Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by Tins

Funny how this stuff is precisely what people protested about oil companies doing many decades ago, but modern day evangelists turn a blind eye to when it suits them.

No cobalt or nickel in my battery.

EDIT: But there is both in the car - when my phone is in there.

if you go to drive.com.au right now - on their news page they have 6/30 of the stories about Toyotas electrification. The stories are "we've been building EV's forever" and "everyone else's EV's are rubbish and ours will be better". Intermixed with more EV concept cars. This seems like marketing have been tasked with dissuading people from "making the jump" to other brands.

Uh oh.

No more lifts from you, James.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

No cobalt or nickel in my battery.

You sure about that? I guess yours could be LFP, but the majority are not.

The company also notes that in the coming years, its absolute cobalt demand will increase, because the production growth of batteries and vehicles is forecasted to outpace the overall rate of cobalt reduction on a per-cell basis.

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As for the phone, I suppose mine does as well, and my cordless tools. All in all I guess I would have about 1/100th of 1% of ONE EV batteries worth of cobalt in my entire home/garage. And absolutely none in my cars. The only batts in them are lead acid.

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Originally Posted by Tins

You sure about that? I guess yours could be LFP, but the majority are not.

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As for the phone, I suppose mine does as well, and my cordless tools. All in all I guess I would have about 1/100th of 1% of ONE EV batteries worth of cobalt in my entire home/garage. And absolutely none in my cars. The only batts in them are lead acid.

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Actually.. the two biggest selling EV's in the country are the BYD Atto 3 and the Model 3 RWD and Model Y RWD and they are all LFP. In the tesla it's only the longrange and performance ones that are NMC.

Personally I really like having LFP as you don't have to sweat charging them to 100%. In fact - Tesla advise you to do that weekly. They are also supposed to be very low degradation.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Actually.. the two biggest selling EV's in the country are the BYD Atto 3 and the Model 3 RWD and Model Y RWD and they are all LFP. In the tesla it's only the longrange and performance ones that are NMC.

Personally I really like having LFP as you don't have to sweat charging them to 100%. In fact - Tesla advise you to do that weekly. They are also supposed to be very low degradation.

BYD are gaining such a good reputation in China.....