Thread: 09 PUMA... With water in fuel

Hi guys
I am considering buying a defender Puma 09 but after reading this tread i am definitely having second thoughts i cannot believe land rover are still having these types of problems on these 4WD they are suppose to be unbreakable.
And if the fix is only to run a pipe up from the fuel tank breather have they done a recall,any feedback would be relay appreciated.

Thanks Declan

Originally Posted by Declan

Hi guys
I am considering buying a defender Puma 09 but after reading this tread i am definitely having second thoughts i cannot believe land rover are still having these types of problems on these 4WD they are suppose to be unbreakable.
And if the fix is only to run a pipe up from the fuel tank breather have they done a recall,any feedback would be relay appreciated.

Thanks Declan

Don't know about a recall, but I have done all my customers ones for them and so far so good, 30,000km on one of them and it gets fuel from country servos and spends a lot of time on muddy roads, river crossings, snow etc etc. At his last service drained the sedimenter and got only about 10ml of water out, this is after about 20K, as LR did the service before and it hadn't been inspected then.
I'd be more concerned about noisy diffs, transfer case lash, loose suspension with bolts dropping out (Had 2 like that) and loose rear tailshaft bolts causing the park brake drum etc to flog out.(Had 2 like that) 1 even had the rear output flange nut come loose and leak trans oil into the park brake and yet another with the 130DC cab bracketry so loose that the rear doors would creak and clunk over even moderate bumps.
My advice is find a competent workshop and get a check/ tighten up of EVERY underbody and suspension fixing after 5000km, as the build quality seems to STILL be approximate.
Don't get me wrong, I love these vehicles I am just frustrated at the level of human error and inattention during construction and after.

JC

Originally Posted by justinc

Don't get me wrong, I love these vehicles I am just frustrated at the level of human error and inattention during construction and after.

JC

X2...... Quality control what quality control

After giving juniors a good going over,i cant believe what they are like

As for getting to the air cleaner...what a joke what were they thinking....


Now if i compare the fit/finish,quality control to my new work Hiace,which is also a commercial vehicle,well...there is absolutely just no comparison

But dont get me wrong,i love the Landys

If LR keep up with this nonsence,to say the least,& are bringing all these new defender models into the country,they are only gonna get a worse name than they already have.More sales equates to more problems,unless they sort out the issues,which doesnt seem to be happening.

OK So Landrover have bounced the warranty on mine. They claim that dirt and water in the dule tank is not covered under warranty.

I've spoken to customer care and they will look into it.

BUT Anyone know the best way of getting my money back? Small Claims or a lawyer? Anyone know a good lawyer who handles this sort of case in Melbourne?

Originally Posted by Declan

Hi guys
I am considering buying a defender Puma 09 but after reading this tread i am definitely having second thoughts i cannot believe land rover are still having these types of problems on these 4WD they are suppose to be unbreakable.
And if the fix is only to run a pipe up from the fuel tank breather have they done a recall,any feedback would be relay appreciated.

Thanks Declan

Declan no 4x4 is unbreakable !

Sorry to hear this. Its the second time I've heard about trouble caused by aux tank being knocked back under warranty. Dealer told me of one in Perth that sucked up loads of dirt from a new aux. tank into injector pump etc. He had to pay for repair. Seems LR are all over modifications on these vehicles.

Allan

Is there any way of putting an extra water trap/fuel filter in the line?
like from a Tractor type filter(for example)'maybe someone can come up with one? I talked to an Ex Landrover dealership mechanic here in NZ he said all the espically Newer Range Rovers and discos did not have enough filters in their fuel systems to catch water etc
Some range rovers with the BMW6 cylinder diesel engines had one tiny filter and they has lots of problems with water etc He advised me to get another filter in the Puma fuel line as he has seen two cases of bad fuel and LR wanted to deny it here in NZ, his logic was when I said what about the warranty he said, well whats a $500 filtring system compared to a new common rail , fuel injection system and as he said LR should be happy you are preventing a claim!!! but we know they are not logical at all anyway!!!
As also mentioned new Toyota V8 diesels are having major problems here with water in diesel and not enough filtering

Has anybody got a puma and not had a problem with it ,if so how are they finding their defender is there any niggle points they want to pass onto someone that had there heart set on buying one but at the moment is in limbo on his decision.

Thanks for the replies Declan.