Thread: Puma Engine broken and bleeding with missfire and choofing

Originally Posted by grinna1965

How did you go with your engine mate,if you need an engine I have a 2.2 with 20000km on it

The dealer has put a claim to LR Australia to replace the engine...that was last week so we will see what the verdict is soon I hope.

Mine's almost halfway to those Ks. I'll be interested do see what caused the failure.

There are literally 100s of thousands of these engines running around world wide.
Considering the numbers of them out there these cases seem to be rare. I hope LR comes to the party mate, i really do.

Originally Posted by 1nando

There are literally 100s of thousands of these engines running around world wide.
Considering the numbers of them out there these cases seem to be rare. I hope LR comes to the party mate, i really do.

My sentiments exactly.

I got a call from the service manager at the dealer today, he went on explaining that an injector failed which then caused the compression loss in No4 cylinder...then advised that they need to replace the engine, fuel system high pressure pump and injectors, and filter. As well as assorted gaskets...he then advised that the cost will be $29,000.00
As you perhaps could have guessed there was a moment of silence as i calculated in my mind the cost......I then mentioned what about the claim to LR Australia....he was unaware that there was even a claim in....so he advised that he will call me back....two hours later I called the dealer and he advised that there was a case submitted to LRA and I will be updated tomorrow as the case manager was away today.
How can a engine cost 3/4 the cost of a new vehicle...seriously????
I will not be forking out $29K for a new engine when as a consumer I expect a diesel engine to last more than 155,000 km, even if the injector failed due to water contamination, then the LR fuel filter/separator is not fit for purpose due to the fact that if the engine fuel system is so sensitive to fuel contamination then where is the warning system to alert the driver that there could be water in the fuel....my 1986 Hilux has such a warning light from the factory.
If the injector failed prematurely then as a result destroyed the engine, then why is that the fault of the consumer?
Serious....if the fuel system and engine is so sensitive to premature failure then I would not have bought the vehicle in the first place, was I warned by the selling dealer that there is potential for your engine to fail with low kilometers on it every three years....If I had say a million K's on it i would understand, but with all this modern technology gone are the days of a engine rebuild every 200,000km.
I will be pushing the issue that the fuel systems on the Puma motor and LR engineering for the fuel filter are not fit for purpose, it is a bloody 4x4 that is meant for worldwide expeditions where you can get various different qualities of fuel, so the fuel system should be able to cope, the system should not have a major failure just driving up a small hill in the city on the way home from work....sorry...rant over.....but very unhappy.

Too bloody right LR should replace the engine and I'll bet, in the end, they do.

I was trying to find another thread of engine failure but couldn't remember why their engine failed until you pointed out the injector fault. Theirs was also an injector that caused the damage. Don't recall it having been contaminated though,thougt it was more related to a common rail issue. So,in your case a water separator (that actually works) might have avoided this problem?

You give me $20,000 (mates rates discount) and I'll give you a new engine, injectors and anything else that needs replacing. I was quoted $6,000 for a long block (a 2.4) from Transit Auto on the outskirts of Melb. They offered a $7,000 roll in drive out engine replacement (that was 12 months ago). I was quoted $400 an injector. Even allowing for gold plated terminals there is a bit of fat in your quote. Like i said, I'll give you mates rates to sort it on your behalf.

If you go down the litigation route on the ACL, PM me, I might be able to offer some assistance or at least a sounding board (my bread and butter).