Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by Arapiles

Again ... the ABS was discussing how far people who commute to work travel.

And, according the 2016 census, 73% of those people who commute to work do less than 20km. So, if they were driving, they're not going to need 800km range.

If it’s their “only runs to work” vehicle.

The whole popularity of Dual cabs for example was that tradies could use it all day and on the evenings/weekend it could be used to haul the family around.

I want a vehicle that can do everything to some extent.
Run me to work,
Run my to the next town,
Run me to Adelaide and back same day,
Tow it’s rated mass with a reasonable range,
Fuel up in under 5 min.


I still have my Cybertruck order in, so I want to see this stuff take off, at the moment it isn’t good enough

I looked at the practicality of a used Nissan Leaf as they are under $20K second hand and usually have about 120Km range left.

My wife does only about 20Km a day but every 2 weeks or so will go to a golf course maybe 100Km away.

We live at the Central Coast and my son lives in Kellyville so about 160KM or more on the M1 which of course can have an accident at any time.

So this just disqualifies a Nissan Leaf .
This is what is available today , not maybe 10 years time.

Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by Eevo

last time i checked aust has 26million people.

if the ABS cant be that right, they need to be dissolved.

That's 75% of the workforce, not the population.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Maybe there if parking is controlled by councils - but in shopping centers where the rules do not apply (except disabled) then all the shopping centre can do if a non EV is in the charging spot is to ask the offender to leave.

That parking station is run by a company, which is why it costs about twice as much as council parking.

Originally Posted by scarry

Less than 20 K a day,75% of people?

Does that include their commute on public transport,or their commute in their vehicles?

It wasn’t too long ago someone was harping on here about the average K’s done a year by cars is 15000.

So someone has their maths not right.

The ABS did the survey. The details are in there. I posted the link.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Exactly.

Mum is looking to replace her ageing vehicle and spoke to me about getting a PHEV.
My response - find the vehicle you like and just buy the normal one.

She will long have given up driving before she comes close to spending the difference

Lots of second hand PHEVs and Hybrids around. They are a good interim choice until EVs take over.

I'm seeing lots of hybrid Camrys and Corollas, for example. The economics definitely stack up for them. That's why so many taxis are hybrid Camrys. Taxi operators are totally hard-nosed and wouldn't go hybrid until it saved them money.
What's not to like about your first 20ks or so being on electric? That covers about three quarters of most peoples' trips.

I posted a link above to a site with the details of all the EVs currently sold in Oz. Some have a range of well over the 3-400 Ks I mentioned above.

It just surprises me that some people are determined to reject EVs, even when they have to contort themselves and stand on their heads to do it. It's not political, it's just progress. What's to fear?

Originally Posted by Eevo

last time i checked aust has 26million people.

if the ABS cant be that right, they need to be dissolved.

Did you check the date on the ABS article?

Unless the last time you checked was in 2016, you comment is pointless.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

I looked at the practicality of a used Nissan Leaf as they are under $20K second hand and usually have about 120Km range left.

My wife does only about 20Km a day but every 2 weeks or so will go to a golf course maybe 100Km away.

We live at the Central Coast and my son lives in Kellyville so about 160KM or more on the M1 which of course can have an accident at any time.

So this just disqualifies a Nissan Leaf .
This is what is available today , not maybe 10 years time.

Regards PhilipA

Prices still need to fall on new ones with longer range so they become more common on the second hand market.
As an interim measure another option might be a PHEV or Hybrid, such as the small Toyota PriusC, so short trips could be electric. Fuel economy 3.9 l/100kms and a range of 900 kms, so what's not to like?
I just checked and there are currently 59 Prius Cs on Car sales.

Check out these cars: carsales.com.au