Thread: EV general discussion

But then it would become a profit centre and they would charge big$ for casual charging.
I know dealers. Ming Moll territory.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I was thinking about this the other day, and it occurred to me that it might be good to hasten the spread of EV chargers if every dealer selling EV's had to install a charger.

i think the reality is if they sell Ev's they will need a bank of chargers,maybe at least a dozen.
But they won't have enough mains power,nor will the street,so then it will be up to Energex to put in more transformers,then on it goes.

Some have no idea how much power Ev's need,and if they are talking fast charging,the power just won't be available.

There is a good reason why the electric vehicle manufacturers are not going into the charging network business. If it was profitable they would

Local council installed a lot of chargers about 5 years ago to support drivers who had these vehicles as no one else was and they were the weakest link when pushed by vested interests for who was going to build the charging network. These are now all out of date and have to be replaced. Millions of rates payers funds being spent when it should be private enterprise wearing the cost

I am though amused by the electric vehicle owners who thought the charging was free and complain they have to pay

Last night I viewed a vlog by a UK reader who had a Taycan and had hit an object on the expressway. he had several battery overheating messages when next charging.
his appointment at a Porsche dealer was "next week" so he did a google and found that a USA Taycan owner had a similar experience leaving a 3CM damage to the undertray and was quoted USD50,000 for a new battery.
Moral of the story is be very very careful when you drive that you don't run over anything dropped on the road.
Regards PhilipA

I had an ACCIDENT You'll nEVer believe THE SHOCKING COST of REPLACING the BATTERY on my ELECTRIC CAR - YouTube

Originally Posted by 3toes

There is a good reason why the electric vehicle manufacturers are not going into the charging network business. If it was profitable they would

Local council installed a lot of chargers about 5 years ago to support drivers who had these vehicles as no one else was and they were the weakest link when pushed by vested interests for who was going to build the charging network. These are now all out of date and have to be replaced. Millions of rates payers funds being spent when it should be private enterprise wearing the cost

I am though amused by the electric vehicle owners who thought the charging was free and complain they have to pay

30 years ago a 186 computer then 286- 386 486..... todays watch or phone have 100 times that processor power.

The poor sods who put a 7kWh charge point have a several hour charge option only. That is now and was really suitable for home or motel like places. Even shopping centres are not places I like spending more than 30 minutes at

Used a quick top up at Airport West Vic after a drive to Ballan from Melbourne. $4.38 9.14 Kwh during a 10min toilet brake. If that had been ones your referring to I would have been there for an hour. Many or most of those 7kWh are tesla destination Chargers(TDC). I think Councils may have funded for parking and signage only? Port Fairy motel has one for customers as do one in Portland Vic. I use them while running a Marathon Slowly!
Colac's TDC is in a shopping centre car park. One of the most idiotic TDC is in Warrnambool where the position of the charge point on the main street is really only suitable for a type of ev The owner of that brand should be paying rates!!!!


TDC were free for business and councils a few years ago. No one has been silly enough to pay for one for public use for years, I hope!

I pay the Motels if I use them if not staying in the motel.

"I am though amused by the electric vehicle owners who thought the charging was free and complain they have to pay"

I am thoroughly not amused by people who do not pay for many things- Doctors, Ambulances and similar for non emergancy care or rotten red tape I deal with for free every day.

PSST- shhhh- Tesla battery in Mod 3 is dead or dying. Off for a replacement. I assume the new battery will be another Dead battery that has been repaired. Hundreds of cells of which some faulty can be picked out and replaced. Glad it is under warranty! 12 km to take it to 'Eletric Jesus' shop.

I lost my MG to the owner today

I am thoroughly not amused by people who do not pay for many things- Doctors, Ambulances and similar for non emergancy care or rotten red tape I deal with for free every day.

Who has free ambulance? I have to pay via my Private health insurance and it is $500 a pop or so if you don't have cover. And I am a pensioner( well part). Silver plus so that I can get a low cost hip if needed when I need it, not after 2 years in pain..
i have never in 16 years on the Central Coast of NSW had a bulk billing.
AFAIK very few doctors bulk bill now even for pensioners.
So it puts it into perspective re free charging when probably the top 20% of the population get free power for their virtue signalling toys and the bottom 20% pay for everything.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Who has free ambulance? I have to pay via my Private health insurance and it is $500 a pop or so if you don't have cover. And I am a pensioner( well part). Silver plus so that I can get a low cost hip if needed when I need it, not after 2 years in pain..
i have never in 16 years on the Central Coast of NSW had a bulk billing.
AFAIK very few doctors bulk bill now even for pensioners.
So it puts it into perspective re free charging when probably the top 20% of the population get free power for their virtue signalling toys and the bottom 20% pay for everything.
Regards PhilipA

Depends on your state for Ambulances. My Health insurance covers it as well. .
Ambulance costs around Australia: why is it free in some states and not others? - ABC News

"The average cost of an emergency transport in Victoria is more than $1,100, according to their website.But the cost can also apply if someone else calls an ambulance for you — even if you refuse service.
Coastal Victorian resident Michael said his 21-year-old son had just finished a difficult surf when a concerned passer-by called him an ambulance.
Although his son refused service, he was still hit with a $500 bill for the call-out."

Back to EV. Dropped Tesla to Eletric Jesus service place. Gent runs and rides motorcycles - Long chat. 20+ cars with lots of issues all under warranty. The loan car happily now with the owner of the Tesla is a Dual motor Mod 3. 4 odd seconds from 0 to 100 and that's if your quick enough to back off when you hit 100! That is almost as quick as the Honda CBR I had (RIP). A newer version is 3.55!!!!!

Back to ambulance bills- The Poor do NOT pay often. It is those of us who do pay or pay tax that pay for everything!!!!

"Patients owe Ambulance Victoria $39.9 million for unpaid emergency transport. Some $21.3 million of that, representing 19,108 trips, is in the hands of external debt collectors, the FOI documents state."

Originally Posted by PhilipA

I just was reading the latest Open Road and some of the comments by EV enthusiasts were laughable.

One poster "an Engineer" wrote that soon we would be able to induction charge an EV "like a mobile phone" so towing a caravan and unhitching to charge was not a problem!

The next poster said that soon caravans would be available with their own batteries and electric motors and an "intelligent towbar that would give acceleration and braking assist. WOW!
At what cost and what weight?

It will be a brave new world in 12 years time for sure.
Regards PhilipA

There is a lot of rubbish going both ways.

The idea of an electric caravan is already underway.

As a side note.. I actually think an electrically driven caravan would be super cool for off road use. Even if you just had a relatively small battery that could drive or even assist when the going got tough.

Given caravans are pretty modular (many of them run on commercially available suspension) it would be neat if someone came up with an EV kit! You probably don't need all the super flash stuff on the van linked below.

The Lightship L1 is a caravan built for EVs that can also power your home - The Verge