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juddy
27th February 2013, 09:53 PM
What about the other hard tops, surveys etc

DT-P38
27th February 2013, 09:59 PM
Someone thought it was worth that. I paid more than that for one of my RAAF Track Tacticals. (You'd have to offer a lot more than that if you want to encourage me to sell it.)

Actually, $12k to $14k for a 4x4 soft top and Cooks trailer I thought was a reasonable price. Can hardly wait until they auction them off in Melbourne.

I'll need to find some storage space first.

I drive by a couple of lines of seemingly stored mog's, hard tops, soft tops and x6'ers (perhaps 20 vehicles total) whenever I drop in at my dads place in Watsonia. And that's just what's visible from the outside of one road around the outside of that one base. Given there are a heap more ADF bases around Vic i would be pretty sure there will be something relatively large happening in Melbourne at some point.

Mick, Aliens drive didn't look full yet when there on the weekend?!? And come to think of it... Pretty sure I could see grass across car size parts of your front yard last time I was there too!!!

Get the cheque book warmed up!

inside
27th February 2013, 10:26 PM
What about the other hard tops, surveys etc

Land Rover Perentie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

100 td
28th February 2013, 10:07 AM
Does anyone have the final prices paid for the 4 unimogs. Last I saw, one was over $60K and the others were around $45K....
Thanks
David

61,109 + 10144 = 71,253 all +REGO & CTP + insurance + transport/pickup
60,009 + 9961 = 69,970
47,909 + 7953 = 55,862
35,009 + 5811 = 40,820

100 td
28th February 2013, 10:18 AM
Last Cooks trailer a whooping $2859 + 475 = $3,334 + Rego/ctp/insurance

weeds
28th February 2013, 10:45 AM
Actually, $12k to $14k for a 4x4 soft top and Cooks trailer I thought was a reasonable price. Can hardly wait until they auction them off in Melbourne.

I'll need to find some storage space first.

i'm still undecided on whats a fair price if/when i bid.......everybody has a different view and justification.

for me its my retirement rig for just the two of use but........i would need to allow for the following on top of the purchase price


convert to hard top.......
install power steering
extend fuel range
de-militarize
respray
and then get it up to touring/overlanding spec
as a mate pointed out it work out better pouring the money into my existing defer.....which is making more sense by the day

weeds
28th February 2013, 10:50 AM
It's annoying how they all disappeared from the auction page, but if you want to check any out, you can just changed the LOT number in the URL.

http:/ /www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-5005418

Change the "0001" number and you will find the rest of the vehicles. (Also, I put a space near the start so it didn't turn into a hyperlink - couldn't figure out how to stop it! Don't copy paste the space.)


Edit: P.S. I didnt buy anything, but the price for a soft top is OK. I might have to convince SWMBO we don't need a roof. :cool:




i took a snap shot at 3:15pm ish for future reference as i had to leave my computer....i only copied the 110 prices. thanks for the tip about going back and having a lok at the final price.....when i have time up my sleeve

Judo
28th February 2013, 11:25 AM
i'm still undecided on whats a fair price if/when i bid.......everybody has a different view and justification.

for me its my retirement rig for just the two of use but........i would need to allow for the following on top of the purchase price


convert to hard top.......
install power steering
extend fuel range
de-militarize
respray
and then get it up to touring/overlanding spec
as a mate pointed out it work out better pouring the money into my existing defer.....which is making more sense by the day
The soft tops don't have power steering?

isuzutoo-eh
28th February 2013, 11:35 AM
None of the fourbies have power steering!

weeds
28th February 2013, 11:42 AM
The soft tops don't have power steering?

nope.....although there might have been one variant that did, was there a short range patrol vehile?

weeds
28th February 2013, 11:44 AM
nope.....although there might have been one variant that did, was there a short range patrol vehile?

it was these i was thinking off Truck, Surveillance, Lightweight, Winch, MC2 (RFSV, Regional Forces Surveillance Vehicle) (231 Vehicles)

if any had them these might have

spudboy
28th February 2013, 12:47 PM
61,109 + 10144 = 71,253 all +REGO & CTP + insurance + transport/pickup
60,009 + 9961 = 69,970
47,909 + 7953 = 55,862
35,009 + 5811 = 40,820

Thanks for that. Not exactly bargain prices :eek:

I was expecting more in the $30K range, so I am obviously way out of touch with reality!

iClick
28th February 2013, 03:09 PM
Does anyone have the final prices paid for the 4 unimogs. Last I saw, one was over $60K and the others were around $45K....

Thanks
David

I passed a mog this afternoon on the Princess Hwy, St Peters. It was being driven by a Female soldier with a civilian passenger - he had a big grin on his face. :D Young bloke too.. would appear to be one of the auction vehicles.

87County
28th February 2013, 04:32 PM
Thanks for that. Not exactly bargain prices :eek:

I was expecting more in the $30K range, so I am obviously way out of touch with reality!

... I dunno - many more yet to be sold :)

justinc
28th February 2013, 06:40 PM
i'm still undecided on whats a fair price if/when i bid.......everybody has a different view and justification.

for me its my retirement rig for just the two of use but........i would need to allow for the following on top of the purchase price


convert to hard top.......
install power steering
extend fuel range
de-militarize
respray
and then get it up to touring/overlanding spec
as a mate pointed out it work out better pouring the money into my existing defer.....which is making more sense by the day


Thats the reason I would only be interested in a 6x6. My 110 turbo Isuzu has more going for it, except the Mil one has the Galv chassis, and lets face it the standard chassis if looked after will last as long as you will be driving the vehicle IME.

JC

Bearman
28th February 2013, 07:10 PM
Right on JC. Judging by those auction prices I reckon ours just went up about $5k in value.:D

justinc
28th February 2013, 07:13 PM
Right on JC. Judging by those auction prices I reckon ours just went up about $5k in value.:D

That's what I like about older vehicles, values go up not down:)

JC

circlework
28th February 2013, 08:50 PM
i took a snap shot at 3:15pm ish for future reference as i had to leave my computer....i only copied the 110 prices. thanks for the tip about going back and having a lok at the final price.....when i have time up my sleeve


If you still want to see the item pages after the auction ends ... like even now, add them to your 'watched items list' in 'My Grays' by pressing the 'Watch This' button on the individual item page ... before the auction ends.
Takes a little time to add all those Landies, but you can still access them all, including all the pics, well after the auction is finished.

Oh, and in case you didn't know, your 'watched items' page refreshes every minute near the auction end, so you can see the progress of all your watched items.
Hope that helps.

Cheers.

Sure is making the old Stage 1 look good!

n36557
1st March 2013, 08:11 AM
Thought you all might like to know I came across an on-line auction (graysoline) a few days ago in Minto that sold some military vehicles. Included in the aution was a couple of the army Unimogs, two 6x6 Macks, a number of atvs, motorbikes, lightweight Landrover trailers and also Landrovers. They sold about ten Landrovers around the 1988-89 model, some with trailers. Included was a 4 door wagon with only about 8000k's on the clock which went for around $19000. There was a 6 x 6 ambulance, a 2 door hardtop and a number of 2 door soft tops, most of which were in good condition with low k's. The 2 door soft tops averaged about $13000. This auction did not appear well advertised. If I here of any more up and coming I will left you all know.

Mick_Marsh
1st March 2013, 08:27 AM
Thought you all might like to know I came across an on-line auction (graysoline) a few days ago in Minto that sold some military vehicles. Included in the aution was a couple of the army Unimogs, two 6x6 Macks, a number of atvs, motorbikes, lightweight Landrover trailers and also Landrovers. They sold about ten Landrovers around the 1988-89 model, some with trailers. Included was a 4 door wagon with only about 8000k's on the clock which went for around $19000. There was a 6 x 6 ambulance, a 2 door hardtop and a number of 2 door soft tops, most of which were in good condition with low k's. The 2 door soft tops averaged about $13000. This auction did not appear well advertised. If I here of any more up and coming I will left you all know.
Thankyou for that.
A few of us may have heard about that.

Lotz-A-Landies
1st March 2013, 12:02 PM
Thought you all might like to know I came across an on-line auction (graysoline) a few days ago in Minto that sold some military vehicles. ...
<snip>
... This auction did not appear well advertised. If I here of any more up and coming I will left you all know.There were only 268 posts on this subect in this thread alone. 122 posts on the REMLR forum and other threads hear and there.

There are too many perentie and military vehicle enthusiasts out there for an auction anywhere not be noticed for more than a few hours.

But thanks for letting us know even if the auction had already closed.

Diana

Sheppie
2nd March 2013, 06:56 PM
Like to get my hands on an m113, As i understand it, the NZ issue was the transfer of the vehicles from NZ to Australia and the US DOD stopping it.
In this case these vehicles would be staying in Australia.
I looked into bringing in an English FV432. Steel version of the M113
My customs broker did the enquiries and as an agricultural piece of machinery there was no problem.
of course this was going to cost $, somewhere in the range of $20K by the time I got it.
my thing is though I know the M113a1 and it is a fun machine, not to bad to work on if youve got the gear and the engines are simple.

have to wait and see

mudmouse
4th March 2013, 08:31 AM
....saw a Unimog and a pair trailers (unknown type) travelling south along the F3, on the back of a drop deck, at about 5.00pm yesterday (Sunday 03/03), so maybe the next sale isn't too far away.

....no sign on M113's though :(

Matt.

circlework
5th March 2013, 10:54 PM
Looks like the next auction is in prep mode ...

Ex-Military - Heavy &#38; Medium Vehicles, Unimogs, Trailers (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5005755/transport-trucks-and-trailers/unreserved-ex-military-heavy-medium-vehicles-unimogs-trailers'spr=true)

No Landies though. :mad:

Cheers.

Lotz-A-Landies
5th March 2013, 11:01 PM
Like to get my hands on an m113, As i understand it, the NZ issue was the transfer of the vehicles from NZ to Australia and the US DOD stopping it.
In this case these vehicles would be staying in Australia.
I looked into bringing in an English FV432. Steel version of the M113
My customs broker did the enquiries and as an agricultural piece of machinery there was no problem.
of course this was going to cost $, somewhere in the range of $20K by the time I got it.
my thing is though I know the M113a1 and it is a fun machine, not to bad to work on if youve got the gear and the engines are simple.

have to wait and seeNo (more) M113 will be sold to the public, the ones here will be turned into gate guards, targets, museum pieces or coke cans, the same as the NZ and Canadian ones. Its a treaty on the sale of US military equipment. If we want F35s or any other piece os US made military hardware we will have to abide by the treaty.

BTW many of the NZ ones were ex-Aussie M113 FSV (Saladin turrets)

BTW there was a FV432 for sale in Perth and another FV437 for sale in Young, but dont know the current status.

Judo
7th March 2013, 08:57 AM
2006 Land Rover Defender TD5 Troopy | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Gold Coast South - Palm Beach (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/palm-beach/cars-vans-utes/2006-land-rover-defender-td5-troopy/1013624771)

huh?! A 2006 TD5 with army paint, bullbar, etc? :confused:

Lotz-A-Landies
7th March 2013, 09:08 AM
2006 Land Rover Defender TD5 Troopy | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Gold Coast South - Palm Beach (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/palm-beach/cars-vans-utes/2006-land-rover-defender-td5-troopy/1013624771)

huh?! A 2006 TD5 with army paint, bullbar, etc? :confused:It's one of the ex-Army remediation Defenders, most if not all were sold off last year for obscene prices.

AFAIK they were all 2000 compliance plated with no A/C and sals rear end or 2003/4 compliance plated, A/C and p38 diffs .

Disco Muppet
7th March 2013, 10:43 AM
2006 Land Rover Defender TD5 Troopy | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Gold Coast South - Palm Beach (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/palm-beach/cars-vans-utes/2006-land-rover-defender-td5-troopy/1013624771)

huh?! A 2006 TD5 with army paint, bullbar, etc? :confused:

That one has been around for quite a while too.

87County
7th March 2013, 03:03 PM
here they are :

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=1871290#post1871290

DT-P38
7th March 2013, 11:29 PM
Dreamers. whose gonna cough up those $'s?

When i saw them on ebay i nearly sent the following paragraph to that Oxley mob.

