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    Just for the record, not that I’m bothered.

    Retrofitting an non-factory option LED into a Defender is a defect. So be aware that the only approved unit is the one on the Factory offeringsWhat did you do to your Puma today?

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    Even if it is ADR approved and has all Australian compliance stamps imprinted on them for Australian headlights?

    Oh well, it’s only illegal if I get pulled over and if that’s the biggest crime I’ve committed in my life, I’m doing ok.😇

    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Just for the record, not that I’m bothered.

    Retrofitting an non-factory option LED into a Defender is a defect. So be aware that the only approved unit is the one on the Factory offeringsWhat did you do to your Puma today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baytown View Post
    Even if it is ADR approved and has all Australian compliance stamps imprinted on them for Australian headlights?

    Oh well, it’s only illegal if I get pulled over and if that’s the biggest crime I’ve committed in my life, I’m doing ok.What did you do to your Puma today?
    That’s correct
    And I agree What did you do to your Puma today?

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    Don't know about other states, but here in NSW fitting of LED headlights is legal so long as they are ADR compliant - at least by my reading of VSI-064:

    https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default...tion-no-64.pdf

    I know the Wipacs I fitted, which are very similar to the OEM Noldens, are ADR compliant so I'm not anticipating any problems.

    Cheers,
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    Don't know about other states, but here in NSW fitting of LED headlights is legal so long as they are ADR compliant - at least by my reading of VSI-064:

    https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default...tion-no-64.pdf

    I know the Wipacs I fitted, which are very similar to the OEM Noldens, are ADR compliant so I'm not anticipating any problems.

    Cheers,
    Jon
    Looks like the LED ones all into the Halogen category in NSW so that’s good.

    Not so in SA.

    HIDs still seem to need all the headlight washer compliance.

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    ADR compliance and Roadworthyness.

    Thanks Jon;

    ‘I’m in Tassie but it’s good to know either way.

    ‘I can’t understand why companies would be expected to have their product conform to the relevant ADR and have to stamp the compliance into their shell, just to have it not be legal hence sellable in this country. Just didn’t sound right. (Info wise or by the driver.)


    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    Don't know about other states, but here in NSW fitting of LED headlights is legal so long as they are ADR compliant - at least by my reading of VSI-064:

    https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default...tion-no-64.pdf

    I know the Wipacs I fitted, which are very similar to the OEM Noldens, are ADR compliant so I'm not anticipating any problems.

    Cheers,
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baytown View Post
    Thanks Jon;

    ‘I’m in Tassie but it’s good to know either way.

    ‘I can’t understand why companies would be expected to have their product conform to the relevant ADR and have to stamp the compliance into their shell, just to have it not be legal hence sellable in this country. Just didn’t sound right. (Info wise or by the driver.)
    In much the same way as a Bull bar has to be ADR compliant - it only applies to the models it’s produced to suit.

    Throwing a compliance on a product means it meets a spec, not a specific use if that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baytown View Post
    Thanks Jon;

    ‘I’m in Tassie but it’s good to know either way.

    ‘I can’t understand why companies would be expected to have their product conform to the relevant ADR and have to stamp the compliance into their shell, just to have it not be legal hence sellable in this country. Just didn’t sound right. (Info wise or by the driver.)
    ADRs are national, the states have the responsibility to manage transport and registration. Different states do different things because they all think they are smarter than other states. Then politicians get involved....... Wait, this sounds familiar

    Since I was really bored I did some research....

    In Tasmania vehicle standards are written into legislation and as such the legislation reads that "cars must have headlights that shine at least 50 metres". Link to legislation - there is some more in there View - Tasmanian Legislation Online
    In short the legislation does not talk about technology, only whether the lights work and do not shine in oncoming driver's eyes on low beam. A most sensible approach in my opinion.


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    Thanks Tote!

    Thanks Tote mate.

    Yes, Tassie certainly is an interesting place, you don’t even need a Roadworthy to sell a second hand car!, and the Police are good generally if you pass the attitude test on giving you a formal warning for low level speeding vs a fine. (Ask me how I learned that one!)

    I love it here vs the Nanny and overly policed states that Victoria and NSW have become. (I’ve never lived in NSW though, and no way would I leave Tassie now.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    ADRs are national, the states have the responsibility to manage transport and registration. Different states do different things because they all think they are smarter than other states. Then politicians get involved....... Wait, this sounds familiar

    Since I was really bored I did some research....

    In Tasmania vehicle standards are written into legislation and as such the legislation reads that "cars must have headlights that shine at least 50 metres". Link to legislation - there is some more in there View - Tasmanian Legislation Online
    In short the legislation does not talk about technology, only whether the lights work and do not shine in oncoming driver's eyes on low beam. A most sensible approach in my opinion.


    Regards,
    Toie

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    It’s clear as mud to the end user isn’t it Mike!

    The whole After market parts system here can be a real trap. I was very aware of this when I had the Defender engineer certified both in Victoria and Signed off RWC compliance in TAS on vehicle arrival after the engine swap as the replacement rims, prop shafts and everything else have to have relevant acceptance.

    Im fortunate my gear is all big name supplied but all those who fit lesser quality to the crappy vehicles/mods you see driving around will be in for a rude shock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    In much the same way as a Bull bar has to be ADR compliant - it only applies to the models it’s produced to suit.

    Throwing a compliance on a product means it meets a spec, not a specific use if that makes sense.

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