Thread: Best fuel for Puma 2.2

If you doubt what the OP has said...

I'm sure 300tdi owners will tell you, BP diesel (in metro areas) gives better fuel consumption. I noticed this for many years with my Disco 1 300tdi.

Up North (W.A) you will get a noticeable decrease in fuel economy regardless of source.

Regards
Daz

P.S I also have always filled my tanks to full.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

...no precise stats, other than many 500-600km full tank long haul tests over the past three months. My judgement is based on the quality/ feel of the drive with different brand diesels. BP is clearly the best in terms of smoothness, less engine clatter, more power and also better fuel economy.

Bum dyno's are notoriously accurate - at least mine is (tm)

But seriously... I log every km and every litre of fuel since taking delivery of my 2.2 TDCi nearly 3yrs ago. So I got data.

But lets ignore that data because my bum dyno tells me that it doesn't matter what brand of fuel I buy from what servo - my vehicle is like me: Some days its all smooth sailing and rainbow unicorns. Very next day it can be noticably disjointed and hard work in the morning, but after lunch its back to smooth sailing. (seriously).

I reckon that the ECU can get a bit out of kilter. Is it some occasional corrupted memory (reset when it likes, after a longish lunch break?), or is it the inputs the ECU relies on not always giving good data?

(Note: Sometimes its good in the morning and grumpy in the arvo. So no identifiable pattern there)

Or is it just me? My bum dyno not as reliable as I think? Is it when I am in a positive frame of mind and drive assertively - it all comes together nicely?

I surely don't know.

fuel temp also counts.

when fuel was first going through $1 a litre i always got better economy out of fuel that i picked up first thing in the morning before the tankers dumped the fuel in compared to fuel picked up.that afternoon.

while the following numbers are made up to be indicative only they show the point

1kg of fuel at 15 deg c might be equal to .95l delivered from the pump whereas the same fuel delivered at 30 degrees might be 1.05l delivered. thats 10% in your useable weight of fuel (this in part is why aviation fuel is measured by weight). of you bought your fuel by the litre hot, let it cool and you could in theory add another 10 l of cold fuel per 100l of got fuel youd poured in and you wouldnt have even moved the vehicle or started the test.

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Originally Posted by cafe latte

Yet the test I did was valid and the amount of fuel I received for the 20 liters I paid for varied a significant amount. Clearly some pumps are not correctly calibrated or the servo can alter the calibration one or the other must be true or I would have received exactly 20 liters at every servo and I didnt.

Chris

Temperature has a significant bearing on fuel volume.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Temperature has a significant bearing on fuel volume.

And throw in differing ambient temps for any given time and day and you have so many variables that i really doubt one fuel is any better than another.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

I always try to to fill with Ultimate. If I can't get that, then I'll look for Caltex or Shell,....not many Mobil sites, but they'll do too. Can't notice any difference.
But, I always go for the "Majors".
Pickles.

I didn't realise there was an "Ultimate" diesel with BP! I've used the PLP before. I must admit My default is Shell, but I'll lookout for BP now. Is it true that both ULP/PLP and Diesel in Australia are inferior fuels compared to what's available in Europe?

Originally Posted by Tombie

Temperature has a significant bearing on fuel volume.

Petrol maybe, diesel much less and the huge tanks under ground I dont think it will make much difference especially in Innisfail where it is warm all the time. Maybe if you lived where it was freezing at night you might get more fuel in the morning, but filling up after a supermarket trip (so mid morning at the earliest) in Innisfail I doubt temperature will make a significant difference so it is the pump not temperature.
Chris

I manage to get 620kms minimum out of every full tank of BP fuel. I also have a rear draw system, fridge, dual battery and 30kg tool kit in the car at all times and on top of that it has a front mounted cooler, decat, free flowing exhaust, snorkel and bruce davis tune putting out around 170hp and 450nm....i cant get the same kms out of shell or caltex. My 2 cents

And this mighy sound stupid but i swear that ever since i changed the flanges to HD units and upgraded to oil fed lubrication that the economy went up a tiny bit further.....might be my imagination though:what: