Thread: Electric vehicles. The problem no one wants to deal with.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

The government supplied boat facilities are state not federal, and are used to justify the registration charges made on the boats. The marina facilities are either charged direct to users as mooring fees, and/or recovered through rental charges to retailers such as the owner of the fuelling facility and the associated shops.

None of the excise ever finds its way from federal consolidated revenue back into boating.

Perhaps some of it does find its way back into used such as my firefighting pump, but definitely not into my lawn mower usage or my backup generator.

The big marina at Manly Qld. is private sector and the bays have strata titles. Many were bought by investors as rental propositions. Many original investors or their descendants still own and rent them. Very high rental returns depending on when the owner bought in. If you have a big expensive boat and need somewhere accessible and secure to keep it, your options are buy a waterfront home with moorings or pay (through the nose) for a marina berth.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

I'm pretty certain that it became impossible to claim back excise on petrol decades ago. Also, it is not any offroad use that can be claimed back, although I don't know the details. But you are right, it is not easy, and you have to be registered, and I think you need an ABN number.

I know nothing about claiming excise back on motor spirit. I do know that when my family business delivered to stations and when we subbied to a commercial carrier (not a mail contractor) we delivered drums of fuel to farms and stations. Some had overhead tanks for petrol. Mostly this was used in their road vehicles which then were Holden-Falcon-Valiant, and the occasional big Humber or Jaguar. This was regarded by the cockies as cheap farm fuel and was their right to use it on the road. I hope this rort has been stopped. I suppose nowadays they use diesel 4WD's as road vehicles and still avoid excise.

Many years ago farm fuel used to be diesel and dyed a different colour, as is still the case in UK.
Many Cockies used to drive 300D Mercedes .

Regards PhilipA

You can claim excise back on fuel used for agriculture, mining and other off road activities. It is done through the tax system with the submission of a BAS Statement

Fuel tax credits - business | Australian Taxation Office

Regards,
Tote

Philip - I thought that was power kerosine?

Tote - drilling down into that shows that you can actually get a return on petrol used off road, although it needs to be used in a business.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Many years ago farm fuel used to be diesel and dyed a different colour, as is still the case in UK.
Many Cockies used to drive 300D Mercedes .

Regards PhilipA

Brisbane City Council bulk fuel was died green. Green stains instead of red around the fuel system could mean dismissal.