EV general discussion

"There will be big fuel savings though."

Maybe, at what cost?Costs and inconvenience that businesses and the public don't want .

"It's certainly going to be disruptive"

Sure is,thats why its such a long way off,until technology catches up.At the moment its way to disruptive.

"Some places in Europe etc are already moving to ban diesel vehicles.

Hasn't been done,probably never will.Some have banned diesels that don't comply with the latest emission rules,which is sort of sensible,not just a blanket ban on all of them.It will take a very game politician to ban all diesels.There are a few harping on about it,wanting it to happen in 20yrs.Thats alright for them,they will be long gone.And many are only saying it to try and look good,and keep on the side of some voters.Actually doing it is a different thing.

London is moving to Euro VI low emissions regulations from October and trucks which fail to comply can be charged up to 300 pounds per visit, so that's a pretty big incentive to go clean.

Changes to the LEZ - Transport for London

Incase you missed it UK has bought the ban of fossil fuels forward by 5 years to 2035 , that includes Petrol diesel & Hybrids .

Petrol and diesel ban: UK gives car industry 15 years to ditch fossil fuels - CNN

It's going to be a huge disruption.
This is a ban on sales of new petrol and diesel vehicles, so presumably existing vehicles will still be able to remain in use until they are scrapped.
It could smash the value of used petrol and diesel vehicles.
It's interesting they are including hybrids in this ban.
JLR faces a huge challenge to convert it's range of vehicles to EVs by 2035. Can it afford the massive investment required?
Will JLR be forced to marge with another car manufacturer with EV skills to survive? There are already rumours about Peugeot.

the horse n cart died out without being banned.

why do we need to ban ICE?

Because horse **** didn't threaten to cause a bushfire emergency.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Because horse **** didn't threaten to cause a bushfire emergency.

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If you think ICE's caused a bushfire emergency here in Australia why are you still driving your ICE?

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Originally Posted by Ferret

If you think ICE's caused a bushfire emergency here in Australia why are you still driving your ICE?

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I think DM is the BR.......of EV and Climate Change and Politics.

Be good if we got a bit of relief....

JLR is already building electric cars, so presumably they have at least some of the necessary technology.

The issue is more likely to be if the change is going to happen while they are still paying for investment that is no longer useful. I don't know how they are situated in that regard.

Apart from engines and gesrboxes, most of the rest of their expenditure is building the structure and running gear, or is bought in. Many of their engines are bought in, and I think a lot of their gearboxes - so those suppliers are going to be the ones with real problems. The equipment used to make the structure and running gear can also be used for EVs, but they may have to take losses on design work and tooling.

They have said that all their future designs from now will have electric versions.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

It's going to be a huge disruption.
This is a ban on sales of new petrol and diesel vehicles, so presumably existing vehicles will still be able to remain in use until they are scrapped.
It could smash the value of used petrol and diesel vehicles.
It's interesting they are including hybrids in this ban.
JLR faces a huge challenge to convert it's range of vehicles to EVs by 2035. Can it afford the massive investment required?
Will JLR be forced to marge with another car manufacturer with EV skills to survive? There are already rumours about Peugeot.

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Could increase the value of used ICE vehicles to be honest.