Wanna sell my 1985 County Spec 110 on consignment ? I would be happy with half what your asking for this ex-army beast. It has only 88,000km's on the odo, FSH, a two inch lift, on road alloys X 5, off road steels X 8, a winch, full length roof rack, rear cargo barrier, 4 doors, a hard roof, 9 seats (all with seat belts), air conditioning, a mega bass stereo system and a 32 inch TV/DVD player. The paint is fresh and there are plenty of late model upgrade and accessory parts all over it.

And i forgot about the power steering too! Oh I took quite a bit of license... The Count is still in pieces awaiting refurb!!! Exciting to think of the possible value in him though? Err probably not. What's that line from "The Castle"?

Tell him he's dreaming.

Disco Muppet
8th March 2013, 01:08 AM
Dreamers. whose gonna cough up those $'s?

When i saw them on ebay i nearly sent the following paragraph to that Oxley mob.

Wanna sell my 1985 County Spec 110 on consignment ? I would be happy with half what your asking for this ex-army beast. It has only 88,000km's on the odo, FSH, a two inch lift, on road alloys X 5, off road steels X 8, a winch, full length roof rack, rear cargo barrier, 4 doors, a hard roof, 9 seats (all with seat belts), air conditioning, a mega bass stereo system and a 32 inch TV/DVD player. The paint is fresh and there are plenty of late model upgrade and accessory parts all over it.

And i forgot about the power steering too! Oh I took quite a bit of license... The Count is still in pieces awaiting refurb!!! Exciting to think of the possible value in him though? Err probably not. What's that line from "The Castle"?

Tell him he's dreaming.

Jeez Dave, I was thinking "Isn't he still building this?" :p
Typical bandwagon hype. Some silly bugger will probably cough up for them. Give it another 2 or 3 rounds and methinks we'll see some perenties at quite reasonable prices.

DT-P38
19th March 2013, 12:52 PM
Oops!

DT-P38
19th March 2013, 12:59 PM
The young tourists I recently met on Smith Street in Collingwood said they paid 16K for this mostly tidy unit. They only had to change brake fluid for Vic RWC and were extremely happy with the purchase.

I think the first ones out are pretty flash if this one is anything to go by. Could be a part of the clearance strategy. If I were looking to buy, I would be inspecting first to be sure the next ones are just as good.

Still think half the cost of this one would be more realistic too.

manic
19th March 2013, 02:50 PM
The young tourists I recently met on Smith Street in Collingwood said they paid 16K for this mostly tidy unit. They only had to change brake fluid for Vic RWC and were extremely happy with the purchase.

I think the first ones out are pretty flash if this one is anything to go by. Could be a part of the clearance strategy. If I were looking to buy, I would be inspecting first to be sure the next ones are just as good.

Still think half the cost of this one would be more realistic too.

It is high but for 16k could you get a better 4x4 to tour remote australia in? As tourists I think they have done well. They can thrash that thing all around the country and then when done turn back and do it all again.

It sounds like registration was a breeze, resale should be easy. Galv chassis, bulkhead and a bullet proof ISUZU is worth a fair bit IMO.

I think they have done well so long as they can put up with the heat and the noise!

usi
19th March 2013, 02:52 PM
Just an update on my purchase for those considering jumping on one

Pay particular attention to the fuel tank they have a 2nd skid/bash plate over the main tank body. Over the years they will have collected a few million bits of sand between the silicone and tank. It had a very small spot of diesel left when parked overnight

I have since drilled out the spot welded plate and removed to show a whole lot of pin holes in the tank i plan on braising these up and refitting

Other than that i checked the oil and took it for a 800k round trip to Batemans Bay with out a drama, no oil leaks :D

manic
19th March 2013, 02:55 PM
Just an update on my purchase for those considering jumping on one

Pay particular attention to the fuel tank they have a 2nd skid/bash plate over the main tank body. Over the years they will have collected a few million bits of sand between the silicone and tank. It had a very small spot of diesel left when parked overnight

I have since drilled out the spot welded plate and removed to show a whole lot of pin holes in the tank i plan on braising these up and refitting

Other than that i checked the oil and took it for a 800k round trip to Batemans Bay with out a drama, no oil leaks :D

Is it the same as this tank -> http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/166853-kbs-tank-sealer-worth-effort-2.html#post1877126

usi
19th March 2013, 02:57 PM
That is the one!

And that isn't a bad little link there either may adapt the original to do a similar job

weeds
19th March 2013, 02:58 PM
It is high but for 16k could you get a better 4x4 to tour remote australia in? As tourists I think they have done well. They can thrash that thing all around the country and then when done turn back and do it all again.

It sounds like registration was a breeze, resale should be easy. Galv chassis, bulkhead and a bullet proof ISUZU is worth a fair bit IMO.

I think they have done well so long as they can put up with the heat and the noise!

i wonder if the car yards are fitting ignition switchs?? + soft tops are not all that secure.........

manic
19th March 2013, 03:06 PM
That is the one!

And that isn't a bad little link there either may adapt the original to do a similar job

They have them on the old 90's part number ESR2242
The perenties use the same part number?

manic
19th March 2013, 03:18 PM
i wonder if the car yards are fitting ignition switchs?? + soft tops are not all that secure.........

Yes it would be well worth putting in some kind of immobiliser. Soft top I suppose not the most secure but you would compensate with lock boxes and blinds. Any car is an easy smash and grab if valuables are on show, a military vehicle with blocked out windows might not look that appetizing.

Blknight.aus
19th March 2013, 06:18 PM
i wonder if the car yards are fitting ignition switchs?? + soft tops are not all that secure.........

the key barrel is a direct swap item, some vehicles have keys and locks, primarily the vehicles from chocko units or high publicity units

DT-P38
19th March 2013, 11:06 PM
i wonder if the car yards are fitting ignition switchs?? + soft tops are not all that secure.........

The tourists told me their unit had no key ignition... I was confused by that when they said it and asked if it was a starter button arrangement with an isolator key elsewhere. They said no... no key at all.
Maybe I should have taken off instead of taking photo's!!!
LOL, ONLY KIDDING!

thedrover
20th March 2013, 12:46 PM
A keyless ignition barrel on LH side of steering wheel. Imagine the key is in there when you turn it, and it starts (and as mentioned, some do have a key that fits there)

Others had a fuse under the bonnet that disables the IP.

Lotz-A-Landies
20th March 2013, 02:43 PM
We need to start fitting noggie locks! :D

Just like they did in SVN, the tab with a hole welded onto the gearstick and a mating tab on the firewall and you locked the vehicle by putting it in reverse and with a padlock to keep it there. If someone was driving an Aussie Land Rover down the road in reverse, when he should have been going forward, you knew he stole it. ;)

MJM
21st March 2013, 09:49 PM
G'day everyone ... Like USI, just picked up one of the soft tops with trailer at the first Auction in Sydney then signed up to the Forum. My son's vehicle but I have been playing with it for the past couple of weeks, yeah it drives like a Truck but bucket loads of character and not sure if I'm gonna give it back to him. Price was pretty good when you compare it to the alternatives like a 15 year old Hilux or similar with 300 thous+ km. Low k's for the age, clean and straight and still pretty tight, bum basic, the Landrover is ideal for an 18 year old who likes the bush. At least I know he isn't going to loose his licence for speeding anytime soon and he can stop over, roll out his swag in the back after those regular teenage parties. Makes my Wrangler look like a toy, should have picked up a soft top for me. So far so good... Mark

justinc
21st March 2013, 10:21 PM
G'day everyone ... Like USI, just picked up one of the soft tops with trailer at the first Auction in Sydney then signed up to the Forum. My son's vehicle but I have been playing with it for the past couple of weeks, yeah it drives like a Truck but bucket loads of character and not sure if I'm gonna give it back to him. Price was pretty good when you compare it to the alternatives like a 15 year old Hilux or similar with 300 thous+ km. Low k's for the age, clean and straight and still pretty tight, bum basic, the Landrover is ideal for an 18 year old who likes the bush. At least I know he isn't going to loose his licence for speeding anytime soon and he can stop over, roll out his swag in the back after those regular teenage parties. Makes my Wrangler look like a toy, should have picked up a soft top for me. So far so good... Mark

THEY ARE A VEHICLE FOR LIFE:):):)


JC

mudmouse
22nd March 2013, 05:57 PM
I see that Cousins mob have dropped the price (a bit) on some of their selections...now under 20k.

Matt.

Sprint
30th March 2013, 02:54 AM
Ex-Military Land Rovers, Unimogs, ATV&#39;s &#38; Motorcycles (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5006043/transport-trucks-and-trailers/unreserved-ex-military-land-rovers-unimogs-motorcycles-atv-s-trailers'spr=true)

new grays listing

JohnR
1st April 2013, 07:14 PM
Hi Guy's, My brother-in-law is interested in a 6x6 ute. Does anybody know what sort of ball park figure these are going for?

Also I heard there was a load of them at a yard in Eagle Farm Brisy. Anybody know anything about these?

He is also keen to talk to someone that know more about them than I do if anyone loves to talk 6x6 Isuzu's???

Cheers,

thedrover
2nd April 2013, 12:54 PM
The REMLR forum seems to be keeping a closer eye on the prices. Check there.

Phoenix
5th April 2013, 02:30 PM
I think an ambulance was the only 6x6 sold so far, and that went for about $30k, but some more basic ones are at the next auction.

circlework
8th April 2013, 10:48 PM
I think an ambulance was the only 6x6 sold so far, and that went for about $30k, but some more basic ones are at the next auction.

~$36500 before buyers premium and GST IIRC, so more like $40K. :(

Judo
9th April 2013, 08:09 AM
Ambulance, 05&#47;1989 Land Rover model 110 6X6. Vin&#58;SALLDMAZ1BF371226. GVM 5,6 Auction &#40;0027-5005418&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0027-5005418)

circlework
9th April 2013, 06:46 PM
Ambulance, 05/1989 Land Rover model 110 6X6. Vin:SALLDMAZ1BF371226. GVM 5,6 Auction (0027-5005418) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0027-5005418)

Oh, did I enter the wrong numbers? Hey, you're getting my expertise for zilch. Exactly what it's worth! :D

brikel
11th April 2013, 10:00 PM
Well here they are again. Ex-Military Land Rovers, Unimogs, ATV&#39;s &#38; Motorcycles (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5006043/transport-trucks-and-trailers/unreserved-ex-military-land-rovers-unimogs-motorcycles-atv-s-trailers'spr=true)

THE BOOGER
12th April 2013, 08:33 AM
prices on the trailers look better, will have a look closer to the closing date might be time for a no5 or raaf trailer:D

Sprint
12th April 2013, 08:00 PM
Land Rover Soft Top - 6&#47;1991 Land Rover 110 4 x 4 Soft Top Auction &#40;0042-5006043&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0042-5006043/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/land-rover-soft-top-6-1991-land-rover-110-4-x-4-soft-top)

oh geez..... time for me to sell my soul.....

Disco Muppet
12th April 2013, 08:15 PM
Land Rover Soft Top - 6/1991 Land Rover 110 4 x 4 Soft Top Auction (0042-5006043) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0042-5006043/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/land-rover-soft-top-6-1991-land-rover-110-4-x-4-soft-top)

oh geez..... time for me to sell my soul.....

What's the go with that one?
Higher roofline, scrub rails, cargo bins in the back....
What gives?

Sprint
12th April 2013, 08:55 PM
dont quote me on this one, but i'm pretty sure its a RFSV - basically the armys idea of how to set up a vehicle to go touring...

edit: it would appear to fit the description of an RFSV.....

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/163262-difference-between-perentie-standard-defender-2.html#post1799140

Brad
12th April 2013, 09:24 PM
invalid thread id error msg on that link (via tapatalk though)

Sprint
12th April 2013, 09:27 PM
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/163262-difference-between-perentie-standard-defender-2.html

second post down on that one.....

circlework
12th April 2013, 10:50 PM
Might stand corrected, but it's an RFSV, missing the rear facing seat, the belt driven air compressor on the donk and the high lift jack on the bull bar.
Can't remember seeing that box on top of the dash though ... any ideas on what that is?

Bearman
13th April 2013, 05:27 AM
Might stand corrected, but it's an RFSV, missing the rear facing seat, the belt driven air compressor on the donk and the high lift jack on the bull bar.
Can't remember seeing that box on top of the dash though ... any ideas on what that is?

