EV general discussion

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Originally Posted by BradC

They all have that already. If you’ve seen a lithium battery fire, all that is a bit like ****ing on a bushfire. You don’t need sprinklers, you need many hours of deluge and no buildings have either the storage or pumping capacity for that.

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Brad, You omitted "decent Drains that work & can cope."[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by BradC

They all have that already. If you’ve seen a lithium battery fire, all that is a bit like ****ing on a bushfire. You don’t need sprinklers, you need many hours of deluge and no buildings have either the storage or pumping capacity for that.

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We have deluge systems on some jobs,all fun and games.[biggrin]

Insurance companies are not stupid,if there is any huge risk,they wont be interested in covering them,it is as simple as that.
Buildings will have to be modified,or they will walk away.
Or premiums will be rediculously huge.

We have the same issues with buildings full of cold room panelling,even though its XFLAM,which has fire retardant.
I know of one that is licensed for growing Cannabis.Fully accredited through the Office of Drug Control.
Only one insurance company in Aus, will cover the property and the business due to the risk,and the premium increased from last year to this year by almost 50%.The dollar figure for cover is up close to $200K,the property is 1400M square,so not huge by any means.

The property does not have a sprinkler system,if it did,the premium would be less,and more insurance companies would be interested.

That is just an example of how insurance companies operate,its all about risk,and they are not worried about walking away from risks.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Brad, You omitted "decent Drains that work & can cope."[bighmmm]

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Sorta, don't need the drains if you can't get the water in there. But yeah, I see your point.

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Originally Posted by BradC

Sorta, don't need the drains if you can't get the water in there. But yeah, I see your point.

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Just that you mentioned Deluging which implies a heap of water but in a downstairs car park without correctly installed & cleared drains the place would look like the Brissie River today with cars floating every which way.

I'll go now shall I?[bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Just that you mentioned Deluging which implies a heap of water but in a downstairs car park without correctly installed & cleared drains the place would look like the Brissie River today with cars floating every which way.

I'll go now shall I?[bigrolf]

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Not at all, it's these sort of things we tend to highlight when we do these reviews.

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Originally Posted by BradC

Not at all, it's these sort of things we tend to highlight when we do these reviews.

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You all know the truth and the current pain - Happily a solution

Attachment 177520 Unless your in a EV

Sorry Brad Its not funny in some ways mate[bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

You all know the truth and the current pain - Happily a solution

Attachment 177520 Unless your in a EV

Sorry Brad Its not funny in some ways mate[bigwhistle]

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Everything is funny at the moment. When fuel gets up to about 6 times the price of wine I'll start distilling the wine down to ethanol for the car.

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Originally Posted by BradC

Everything is funny at the moment. When fuel gets up to about 6 times the price of wine I'll start distilling the wine down to ethanol for the car.

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Only the goonies and craps stuff please Brad. We both know WA has some might fine wines mate[biggrin]

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

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Then a few weeks till they are here for "A new kind of charger that allows an electric vehicle (EV) to be used as a giant home battery is close to going on sale in Australia, with the first commercial shipment to arrive within weeks.Unlike standard one-way EV chargers, bidirectional chargers can also discharge energy from an EV, which means they can be used to power a home (known as vehicle-to-home or V2H) and its appliances, or to export energy to the grid (vehicle-to-grid or V2G).This may sound simple, but bringing them to Australia has proven difficult.For years, a mix of regulatory and engineering hurdles have repeatedly pushed back the technology's rollout date.
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That is a bit funny as I know the Victron Multiplus/ solar inverter/ Red Flow batteries I have at work could also be used to charge or take power from a EV battery on grid or during grid failures. I would need a new plug and a bit of wiring only.

"Bidirectional chargers will cost about $10,000, or a bit less than a standard home battery. " [tonguewink][tonguewink][tonguewink] A single victron unit is well under 1/2 that!!!! I call a rip off price by the company which is a bit sad. SMA inverters have bi-directional chargers as well. Called hybrid inverters usually!

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I saw that - I'd presumed that was always available in Australia, it's been available in Japan for at least 10 years, and I remember my wife telling me about it ages before that. I thought that it sounded a bit wacky then realised later that it made sense.

In Japan Toyota will sell you a house (yes, there are Toyota prefab houses), a carport with a roof made out of solar panels and the car to put in the garage. In Japan the newer houses are always able to run from solar when the grid is off and have quite large battery storage built in - in the display homes I used to see, they were in expandable cabinets near the kitchen.

NB, it turned out after the tsunami that electric cars were more resilient than ICE - because there were fuel shortages that affected ICE but people with electric cars were able to charge the cars from their solar and still get around.

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Originally Posted by BradC

Everything is funny at the moment. When fuel gets up to about 6 times the price of wine I'll start distilling the wine down to ethanol for the car.

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BLIMEY BRAD! That is a bit extreme.[bigrolf]



However, your car may run & idle better on a nice Shiraz rather than a cheap Rose. The exhaust fumes could lay some folk out cold though.[bighmmm]