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Electric Toyota LandCruiser set for production

Electric Toyota LandCruiser set for production - EV Central

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Originally Posted by goingbush

what a short sighted attitude you have, basically its a case of Adapt or Die .

Not at all, a lot more will die or suffer in the process.

Where do you think the Graphene comes from? Want to hear stories of the atrocities that go on in that region? The corruption and loss of lives? A good friend is one of the Process bosses and the **** that goes on, the corrupt local leaders and their disregard for life of their people is mind blowing. And why? Because they can manipulate the mines to change things like river flows, dams etc that result in ALL the water to downstream villages drying up.

Yes, that’s the true face of this wonderful push to be environmentally sound. At least those dead villagers are good for carbon sequestered into the ground.

Mining more to build more to pollute less is madness. Less emissions would occur simply be reducing new vehicle production and insisting on current ones being up to code on emissions controls they already have.

Do that whilst developing real solutions like Green H. Then allow new vehicles to be built based on that tech.

You think I’m short sighted? Batteries are short sighted.

You’re absolutely correct - adapt or die.

Adapt to the sensible realisation that finite space and resources demands finite populations and emissions. They aren’t mutually exclusive as many seem to think.

Adapt to changing weather conditions that aren’t going away anytime soon.

The major push for EVs is to replace ICEVs for commuting. It seems to me that the use of personal vehicles for most commuting shows shortcomings in public transport. In most cities of any size, most commuting should be by public transport.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Electric Toyota LandCruiser set for production

Electric Toyota LandCruiser set for production - EV Central

(incase you missed it)

Not the best range though.
And only driven by the need for zero emissions underground.

They’ll will have a fleet of them and one set will spend the entire alternate shift on chargers.

I cannot resist posting this link.
It seems that the benefits of RVs has been wildly overstated and that a diesel running bio fule mix is just as good for the environment.

171 Scientists: CO2 Budget Of Electric Mobility “Twice As Big As Assumed” By European Leaders – Watts Up With That?
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by Tombie

Should it?

So far none of this has demonstrated it is sustainable. People on the financial edge will be taxed into oblivion to cover it, and those who can afford it will go blissfully on in ignorance.

A sustainable future doesn’t involve ripping more and more elements out of the ground to feed the thirst of ever increasing population.

Nor does it work if the average citizen can no longer afford the basics due to increased costs of literally everything to fund a quest towards lower per capita emissions whilst exponentially increasing populations.

This one eyed approach is more ****ed than Linda Lovelace.

Tombie , may I PM you?

We've only got one planet. We're not moving to Mars any time soon. Let's not wreck Earth through greed and recklesness.

Is this getting closer to the price and range that some people say they want?

I think that Irish price converts to about $33,000. I did see an Australian version of that story, but can't find it at the moment.

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