RFSV it is, but as you say someone has borrowed the compressor setup and rear seat. Pretty sure the hi lift brackets are on the bullbar, just behind the lift rings.

Sprint
13th April 2013, 05:32 AM
according to the advert it has an ARB compressor....

Bearman
13th April 2013, 05:50 AM
according to the advert it has an ARB compressor....

Probably been replaced with the ARB one instead of the original belt driven twin piston one. If I was going to buy a Perentie :twisted: this is the model I would go for. Has the HD front end as well as the other extras.

Sprint
13th April 2013, 06:10 AM
Probably been replaced with the ARB one instead of the original belt driven twin piston one. If I was going to buy a Perentie :twisted: this is the model I would go for. Has the HD front end as well as the other extras.

hence why my soul, one kidney, one lung and an eye are up for sale.... I'd put one of the family jewels on the market but I dont think I'd get a bidder!

Bearman
13th April 2013, 06:41 AM
Also forgot to mention that it has PS as well. Be interesting to see what it goes for. The speedo looks a bit sus, if it is genuine 50k. The underdrive PTO winch setup alone is worth serious dollars. I am still trying to find one for my 2nd County but they are rare as frogs feathers. Hopefully a few will appear when the parts get sold off.

mark2
13th April 2013, 07:42 PM
What would the electronic device on the inner LH guard be? The bids are already about double those of the basic GS's....:(

mudmouse
13th April 2013, 08:16 PM
Yep. It is. Twin fuel tanks, power steering, air compressor, split rims, normally two rear facing seats in the back, HD springs, more payload than MC version, trip meter on dash, snorkel, north/south jerry can holders x 4.....ummm looks a bit rude, but pretty special. Only delivered 200 odd of them.

...and how about all those No.5 trailers - even one in OD, not Auscam.

Matt.

mudmouse
13th April 2013, 08:18 PM
Might stand corrected, but it's an RFSV, missing the rear facing seat, the belt driven air compressor on the donk and the high lift jack on the bull bar.
Can't remember seeing that box on top of the dash though ... any ideas on what that is?

It's a trip meter.

Matt.

Barefoot Dave
13th April 2013, 08:59 PM
Yep, RFSV it is, and Ex-51 as well! Missing rear seat and tinnie racks, though :-(
Be interesting to see how it sells compared to the Survey from the last round.

Only 1 rear-facing seat in the back. The subsequent SRV(Special Recon Vehicle) has 2, space made by moving the 2additional spares to the LR replacing one of the jerry carriers.

Cheers, Dave.

Bearman
13th April 2013, 09:10 PM
Pity they wouldn't auction a few in Qld. I am even tempted to bid on a couple of the wrecked ones but getting it collected and transport back to here organised would be a nightmare. Would love that RFSV.

Barefoot Dave
13th April 2013, 09:30 PM
Not wrong, Brian. I'm thinking about the(slightly) crunched 6x6. Chop the top and make an LRPV out of it ;-)
BDave

mark2
13th April 2013, 09:30 PM
Pity they wouldn't auction a few in Qld. I am even tempted to bid on a couple of the wrecked ones but getting it collected and transport back to here organised would be a nightmare. Would love that RFSV.

I'm trying to determine if many (any) will be sold out of QLD. At this stage, it looks like Australian Frontline Machinery have set up in Minto and most if not all will only be available for inspection/pickup from there.

Lotz-A-Landies
13th April 2013, 09:49 PM
Sell & Parker started as a NSW company and it appears that for cost reduction they will all be sold from Minto. After all it is an online Auction, given that they come with blue slips, they can mostly be registered or given an unregistered vehicle permit with the blueslip and driven away. What does a Jetstar ticket to Sydney and a train to Minto cost anyway. The Airport line runs to Minto. Network map - CityRail (http://www.cityrail.info/stations/network_map)

Mick_Marsh
13th April 2013, 10:06 PM
Not wrong, Brian. I'm thinking about the(slightly) crunched 6x6. Chop the top and make an LRPV out of it ;-)
BDave
Why not wait for the LRPV's?

Sprint
14th April 2013, 07:06 AM
are you guys seeing an engine bay pic of the rfsv that i'm not getting?

Bearman
14th April 2013, 07:25 AM
are you guys seeing an engine bay pic of the rfsv that i'm not getting?

Look down to the bottom left at additional images.

sheerluck
14th April 2013, 08:17 AM
.............. What does a Jetstar ticket to Sydney and a train to Minto cost anyway........

Your soul in sufferance for all eternity, one kidney and your first born.

Unless you can get it on one of their special offer days, when it'll only cost you $50.

Lotz-A-Landies
14th April 2013, 09:59 AM
Your soul in sufferance for all eternity, one kidney and your first born.

Unless you can get it on one of their special offer days, when it'll only cost you $50.Whatever you pay fo an airline ticket, it's still going to be cheaper than Ceva Logistics.

sheerluck
14th April 2013, 10:26 AM
Whatever you pay fo an airline ticket, it's still going to be cheaper than Ceva Logistics.

Ah, yes. I remember getting a quote from them, and I actually thought that it was for purchasing one of their trucks!

And heaven help you if you what you want to transport has so much as an empty box in there, or if the vehicle is immobilised......:eek:

mark2
14th April 2013, 10:52 AM
Sell & Parker started as a NSW company and it appears that for cost reduction they will all be sold from Minto. After all it is an online Auction, given that they come with blue slips, they can mostly be registered or given an unregistered vehicle permit with the blueslip and driven away. What does a Jetstar ticket to Sydney and a train to Minto cost anyway. The Airport line runs to Minto. Network map - CityRail (http://www.cityrail.info/stations/network_map)


Thanks for that. Looks like I will have to plan a trip. One would like to think they would be up for a 1200km + road trip.

I also have a question regarding payment which I cannot find the answer for on their website. When placing a bid, they require credit card details and I understand that typically Graysonline charges the credit card as soon as the auction is won. However, most people wouldnt have limits on their cards in the order of $10k-15K....
Is there a way to pay a deposit only via cc and pay the balance on pickup?

mudmouse
14th April 2013, 11:23 AM
I had a look at this lot on Saturday. Their 'Order of sale' list says, 'PAYMENT: To purchase via Online Auction you must register with a valid credit card. For invoices totalling less than $5000 your credit card will be automatically debited. For invoices totalling more than $5000 payment by bank direct deposit or bank cheque is required'.

