 2016, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Is Vic There

Only time will tell, who knows what they'll be worth in say five years.
I can only go on my experience with motorbikes, but any of the "cool" two strokes sold in the 70's and 80's are worth stupid money these days.
Look at M1 & 2 Escorts and see if you can buy a decent RS1600 or RS2000 for under $40,000, have a look at the prices in the UK, madness.

Ah, so you are keeping your Adventure 90 as an investment?

My late 2014 shiny Indus Silver 110 has already done 50,000km. It's first 5,000km was straight up the Strezlecki Track to Innamincka and Coongie Lakes. No molly coddling here. 'Adventure' that's what Defenders are built for, not museums of the third age!

**noyakfat** · 21st April 2016, 06:20 PM

I reckon just use it for its intended purpose, but look after it well as you go. Service regularly, fix little things before they become big things, carefully consider off-road options and don't just blast full noise through an obstacle and give it a bit of a clean once in a while

Is Vic There · 21st April 2016, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by MrLandy

Ah, so you are keeping your Adventure 90 as an investment?

My late 2014 shiny Indus Silver 110 has already done 50,000km. It's first 5,000km was straight up the Strezlecki Track to Innamincka and Coongie Lakes. No molly coddling here. 'Adventure' that's what Defenders are built for, not museums of the third age!

Haha, don't know, might be might not! Good for you for taking your up the Strezlecki track, hope you had a good time, it is your car after all and you can do what you want with it.

Might change the blanket on my museum piece at the weekend, I'll let you know what colour I wrap her with lol!

Is Vic There · 21st April 2016, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by MrLandy

No molly coddling here

Plenty here lol

Just for you MrLandy!

**steane** · 21st April 2016, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Is Vic There

Only time will tell, who knows what they'll be worth in say five years.
I can only go on my experience with motorbikes, but any of the "cool" two strokes sold in the 70's and 80's are worth stupid money these days.
Look at M1 & 2 Escorts and see if you can buy a decent RS1600 or RS2000 for under $40,000, have a look at the prices in the UK, madness.

I agree, that it is possible that a Defender will be worth quite a bit when it is nearly 50 years old, or it could be worth nothing, depending on where the automotive world is then. The landscape is going to be very different and quite what will become of fossil fuel burning non-autonomous vehicles will be very interesting.

A Defender would make an excellent garden ornament but you wouldn't want to pay too much for one if that's it's only possible use.

I personally don't see the last LE Defenders as being special enough to command a serious premium, although I'm sure they will command a premium of some sort. I actually think they were a missed opportunity by LR. They could have been seriously cool, with improved engine performance, and accessories like serious barwork, winches, Koni or Bilstein suspension, a sizable bespoke LE hunting knife, a gun rack for the Sako Bavarian, a Sako Bavarian, and a fake beard for the driver made from genuine Silverback pubic hair.

A bit of Adventure added to the 'Adventure'.

Prices look silly now but I think people forget that what you see on Carsales is asking prices, not selling prices. People can ask whatever they want. I saw a single cab Defender ute being offered for $60k+ recently. You'd have to be cashed-up, rather drunk and vertically challenged to actually buy it and live with it. Ad said it was real rare...but only because no-one ever wanted to buy one.

I could be wrong though. Often I am

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