Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Not according to VW (except for sales in China which did take a hit):

Volkswagen Group delivers 42 percent more all-electric vehicles in the first quarter | Volkswagen Newsroom

Q1 is historically a low quarter for VW for new sales and deliveries:



The real story for 2022 and continues into 2023 is BYD have overtaken VW to claim 2nd spot for global BEV sales and is closing the gap to Tesla.

I don't understand. They are now saying they are going to shut the factory for at least six weeks. Maybe this has happened since the article you linked was April?

Volkswagen parks EV production following downturn in demand - carsales.com.au

Reports out of Europe claim EV manufacturing operations at VW’s Emden plant will be halted for at least six weeks in response to the reduced demand, resulting in the axing of 300 temporary positions.
The German car-maker says current demand for EVs in Europe is down 30 per cent on its internal forecasts. carsales’ own recent EV intender survey showed a 12 per drop in the number of Australian consumers considering an EV.

Originally Posted by 4bee

Apparently SKODA are owned by VW so I wonder if they are beset by the same problems

Short answer - yes they are.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I don't understand. They are now saying they are going to shut the factory for at least six weeks. Maybe this has happened since the article you linked was April?

Volkswagen parks EV production following downturn in demand - carsales.com.au

Reports out of Europe claim EV manufacturing operations at VW’s Emden plant will be halted for at least six weeks in response to the reduced demand, resulting in the axing of 300 temporary positions.
The German car-maker says current demand for EVs in Europe is down 30 per cent on its internal forecasts. carsales’ own recent EV intender survey showed a 12 per drop in the number of Australian consumers considering an EV.

The key point is “down on it’s internal forecasts”.

That is they over estimated how many to produce and consumers are starting to prepare for a global recession as interest rates and inflation starts to hit the global economy.

The post-pandemic spending sugar hit is over (well for VW anyway).

But I wouldn’t call dropping an extra shift over summer and letting go of 300 temporary staff (from a workforce of almost 700,000) a crisis for a company the size of VW - but I guess that is how the media works.

Early data is still showing Q2 sales for BEV’s will hit record new highs despite VW’s forecasting kerfuffle.

Originally Posted by LRJim

A place to connect the bike rack

&/or the trailer mounted Genny.

Originally Posted by scarry

That is the Aussie thieves catching up.

Overseas,particularly Europe,this has been going on ever since public chargers arrived on the scene.

They are usually stolen for the copper,that ends up in the scrap yards.

FWIW,i have a cousin that lives in London,he also said they continually steal lead from roofs as well.

Churches as well, Pagan bastards or Gypsies.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I don't understand. They are now saying they are going to shut the factory for at least six weeks. Maybe this has happened since the article you linked was April?

Volkswagen parks EV production following downturn in demand - carsales.com.au

Reports out of Europe claim EV manufacturing operations at VW’s Emden plant will be halted for at least six weeks in response to the reduced demand, resulting in the axing of 300 temporary positions.
The German car-maker says current demand for EVs in Europe is down 30 per cent on its internal forecasts. carsales’ own recent EV intender survey showed a 12 per drop in the number of Australian consumers considering an EV.

IMHO it was bound to happen when everyone believed the days of the ICE were finished.

There will be many more too.

Originally Posted by 4bee

IMHO it was bound to happen when everyone believed the days of the ICE were finished.

There will be many more too.

Jaguar's chest beating move to be all electric by 2025 should do wonders to it's already poor sales

We're Entering the Chasm in the EV Adoption Curve | The Drive

I think I stated the adoption curve some time ago.
It is true of many new models of ICE cars that there is an "early Adopters" period where the buyers will buy what they can get.
This can last for 6 months to a year depending on the popularity of the brand and car makers take advantage of it by producing a "rich mix".
In Ford Australia's case that meant building lots of Fairmonts and whatever . Now it means they will build lots of Titanium Everests.
Once the early adopters are satisfied, the average Joe starts to buy, and they buy far cheaper models than those at first, and actually look at the utility of what they want rather than what it does for their ego..
I confidently predict that this will also happen with EVs.
The mix of models will lean out greatly.
This is bad news for Tesla , as evidenced by their constant price reductions which discriminate against early adopters as their resale suffers enormously. No carmakers likes to reduce prices of current models for this reason, hence the proliferation of s"white hot specials with added content.
Just a few thoughts.
Regards PhilipA