I've counted around 60 Land Rover 110's sold or currently on offer, and the prices seem to be off the boil a bit too. With around 2000 units to go it'll be interesting to see what happens....

Matt.

Barefoot Dave
14th April 2013, 01:11 PM
Why not wait for the LRPV's?

G'day Mick. Why? Because, IF the LRPVs come to auction, there will be GLOBAL interest! I predict a fair condition one will fetch ~$35000 due to the unwelcome high profile that the 'Devil Cars' gained since Slipper and Falconer.

PS all, when I say build one, I mean a replica, NOT a pretender
Cheers, BDave.

usi
14th April 2013, 06:11 PM
Thanks for that. Looks like I will have to plan a trip. One would like to think they would be up for a 1200km + road trip.

I also have a question regarding payment which I cannot find the answer for on their website. When placing a bid, they require credit card details and I understand that typically Graysonline charges the credit card as soon as the auction is won. However, most people wouldnt have limits on their cards in the order of $10k-15K....
Is there a way to pay a deposit only via cc and pay the balance on pickup?

I picked one up in the last lot, You will need a credit card to register an account with Greys
I signed up with a debit visa with zero funds in it

They will send you the details for the direct deposit after you have the winning bid

Mick_Marsh
14th April 2013, 06:28 PM
G'day Mick. Why? Because, IF the LRPVs come to auction, there will be GLOBAL interest! I predict a fair condition one will fetch ~$35000 due to the unwelcome high profile that the 'Devil Cars' gained since Slipper and Falconer.

PS all, when I say build one, I mean a replica, NOT a pretender
Cheers, BDave.
The ambo got about that. I'd expect your estimate to be on the money.
Is there not global interest already?

Barefoot Dave
14th April 2013, 07:57 PM
The ambo got about that. I'd expect your estimate to be on the money.
Is there not global interest already?

Yes Mate. They could go for double that depending on which BIG collectors have reps there. I considered condition vs desirability in price. They will have a lot more than the 30-50K km that the Bloodboxes had.

Cheers, BDave.

Bearman
16th April 2013, 05:32 PM
I am really interested in bidding on one of the incomplete 110's for restoration but as they are not able to be driven and no blue slip I would have to organise a tilt tray or similar to collect and deliver to a transport company who would transport it in this condition. I'm guessing no one would accept it for transport in this condition. Anyone in the Sydney area have any suggestions or ideas on how I could organise this from here (Central Qld coast).

frantic
16th April 2013, 06:09 PM
Try talking to one of the car carriers as they may do it when taking a part load to one of your local dealers. A semi holds 6-7 cars and they may only have an order for 4 or 5 so could winch the LR onto the back spot.
Other option would be to buy both the one you want to repair and another to tow it home , say a 6x6 turbo Isuzu.:D

Lotz-A-Landies
16th April 2013, 10:02 PM
I am really interested in bidding on one of the incomplete 110's for restoration but as they are not able to be driven and no blue slip I would have to organise a tilt tray or similar to collect and deliver to a transport company who would transport it in this condition. I'm guessing no one would accept it for transport in this condition. Anyone in the Sydney area have any suggestions or ideas on how I could organise this from here (Central Qld coast).Find Loads and Trucks from Freight Load Factoring Company, Australia (http://getmeloaded.net.au/)

You may have to pay for a tilt tray at each end if it's still on wheels.

Jitterbug
17th April 2013, 06:42 AM
I am really interested in bidding on one of the incomplete 110's for restoration but as they are not able to be driven and no blue slip I would have to organise a tilt tray or similar to collect and deliver to a transport company who would transport it in this condition. I'm guessing no one would accept it for transport in this condition. Anyone in the Sydney area have any suggestions or ideas on how I could organise this from here (Central Qld coast).

I am thinking the same with the 6x6 - it would cover off most of the bits to complete my engineless 6x6.

I got the engineless 6x6 transported down from Dawin to Brisbane for $1k last year. Not certain who it was with as the guy i bought it off arranged it.

Jitterbug
17th April 2013, 04:10 PM
The rolled 6x6 ended up reaching $8.5k, plus 6% plus gst. Too much when I was only really chasing the engine.

I did get a quote for $1350 door to door delivery - Sydney to Brisbane though. Flat bed all the way as it was undrivable so couldnt go on a regular transporter.

Barefoot Dave
17th April 2013, 04:44 PM
SHENANIGINS, SHENANIGINS!!
The RFSV just jumped from~$14K up to $23k in one bid?!?!?
:eek2::Thump:

BDave

Lotz-A-Landies
17th April 2013, 05:09 PM
SHENANIGINS, SHENANIGINS!!
The RFSV just jumped from~$14K up to $23k in one bid?!?!?
:eek2::Thump:

BDaveNo it had to be at least 2 bids, it just ran up to $23K because the 1st bidder maxed out leaving the 2nd bidder, or it could be the other way around and the 1st bidder is still holding the bid.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/682.jpg

Bearman
17th April 2013, 05:25 PM
Anyone happen to know what the wrecked 110's went for?

brikel
17th April 2013, 05:30 PM
The only one I saw at the end went for $4809

usi
17th April 2013, 05:56 PM
Most of the soft tops went for more than i paid on round 1. Around 4k for the rolled 110s, trailers for near 1k blue slipped

I was a little shocked the market is definitely there! I had a little look at the second batch and they were quite a bit rougher than the first

Did anyone catch what the soft top with the brush bars and rock sliders went for? The twin tanks had me looking twice !

bobslandies
17th April 2013, 06:43 PM
Most of the soft tops went for more than i paid on round 1. Around 4k for the rolled 110s, trailers for near 1k blue slipped

I was a little shocked the market is definitely there! I had a little look at the second batch and they were quite a bit rougher than the first

Did anyone catch what the soft top with the brush bars and rock sliders went for? The twin tanks had me looking twice !

The RFSV - See posts #343-344. Two keen people were after it.

