EV general discussion

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Originally Posted by Homestar

The Boss has an LC200 which is around 3 years old - top spec and immaculate. He was just offered $10K more than he paid for it - as a trade in for a 300. He declined. It was in for a scheduled service and the Sales Manager came out to see him when he picked it up.

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Same here,although ours is not top spec.Been asked more than once.
Have a look at Hi Ace prices second hand,absolutely rediculous.

Going to order a Hi Lux for work,still 4 to 6 months wait[bigsad]
Need a Hi Ace as well,in stock,which is surprising.

Neighbour picked up a Ford Wildtrack,paid a huge premium to jump the queue.[bighmmm]
He actually is not that happy with it,doesn't pull the van anything like as well as his previous tug,an 11 yr old stock LC200 wagon.

Around here,most of the second hand and new car yards here are pretty full,the only one that is generally empty is the Tesla yard.

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Originally Posted by 3toes

There is also the question of who will be the winners on the electric car market and who will pull out? No one wants a vehicle that the manufacturer no longer exists to support. I would not want to bet on who will still be here in 10 years. While perhaps not such a factor in new vehicle sales it is showing real evidence of impacting the used market. This then further impacts values

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Already a major factor in China.

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Originally Posted by 3toes

Tesla recent price reduction has really hits used values hard across the market. This is then impacting the leasing companies who booked a value based on what was already a difficult market. Their risk committees were already nervous. There are some big losses based on predicted values and new real market values when these vehicles come back from the user and have to be sold

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Bigger than many think. Ford AU learned this when they blinked and dropped prices on the then EF in the face of diminishing sales due to the success of Holden's VT. The lease companies lost big on prospective resales. Contrary to popular myth, this is what killed the AU, as in those days nearly 80% of Falcodore sales were to lease companies for company cars, and they had had their fingers burnt.

As EV's get older,and tech advances,no doubt their resale values will plummet substantially.

The diminishing range of the battery, due to age,and cost of a replacement battery won't help resale either.

I may have rode my bike past yesterday? Didn't pay attention clearly [biggrin]

My new silly car is in Port Phillip Bay today. The Port Fairy Chemo Express run 20 Oct is looking very much simpler now!

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Originally Posted by Tins

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........... Contrary to popular myth, this is what killed the AU.......

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Jack Nassar killed the AU when he made the 'Captain's Pick' of the original front grill.

After time there was an option offered, but it was too late.

DL

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Originally Posted by scarry

As EV's get older,and tech advances,no doubt their resale values will plummet substantially.

The diminishing range of the battery, due to age,and cost of a replacement battery won't help resale either.

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Apparently a Common EV model is now the same price a standard ICE!!!

"Tesla Prices Fall Below Average US Car Costs, Model 3 On Par With Toyota Corolla" The story (IF True) is " The entry-level Model 3 costs nearly $9,000 less than the average price of a car in the US.
" Link to yarn https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...la/ar-AA1hWfjw

It was always going to happen. I thought it would be a few more years!

Edit. Re "The diminishing range of the battery, due to age,and cost of a replacement battery won't help resale" The failed battery from the Tesla here is repaired and in another car now I understand!
The remove and replace the battery was a LOT quicker than I though it would be for that brand.

Given they can. It is almost inevitable that Auto Electrical shops will be able to do it already.

Nissa Leaf have been out for 10 years now. Several stores in the USA are replacing them!

Just saw a interesting pic of range of thier batteries

https://assets-global.website-files....40c4_LEAF.webp

Nissan LEAF Battery Replacement Guide for EV Owners (recurrentauto.com)

My car is not worse after 50,000 ( It was NEVER great :) )
Still safe to 200km range at highway speeds. It only ever got its alleged WTPL 250 if crawling :)

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

I may have rode my bike past yesterday? Didn't pay attention clearly [biggrin]

My new silly car is in Port Phillip Bay today.

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Don't you know that Salt Water can bugger up engines etc? [bighmmm] [bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Don't you know that Salt Water can bugger up engines etc? [bighmmm] [bigrolf]

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It may have done that to the Ship Des. It's still sitting off Ocean Grove[bawl][bawl][bawl]

Dozens of ships waiting their turn to load or unload. Hoping to have it before Next Friday so I still have a chance that Melb Ports will work thought the flotilla of ships out there!

The Port is one of the major hurdles to getting a car now. The Dmax took 6 weeks from sitting on the ship waiting to be unloaded to taking delivery. Hope yours is much shorter - it seems to be the luck of the draw.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

It may have done that to the Ship Des. It's still sitting off Ocean Grove[bawl][bawl][bawl]

Dozens of ships waiting their turn to load or unload. Hoping to have it before Next Friday so I still have a chance that Melb Ports will work thought the flotilla of ships out there!

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It may have been quicker to unload in Adelaide & drive back to Vic.

You must have old shipmate buddies who can, in their civvie jobs, change things. Nudge nudge wink wink.:rulez: