Thread: wheels for a 95 130

Thankyou. Sounds like the only way off-set affects turning circle then is when the tyres/wheels hit something and prevent full lock. Good to know that's all there is to it.
I like the idea of a slightly wider stance giving better stability. I'd be interested to hear how noticeable the difference is. Being a narrow wheel base it could be quite noticeable.

Only problem right now is I have the tyre shop telling me +20 will be a perfect fit, and zero will overhang the guards and won't fit.

Sounds like the consensus here is that zero is preferred, and +20 might foul.

I can go with their recommendation and tell them if there's any fouling they can pull them off and return them.
Or I can tell them zero, and I might be asking about replacing my flares quick smart.

Decisions, decisions...

It’s quite Simple Mark...

Put a flat edge up the tyre to the guard...
Then measure to the lip of the flare accounting for thickness of straight edge.

If it’s under 20mm it will protrude

Answers in red.

Originally Posted by Mark130

Hello All,
I need new tyres, I'm ready to go tubeless, and I'm happy to buy new wheels for peace of mind
I have a 2002 130 with the 6.5 (tube only) rims.

I currently have 235/85/R16 and have been looking at old threads to see if I should go wider, or increase rolling diameter.
Haven't seen a compelling argument so staying at same size (still happy to hear a compelling case)
255/85R16 would be an obvious upgrade. Slightly wider and slightly taller, a lot of people use them including myself. They give more ground clearance, more track, better road handling but probably increased fuel consumption.

I've looked around at all the local steel wheels and spoke to Dynamic and Infinity. Haven't really looked at paddocks.
I've looked at shipping wheels but the cost is prohibitive.

I see Inc decided on Infinity 16x7 0 offset, and I thought I was happy to follow suit.

I thought I'd support my local tyre power, so I asked them to confirm everything before we booked it in

They rang around all the wheel mobs
and told me zero offset would stick out of the guards (Infinity has zero offset)
so I'd need to go Dynamic that had a +20 offset, and that would be perfect.
They also said offset doesn't affect turning circle
From what I have seen with other people, zero offset and 255s will sit flush. I'm not sure if that is 16*8 or 16*7 though. I have 255's on HD Rims (16*6.5 +20.6) and they are inside the flares by a little bit.

My understanding of offset was obviously back the front.
I thought the more positive the offset the further out the guard, but sounds like more negative the offset the further out it sticks
Is that correct?
Negative offset moves wheels out, positive offset moves wheels in.

And can someone tell me the relationship between offset, and affecting turning circle please.
Others seem to prefer 0 zero, so I'm guessing there must be a good reason
If you have a
If you have a more negative offset, that is, your wheels have moved further out, then you have the opportunity to adjust your steering stops as the tires are further away from the parts they would rub on. This will give you a better turning circle.

Thankyou

Cheers Mark

Here are some figures for you

16*6.5 +20.6 = 4.56" backspace (Yours and mine current size, no rubbing with 235 and 255 tires)
16*7 +0 = 4" backspace (no rubbing with 235 and 255 tires)
16*8 +0 = 4.5" backspace (no rubbing with 235 and 255 tires)
16*7 +33 = 5.3" backspace (eg disco rims, these will rub my spring perches with 255's)
16*7 +20 = 4.79" backspace (potentially might rub spring perches with 255's?)

On a side note, I have thrashed my HD Rims offroad and they have been awesome. I bought some aftermarket rims and dented one the first time I took them out

Wheel Repairs Melbourne

played the 255/85 game and they are too big if you tow anything weighing more than 750kg IMHO

255/85 on a 7" rim they are just okay, on a 6.5' rim, no thanks.

235/85 on a 0 offset 7" rim are just inside the flares on my vehicle, on a steel discovery wheel they were inside but you lose turning circle and they rub on the arms, or did on my 110.

hence why i went with what i did as i pull a 1 tonne van with the 130.

I don't think it's the 255/85 that is too big, its the 300tdi thats too small

Originally Posted by Vern

I don't think it's the 255/85 that is too big, its the 300tdi thats too small

had them on a 4bd1t and a 300tdi and they sucked on both of them, at different speeds tho it has to be said.

the 300tdi wouldnt pull the camper out of my driveway in 1st high and the 4bd1 would but thats about where the differences ended ...

i actually preferred the 300tdi which is why i went with one this time over a perentie.

to each his own......

Thanks Guys. I'm a lot more knowledgeable than I was 24 hours ago.

I do like the 255/85/R16 and I don't tow, and I'm hoping eventually that will be my size of choice.
I wore out my original Michelin's at 43k. Then moved to Brissie, fitted Cooper ST's and have only done 10ks in ten years. The Coopers are cracked from old age and I've just replaced all the tubes because they fell apart; just to buy me some time.
So I don't deserve to upsize atm. No expensive tyres until I can prove I can use them as they were intended.

I still like the zero offset option, and if the 255/85 fits on the 7'' rim even better for next time.

Tombie I only have 15mm from the tyre to the edge of the flare. 40mm from the edge of the rim to the flare. Maybe my flares have dropped a little...compared to Inc's.

I'll have another chat with them on Monday.
I might even get some new 235/85 tyres and keep my original rims and tubes for now. Bit of a cop out but will buy me some time to clock up more klms, and check up the flare situation.
Thanks again for all the assistance
Cheers Mark