Bob

mudmouse
17th April 2013, 07:00 PM
Yep, it cracked 25k i think. Generally high prices. Wow :eek:

Matt.

brikel
17th April 2013, 07:19 PM
Most of the soft tops went for more than i paid on round 1. Around 4k for the rolled 110s, trailers for near 1k blue slipped

I was a little shocked the market is definitely there! I had a little look at the second batch and they were quite a bit rougher than the first

Did anyone catch what the soft top with the brush bars and rock sliders went for? The twin tanks had me looking twice !
Went for $25909+$1554+$2746=$30209 In my opinion ridiculous

hot rover
17th April 2013, 07:54 PM
This guy must of been desperate for a trailer or it must have a stash of drugs hidden in it somewhere. more money then sence.
Cheers Rod

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/670.jpg

chang
17th April 2013, 08:09 PM
just picked up one of those trailers, although ALOT cheaper than that one :o

Does anyone know whether a off the shelf flat to round pin adapter works with em?

& what adapter/hitch combo will do the job as the pickup time is quite soonish

Mick_Marsh
17th April 2013, 08:16 PM
Does anyone know whether a off the shelf flat to round pin adapter works with em?
No. Use a trailer board. Get one from Supercheap


& what adapter/hitch combo will do the job as the pickup time is quite soonish
A pintle.

hot rover
17th April 2013, 08:27 PM
just picked up one of those trailers, although ALOT cheaper than that one :o

Does anyone know whether a off the shelf flat to round pin adapter works with em?

& what adapter/hitch combo will do the job as the pickup time is quite soonish

They ar a 12 pin NATO plug which are similar but totaly different to a standard civy plug. You can get tintls that mount onto a standard Hayman Reese type tow hitch they are aroung $300

chang
17th April 2013, 09:07 PM
They ar a 12 pin NATO plug which are similar but totaly different to a standard civy plug. You can get tintls that mount onto a standard Hayman Reese type tow hitch they are aroung $300

Thanks mate, Yeah i didnt know whether they were just a 6 pin/7pin small or large off the shelf, or as you said, something alot different.

as for the hook & receiver ive seen the two piece where the hook bolts onto a flange plate for height adjustment & the one piece type that just slides in like the ol towball at a set height etc, how do you reckon it will sit on a disco with 7.5R16's?

If it will sit nice id rather go with the one piece hook/receiver as it looks alot better

Mick_Marsh
17th April 2013, 09:26 PM
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=59315&stc=1&d=1366201307
Can you work out what's going on there?
I'd take some better pics but it's cold outside.

Get yourself a Hayman Reese hitch. The trailer will look good behind the Disco.
Which trailer did you get? A No5 or a 1 ton cargo?

chang
17th April 2013, 09:56 PM
Got a No5, wanted something able to follow me anywhere along firetrails etc & carry the extra gear. I found out how quickly you can fill the back of a disco a couple months back for a good camp trip, had to get others to cart my stuff around.

In regards to the hitch heres a link to what i was thinking
Truck Trailer Tow Hitch Pintle Hook Receiver Bar Combination | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Truck-Trailer-Tow-Hitch-Pintle-Hook-Receiver-Bar-Combination-/120980192577?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2afb3d41)

Mick_Marsh
17th April 2013, 10:04 PM
Yep. That would do it.
You'd probable be better off getting a rotating pintle.
The lunette on the No5 will be fixed. I think there is a way to get it rotating.
The problem with mine is both the pintle and lunette rotate. I believe it's best if the pintle rotates.

THE BOOGER
17th April 2013, 10:51 PM
just picked up one of those trailers, although ALOT cheaper than that one :o

Does anyone know whether a off the shelf flat to round pin adapter works with em?

& what adapter/hitch combo will do the job as the pickup time is quite soonish

a trailer light board and one of these
Truck Trailer Tow Hitch Pintle Hook Receiver Bar Combination | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Truck-Trailer-Tow-Hitch-Pintle-Hook-Receiver-Bar-Combination-/120980192577?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2afb3d41)

edit: didnt see your post same pintle set up

87County
18th April 2013, 11:28 AM
FYI (O&EE or E&OE )

at Grays on 17 April ...

winning bids for 110s with blue slips ...


. the station wagons (both command and personnel carrier types) ranged $11309 to $16209


. the two door (survey-type) hardtop was $17609


. the soft tops (both ffr & gs) ranged from $8009 to $13909


. and that two door with the raised soft top, split rims and extras (Lot 42) was $25909


. (add approx 16% + rego + tp to the above for on-road cost)




there's going to be a lot more 4BD1s running around on the loose !


.

Lotz-A-Landies
18th April 2013, 12:13 PM
Chang
If you're only going to use it behind a Disco, cookie has a Treg hitch that replaces the lunette. I'm sure he'd swap it with you, then you wouldn't have the bump bump bump noise the pintle/lunette connections have.

Treg coupling will fit on a regular towbar and be cheaper than a pintle plus adapter.

Diana

87County
18th April 2013, 12:20 PM
Chang
If you're only going to use it behind a Disco, cookie has a Treg hitch that replaces the lunette. I'm sure he'd swap it with you, then you wouldn't have the bump bump bump noise the pintle/lunette connections have.

Treg coupling will fit on a regular towbar and be cheaper than a pintle plus adapter.

Diana

BTW - there is an alko off road every-which-way hitch for a standard tow ball (heaps better/stronger than a treg).

http://www.alko.com.au/uploads/2008/12/Off-Road-Coupling-Fitting-Instructions.pdf

Lotz-A-Landies
18th April 2013, 12:49 PM
There may be, however a lot of people already have a Treg and the replacement for the lunette that cookie has is for a Treg.

On my D4 I use one of Arthur Goddard's couplings that connect directly to the lunette, but it's not a cheap option even though I don't have to modify my ex-Army trailers.
Diana

chang
18th April 2013, 09:04 PM
Really want to keep it as close to an original setup as possible & with very little time left to get the vehicle end sorted, its the best way to go i think.

narrowed it to either the one on the link below or a 2-piece second hand one in a set position which will still look pretty good. I really dont like the look of the massive adapters with drilled out holes for a million different positions

mikesolo
20th April 2013, 09:29 AM
My treg coupling for a workshop trailer, that has the same chassis.


http://mob1047.photobucket.com/albums/b478/mikesolo1/Ex%20Army%20Trailer/DSCF00a38.jpg

isuzurover
20th April 2013, 12:19 PM
Has anyone been keeping a database of what has been sold off so far and how much? (e.g. one of the mil. groups?)

bobslandies
20th April 2013, 12:52 PM
Has anyone been keeping a database of what has been sold off so far and how much? (e.g. one of the mil. groups?)

