Best fuel for Puma 2.2

**rangieman** · 5th April 2016, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by 1nando

I manage to get 620kms minimum out of every full tank of BP fuel. I also have a rear draw system, fridge, dual battery and 30kg tool kit in the car at all times and on top of that it has a front mounted cooler, decat, free flowing exhaust, snorkel and bruce davis tune putting out around 170hp and 450nm....i cant get the same kms out of shell or caltex. My 2 cents

And this mighy sound stupid but i swear that ever since i changed the flanges to HD units and upgraded to oil fed lubrication that the economy went up a tiny bit further.....might be my imagination though:what:

Did you fit a Hiclone as well which would account for you bum in seat dyno findings

**1nando** · 5th April 2016, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by rangieman

Did you fit a Hiclone as well which would account for you bum in seat dyno findings

Maybe go on Bruce's site and have a look for yourself. Bruce uses Alive tuning software out of the UK, they quote the same figures for less mods than what i have. Maybe you should do some research and remove your "bum from your mouth" 😉

stewie110 · 5th April 2016, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by rangieman

Did you fit a Hiclone as well which would account for you bum in seat dyno findings

Do they actually work?

**Toxic_Avenger** · 5th April 2016, 07:47 PM

Are we talking Australian bum dynos or US bum dynos?
The US dynos tend to read a little on the high side.

**Blknight.aus** · 5th April 2016, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by cafe latte

Petrol maybe, diesel much less and the huge tanks under ground I dont think it will make much difference especially in Innisfail where it is warm all the time. Maybe if you lived where it was freezing at night you might get more fuel in the morning, but filling up after a supermarket trip (so mid morning at the earliest) in Innisfail I doubt temperature will make a significant difference so it is the pump not temperature.
Chris

Temp still applies to diesel, especially in places that are high turn over low volume tanks. if you see a tanker coming in every 2-3 days dropping diesel odds are you're getting above delivery calibration temp diesel.

**1nando** · 5th April 2016, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Toxic_Avenger

Are we talking Australian bum dynos or US bum dynos?
The US dynos tend to read a little on the high side.

Im quoting the figures that both Alive tuning and Bruce quote. These figures are quoted without exhaust mods, and i also have a decat, egr closed and rear muffler removed. I cant stand when someone who hasnt had any perosnal experience with the same engine and mods imply that something is bs without justifying any first hand experience or evidence to the contrary...

The link is the BAS version which is pretty mich the same....however this was achieved with less mods than i have.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic18631.html

**ramblingboy42** · 5th April 2016, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by 1nando

Im quoting the figures that both Alive tuning and Bruce quote. These figures are quoted without exhaust mods, and i also have a decat, egr closed and rear muffler removed. I cant stand when someone who hasnt had any perosnal experience with the same engine and mods imply that something is bs without justifying any first hand experience or evidence to the contrary...

I'm interested why you quote horespower and then quote nm....why not quote lbs.ft for torque if you're going to quote horespower.

How many kilowatts are you producing? that is the Australian unit of measure.

My 2.2 produces 121kw or so I'm told.

**1nando** · 5th April 2016, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I'm interested why you quote horespower and then quote nm....why not quote lbs.ft for torque if you're going to quote horespower.

How many kilowatts are you producing? that is the Australian unit of measure.

My 2.2 produces 121kw or so I'm told.

Ever since my drag racing days ive always talked hp, its also the figure i was quoted and researched extensively before investing my hard earned.
121kw is roughly 162hp...what mods do you have?

**ramblingboy42** · 5th April 2016, 08:22 PM

none...no mods...I made a small error. I was told it makes 119kw/385nm standard.

it's a puma in a ranger , supposed to be same engine outputs according to engine tuners.

Maptec have offered me an easy 145kw/430nm with no mods. I have de-egr and open exhaust so should perhaps see better figures. normal driving fuel predicts up to 15% improvement.

sorry to take the thread a bit off track.

**1nando** · 5th April 2016, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

none...no mods...I made a small error. I was told it makes 119kw/385nm standard.

it's a puma in a ranger , supposed to be same engine outputs according to engine tuners.

Maptec have offered me an easy 145kw/430nm with no mods. I have de-egr and open exhaust so should perhaps see better figures. normal driving fuel predicts up to 15% improvement.

sorry to take the thread a bit off track.

The cooler makes a good difference and is a smart long term investment for engine life.

Back to the thread. Heat is always a factor, whether its the heat of the fuel itself or the atmospheric temperature. Both of these affect intake temps which in turn affect combustion. The denser the charged air is into the inlet the greater the "bang for your buck". Thats why as an example drag cars run nos and alcohol, they burn much cooler and produce enormous amouts more power.
Something as simple as having a snorkle or no snorkle will affect intake temps hence affecting power which in turn affects engine efficiency.

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