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    TD5 Dual mass flywheel??

    I am at the moment in the process of having my Flywheel replaced as a result of searching for a noise in the gearbox it was found to be worn outside the recomended parameters.(approx 30mm play) I have done some searching on the topic and it seems that this problem can occur anywhere from 30000kms onwards.(Mine has done 70000kms).The answer I cant find is "What causes it to wear?" Can I expect to be dropping the box and replacing the $800 flywheel every 70000kms if I retain my current driving style.My vehicle has never towed a load beside a couple of wheelie bins to the tip,only been driven in traffic 2-3 times and basically if it gets started will do a minimum of 300-400km trip down the hiway.
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    could be....

    once they start to go they last for ages (usually) and will survive with a lot more play than youve got.

    It can be replaced with a single mass unit but other than race type applications IVe not heard anything advantageous to doing so other than the flywheel wont wear out and can be machined.

    I suspect that, based on the few reports from people who have fitted them, that they will be harder on the front end of the gearbox than the dual mass unit and you might find yourself replacing the box more often but at this stage as the only people I know that have done this have put second hand boxes (the original box) back onto the new flywheel/clutch I'm only speculating.

    Whats even more frustrating about it is if you happen to get a good one that lasts the life of your friction plate when you goto replace the friction plate you cant get the bugger ground so new clutch=new flywheel as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    could be....

    once they start to go they last for ages (usually) and will survive with a lot more play than youve got.

    It can be replaced with a single mass unit but other than race type applications IVe not heard anything advantageous to doing so other than the flywheel wont wear out and can be machined.

    I suspect that, based on the few reports from people who have fitted them, that they will be harder on the front end of the gearbox than the dual mass unit and you might find yourself replacing the box more often but at this stage as the only people I know that have done this have put second hand boxes (the original box) back onto the new flywheel/clutch I'm only speculating.

    Whats even more frustrating about it is if you happen to get a good one that lasts the life of your friction plate when you goto replace the friction plate you cant get the bugger ground so new clutch=new flywheel as well.
    Still a hell of a lot cheaper than the Nissan ones in the Navarra etc, which need replacing with the clutch anywhere down to 45K

    LR parts aren't all that horrific anymore

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    LR parts never were. well mostly...
    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    LR parts never were. well mostly...
    Well WE know that Dave, but until recently try convincing the Nissan and Toymota drivers that!
    Hows your dad getting on with the 'box?

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    So it doesnt need replacing at this amount of wear, but I may as well while we are in there.In the interest of reliability then, I should figure on replacing the clutch and flywheel every 80-100000kms, even if asymptomatic, as in this case, we were loking for something else.The clutch was basically "as new", but is the same old story, may as well while you have the box out.
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    How do you tell how much play the DM Flywheel has without dropping the box?

    I had to replace a dry - noisey crank shaft pinion bush at 180,000kms on the Disco and had the flywheel checked at the same time. I was able to rotate it about 2cm by hand (1cm in either direction) and was told by a Land Rover whizz that this was quite normal - within spec. We have done just under 70,000km since without a problem.

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    I would say that all the ones I have replaced haven't had any more than that amount of rotataional movement, but that they were 'rocking' which means the centre boss is worn excessively.

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    In my case there was only rotational movement,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bundalene View Post
    How do you tell how much play the DM Flywheel has without dropping the box?
    I haven't tried it yet but I suspect removing the starter motor would give enough access to the pressure plate side of the flywheel.
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