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Thread: The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

  1. #231
    MrLandy Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    I don't know about that. I think the Defender was a kind of halo car for LR. It never mattered that it sold in small numbers cos it was a branding exercise, showing the brand's roots. There's no other reason they'd have persevered with it so long.
    icons sometimes have halo's, yes. But it's what makes them icons that counts, not the posthumous halo effect.

  2. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by tact View Post
    Ok ooook. But what if to resurrect the "old" Defender he has to modernize it a little? You know, airbags, crumple zones, fix a few leaks, pass some design/safety standards - That kinda thing. The article mentioned interest in IP, not so much about tools and dies.... Maybe he thinks like you - that the "new" defender (by Land Rover) won't cut the mustard and maybe he can do it right.

    Damn that glass is half full - again!
    I doubt it.

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    The new Defender will need to be a better vehicle than say a povo pack GX Prado which has more nice stuff than the last Defender. Stuff like air bags, crumple zone, reversing camera, auto. It won't go as good off road in some places, but most of that market don't go those places.

    JLR will need to differentiate the new Defender in terms of the product and value with stuff like EAS, TR and broad ratio single range box. Toyota's version of TR isn't included until the $80k Kakadu version. Although Ford's version is in a $50k Everest.

    It's interesting stuff. Given we are only now starting to get glimpses of the final D5, the final Defender will be a while off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    icons sometimes have halo's, yes. But it's what makes them icons that counts, not the posthumous halo effect.
    Confucius say what?
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    I hope the new Defender is completely different to the old design, the HD ute market already proves that customers will pay $60-$130k for a well designed, functional, capable and practical vehicle. I hope LR address the leaking doors, small cabs, pathetic fuel capacity and very average engine power. Don't get me wrong, I love my defenders, but it's time to completely re-write the blueprint if they want to sell volume. If they could blend a Unimog, with an F350 in a slightly bigger defender they would sell plenty..

  6. #236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    I hope the new Defender is completely different to the old design, the HD ute market already proves that customers will pay $60-$130k for a well designed, functional, capable and practical vehicle. I hope LR address the leaking doors, small cabs, pathetic fuel capacity and very average engine power. Don't get me wrong, I love my defenders, but it's time to completely re-write the blueprint if they want to sell volume. If they could blend a Unimog, with an F350 in a slightly bigger defender they would sell plenty..
    Really? Sounds like an ugly mutant yank tank to me Summiitt! Not a Defender.

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    There is a very good reason that F-trucks were the 3rd highest selling vehicle in the world for 2015..beaten only by VW polo and Toyota Corolla..

  8. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLandy View Post
    I disagree with the anti-tardis argument. Mine are absolutely Tardis! Friends can't believe how much I can fit in. And park next to a Tojo Troopy and they don't look so big. Much smaller, shorter and way easier to park than all current dualcab utes on the market! I also really like the snug driving position and visibility it affords. Ok I'll pass the new design if it's scaled up, keeping overall shape. ...deal?
    Ha ha ha Mr Landy you been swimming in that river in Egypt again ❓

    You need to drive a current model dual cab, there is no way a Defender is easier to drive or park❗️

    At the very least your obscurity is very entertaining (no offence intended) it's humorous reading this thread

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    Babs Guest
    Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha Tombie you crack me up. Bada Bing Bada Bang

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  10. #240
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    I owned one of those generic current model dualcabs for a while Babs. Yup thought I'd give one a try. It was nice enough, in a vanilla kind of way. But absolutely terrible to park, poor visibility, blind spots everywhere, too long. And it was soft. ...Swimming in deNile you reckon? 😊 Or just not conforming to your satisfaction? Glad you're enjoying the thread. 👍

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