Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

.34 is nearly twice again .22. It's ** really ** hard to get below .3 if you have a ICE car. The problem is not the top of the car - it's all the mechanicals underneath hanging down in the air.

The Lotus Elite from 1959 was ground breaking at the time. It was said to have a cd of .29. They enclosed basically all the mechanicals up into the fiberglass body. It allowed them to go uncommonly fast with a 1100cc fire pump engine.

And in 1955 Citroen was, from memory, 0.34 - and this was what it remained actually on the road and at all loads, not just in the wind tunnel, thanks to self levelling remaining at the same attitude, with the smooth underbody broken only by the exhaust pipes, with the muffler recessed into the body, and the exits for engine and brake cooling air, which were designed to support rather than break up the airflow under the vehicle. Changes to the nose in 1967 improved this further.

It is not necessary to have mechanicals hanging down in an ICE vehicle - just convenient for manufacturing (and repairs!).

Originally Posted by JDNSW

It is not necessary to have mechanicals hanging down in an ICE vehicle - just convenient for manufacturing (and repairs!).

Many modern vehicles have an under tray to reduce drag.Usually made of pieces of plastic and a pain to get off for repairs and servicing,although helpful manufacturers leave access panels to get to components such as oil filters,sump plugs etc.Or sometimes have a small rubber section to make it easier to get to the components.

Originally Posted by scarry

Many modern vehicles have an under tray to reduce drag.Usually made of pieces of plastic and a pain to get off for repairs and servicing,although helpful manufacturers leave access panels to get to components such as oil filters,sump plugs etc.Or sometimes have a small rubber section to make it easier to get to the components.

Yes - but I was pointing out that this was actually achieved in 1955 - it is not new or particularly modern. (And was combined with other "modern" features such as controlled collapse rate ends, dual braking system, inboard front discs, collapsible steering column etc.

This is funny

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The Rolls-Royce Spectre is the British car brand’s first-ever series-production electric vehicle, and the Goodwood-based firm has received more orders than expected, which led to some pretty long waiting times for buyers.Back in May, we reported that Rolls-Royce was expecting delivery times in excess of 15 months for its not-a-Wraith EV successor, which probably made some impatient and very wealthy people start looking elsewhere for their zero-emissions luxury coupe.However, Rolls-Royce CEO Torsten Muller-Otvos wants to make it very clear that the Spectre will be very hard to buy from anywhere but an official showroom, threatening to ban customers from ever purchasing a Rolls-Royce-branded vehicle if they sell their car for a profit to a used car dealership.
The news comes via CarDealerMagazine.co.uk, which writes that any attempts to cash in on the hugely popular new EV will result in clients being blacklisted.

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An Italian stallion brand has done a similar thing

https://www.rolls-roycemotorcars.com...m/spectre.html

Originally Posted by Homestar

So what are you eluding to here?

Are you alluding to him having eluded something?

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Yes - but I was pointing out that this was actually achieved in 1955 - it is not new or particularly modern. (And was combined with other "modern" features such as controlled collapse rate ends, dual braking system, inboard front discs, collapsible steering column etc.

Bloody Citroen!

Originally Posted by p38arover

Are you alluding to him having eluded something?

Thanks. When I typed it I thought it looked wrong, but it was first thing this morning and I hadn't had coffee yet so let it go.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Very good idea ditching the VW - no car should need a new clutch after 25KKM no matter what it is, type of transmission etc - I would say that's a straight out design flaw but that doesn't surprise me at all with VW.

A mate has a BMW M2, cost him around $90k and it's less than 2 years old. It's just had the clutch replaced under warranty due to shuddering .....