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Can’t disagree with that - price is indeed the biggest hurdle to getting mass exceptance of them IMO. But second hand EV’s might not hit the mark either - I wouldn’t buy one knowing the battery pack could be on its last legs or get me half the KM it used to. Back to square one - price.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
I see one of that company's conditions is the battery must be at least 80% capacity. That's good.
not to mention the cost of replacement batteries is worth more than the used car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
not hard for a dealer to fudge that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
Wouldn't believe that at all - as Eevo says, too easy to fudge and you end up with a car worth scrap value.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
I like EV's and would have one if they weren't so expensive - I wouldn't buy a second hand one, so me - as a potential target for this market, still wouldn't move to an EV by doing this - back to the drawing board. Until battery tech is cheap enough that an EV can compete with an ICE vehicle cost wise for purchase - on it's own, not with subsidies, etc, then I'll take a serious look.
hey, have you blokes forgotten my post a few months ago?
You can buy a used Nissan Leaf right now and have been able to for months if not years.
Only problem is that their range is sometimes down to 80KM and AFAIK Nissan will not sell the reconditioned batteries for them.
So what cars will be imported by this new mob?
One would have to bet on Nissan Leafs wouldn't one, seeing they are the most sold EV in the World.
Have a look on Carsales .com.
Regards PhilipA
im still waiting for a good electric motorbike in aust
You might be able to do a repower soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Yamaha reveals electric crate motor | Stuff.co.nz
A mate who brought a new mustang was at a stealer considering an upgrade. The stealer who had sold him the car point out bubble rust spots when offering a trade in price! He got the bonnet and another panel replaced under warranty and forgot the idea of the upgrade[bigrolf] The stealer stole from himself fixing a interesting fault on a year old car parked and used a long way from the sea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Buyer beware applies to all cars EV or not.
You can now pre order a Harley Live wire. I wont be. Seems significantly over priced (as usual) for a Harley bike.
"While the number of electric crossovers is somewhat limited today, offerings are slated to grow exponentially in the near future. If we include PHEVs — which we should, because many of them run close to 100% electric anyway — 2021 will see the space filled by the Toyota RAV4 Prime, Volkswagen ID.4, Ford Mustang Mach E, Volvo XC40, Audi e-tron Sportback and the MG ZS EV. That's in addition to existing vehicles including the Hyundai Kona, Kia Niro EV, Tesla Model X & Y and the Jaguar I-PACE. "
Thats from a vested interest of course JET CHARGE. Interesting to note a competitor is talking about adding H2 to EV stations. Not suggesting the cost of either EV or fuel cell is suitable yet.
There plan seems to met my thought the heavy vehicle sector will be first mover in the H2 area. "The initial network will target major heavy freight and transport corridors across Australia, delivering rapid charging or hydrogen refuelling using renewable energy sources."
Costs are about volumes and capacity not theories.
https://thedriven.io/2020/07/28/gree...ation-network/
"one of the main drivers of increased adoption, particularly for fleet managers, are the lower operating and maintenance costs that can be achieve by switching to alternatives to ICE vehicles."
I think that line on cost savings makes the issue over once suitable reliable options arrive. R.O.I. rules at both big and small ends of money. My mustang driving mate had a D2 and made the choice to depart over money. He thinks hybrid ICE/EV would be his choice. I feel the maintenance savings evaporates with a ICE hybrid.
Then again reading about Infinite Blue is a step in the the dream zone despite claims of large funding channels
I want to is a lot different to I am doing [bigwhistle]
The latest model of the Leaf is sold here with a 40kW battery pack, an indicative range of 270kms, and costs about $53,000. There are various ways of predicting range and some overseas reports say up to 380kms.
People travel an average of only 80kms a day, so that should be plenty of range for average usage.
The Leaf, not Tesla, is the world's top-selling EV and has been sold overseas for some time, so there should be plenty of good used ones around, particularly in Japan where taxes encourage rapid turnover of vehicles, to be imported into Oz when say 2-3 years old and with at least 80% of battery life left. The crowd in the story have the batteries tested before deciding to buy.
Another way to think of it is as a mobile battery pack, which can be plugged into the house and store power generated by solar during the day to run the house at night.
I can't afford one now we're retired, but I can see an argument being made for working people.
Nissan LEAF - Electric car of new-generation | Nissan Australia