Thread: Sydney-Melbourne in an EV is possible.

Originally Posted by Phil B

The way I see it is that this is exactly the issue many will face before EV can become a reality. If you can’t charge them at home from your house supply while you sleep (8 hrs?) what do you do?
I’d love to do a conversion but it’s just not viable until we work out how to significantly increase the range and sort out home charging.
I do about 350km for work on most days which I can’t do with current ( no pun intended) technology.

Current offerings will easily do 400km.
But your wallet will sting to the tune of ~$60k+

Originally Posted by Eevo

thats interesting.
i wonder what temp that batteries freeze

They don't freeze, Mobile phones work in the snow, Sat phones still work on the south pole .

Scandinavia has more EV per capita traan anywhere else but its in frozen darkness for half the year.

They dont like being charged when cold is the problem, Most EV's have thermal management, they pre-warm the batteries before charging.

However Lithium batteries certainly are not as efficient at colder temperatures. My E-Landy uses about 30kwh per 100km in summer and about 33kwh per 100km in winter (no heater) so about 10% less range in winter.

Originally Posted by Phil B

The way I see it is that this is exactly the issue many will face before EV can become a reality. If you can’t charge them at home from your house supply while you sleep (8 hrs?) what do you do?
I’d love to do a conversion but it’s just not viable until we work out how to significantly increase the range and sort out home charging.
I do about 350km for work on most days which I can’t do with current ( no pun intended) technology.

Home charging is a non issue. No special charger is needed just plug into a 10A power point . 2.2kw x 8 hours = 17.6kwh , that will get you 80km in a Tesla. Perfectly adequate for 90% of punters daily commute.

You are the exception If you are doing 350km a day you will want a 10-15kw charger installed .

Originally Posted by goingbush

Home charging is a non issue. No special charger is needed just plug into a 10A power point . 2.2kw x 8 hours = 17.6kwh , that will get you 80km in a Tesla. Perfectly adequate for 90% of punters daily commute.

You are the exception If you are doing 350km a day you will want a 10-15kw charger installed .

I average 200KM a day, and max out around 800KM a day so an EV doesn’t make sense as a daily for me, but I bet nearly every household with a 2 car family could make an EV work as the second car without interrupting their lifestyle at all or putting in a large charger. Biggest hurdle to that at the moment is the initial outlay on that vehicle which is way too high for most families to look at them as an option currently. If they are like us when we were running the kids around, etc the second car was a much cheaper proposition than the main family car. Once the price comes down to a point where they are the same price as an ICE vehicle, I think we’ll see much faster adoption.

Originally Posted by Homestar

I average 200KM a day, and max out around 800KM a day so an EV doesn’t make sense as a daily for me, but I bet nearly every household with a 2 car family could make an EV work as the second car without interrupting their lifestyle at all or putting in a large charger. Biggest hurdle to that at the moment is the initial outlay on that vehicle which is way too high for most families to look at them as an option currently. If they are like us when we were running the kids around, etc the second car was a much cheaper proposition than the main family car. Once the price comes down to a point where they are the same price as an ICE vehicle, I think we’ll see much faster adoption.

Absolutely agree.
This field is progressing so fast I’m sure that issue will be addressed soon if they want to sell EV’s as a viable 2nd car

Hi,
Small EVs as a second car could really help congestion if the annual costs of the ICE left at home were reshaped to reflect usage/time/location of road space.
Cheers

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
Small EVs as a second car could really help congestion if the annual costs of the ICE left at home were reshaped to reflect usage/time/location of road space.
Cheers

run that by me again?

Hi,
Well, we really rent permission to use vehicles on the road, paid in a lump sum every year. And there are discouragemens to let it lapse or do it in 6 month periods.
So like all rented tools, we try and not leave them sitting idle for too long.
Yes/no/maybe?
Governments will have to devise a way to reduce congestion or we will all be gridlocked with people using their rented entitlements rather than using other forms of transport/strategies to commute/travel.
Yes/no/maybe?

Cheers