Hi Ben,

Yes, REMLR.

One of the difficulties that presents is the GraysOnline auctions can be extended after the supposedly set finish time so it's a bit of a schemozzle to keep track of and it is not really so straightforward as what the final "auction" price (that everyone seem to love to quote in their ignorance) brings as it needs a Buyer's Premium (6%) and GST (10%) added to get the real Sale figure (Not even sure in what order that is calculated - a buyer may be able to explain).

Lots of work for the volunteers there[thumbsupbig]. Only a couple of thousand Land Rovers to go! And the trailers, Unimogs, etc.

Bob

chang
21st April 2013, 05:50 PM
Bidding ends on time if there is no bidding activity upto the close time. If there is bidding within 10 minutes of the close time i think it is, the auction keeps going until there is no bidding activity for 10 minutes straight so its like a live auction.

Final winning price whatever it may be you add 6% premium & then whatever that comes to, add 10% gst


Hi Ben,

Yes, REMLR.

One of the difficulties that presents is the GraysOnline auctions can be extended after the supposedly set finish time so it's a bit of a schemozzle to keep track of and it is not really so straightforward as what the final "auction" price (that everyone seem to love to quote in their ignorance) brings as it needs a Buyer's Premium (6%) and GST (10%) added to get the real Sale figure (Not even sure in what order that is calculated - a buyer may be able to explain).

Lots of work for the volunteers there[thumbsupbig]. Only a couple of thousand Land Rovers to go! And the trailers, Unimogs, etc.

Bob

Lotz-A-Landies
21st April 2013, 09:35 PM
My treg coupling for a workshop trailer, that has the same chassis.


http://mob1047.photobucket.com/albums/b478/mikesolo1/Ex%20Army%20Trailer/DSCF00a38.jpgThe Treg cookey (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/cookey.html) has, you remove the original flange, undo the large nut that holds the lunette in the flange then insert the Treg, do up its large nut and reattach the original flange/Treg to the trailer chassis. Then you throw the undamaged lunette on the shelf for later use or swap it with cookey.

BreakingBad
23rd April 2013, 11:59 AM
Hi Ben,

Yes, REMLR.

One of the difficulties that presents is the GraysOnline auctions can be extended after the supposedly set finish time so it's a bit of a schemozzle to keep track of and it is not really so straightforward as what the final "auction" price (that everyone seem to love to quote in their ignorance) brings as it needs a Buyer's Premium (6%) and GST (10%) added to get the real Sale figure (Not even sure in what order that is calculated - a buyer may be able to explain).

Bob

I got a trailer. Bid price $409. GST $40.90. Buyers premium $26.99.

The 'real Sale figure' is 16.6% more than the Auction price and is the same regardless of the order in which the GST and Buyer's Premium are calculated.

However, Gray's calculate the GST before they calculate the 'Buyers Premium' (otherwsie known as commission).

Lotz-A-Landies
23rd April 2013, 12:29 PM
I got a trailer. Bid price $409. GST $40.90. Buyers premium $26.99.

The 'real Sale figure' is 16.6% more than the Auction price and is the same regardless of the order in which the GST and Buyer's Premium are calculated.

However, Gray's calculate the GST before they calculate the 'Buyers Premium' (otherwsie known as commission).AFAIK if Gray's calculate it in that order they are actually defrauding the tax man of .66% after all the commission is a service.

Judo
23rd April 2013, 01:58 PM
They definitely charge GST on the buyers premium as well. I read it on the Gray's site when I was looking at the first auction in this thread. Otherwise, as you say, they would be in court pretty quickly trying to explain that one...

Sprint
27th April 2013, 12:09 AM
Ex-Military Unimogs, Trucks, Land Rovers, ATV&#39;s &#38; Bikes (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5006257/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-land-rovers-atv-s-motorcycles-trailers'spr=true)

next one coming up

MR LR
27th April 2013, 11:29 AM
Ex-Military Unimogs, Trucks, Land Rovers, ATV&#39;s &#38; Bikes (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5006257/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-land-rovers-atv-s-motorcycles-trailers'spr=true)

next one coming up
Damn now I have competition :(

HowardSmall
7th May 2013, 03:16 PM
Can anybody tell me how much the Perentie FFR and GS went for at the last auction please?

Thanks

Howard

THE BOOGER
7th May 2013, 03:51 PM
Howard these will give you an idea:) not much lower than the first auction unfortunately:(



FYI (O&EE or E&OE )

at Grays on 17 April ...

winning bids for 110s with blue slips ...


. the station wagons (both command and personnel carrier types) ranged $11309 to $16209


. the two door (survey-type) hardtop was $17609


. the soft tops (both ffr & gs) ranged from $8009 to $13909


. and that two door with the raised soft top, split rims and extras (Lot 42) was $25909


. (add approx 16% + rego + tp to the above for on-road cost)




there's going to be a lot more 4BD1s running around on the loose !


.

Barefoot Dave
7th May 2013, 04:04 PM
G'Day Howard. Replace the underscored scored section of the address (/lot/____) below with the lot number 0001- 0065 (ish) and you will get ALL the info you need. From memory the drivable GS/ FFR were lot #35-65ish

ww.graysonline.com/lot/____-5006043/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/land-rover
I hope this helps.
BDave.

HowardSmall
7th May 2013, 05:08 PM
That's great guys - really appreciate it.

Wish we knew for sure how many more are to be released this way so we could get an idea of the way prices may go in future...

Keep drooling over the FFRs but I need to sell my Defender and S2A FFR first :(

Howard

Barefoot Dave
8th May 2013, 08:39 AM
Howard, with around 3000 Perenties delivered to the ADF, there are LLLOOTTSS more to come!
For me, there are about 6 vehicles in the whole fleet that I would bid on, sentimental reasons only.

Take the RFSV ("that strange high-roof thingy with dual tanks", lot 0042)
Whilst it the second only to a SAS LRPV for mods from standard, you could easily build something better for about $10K based on an Isuzu county or even a converted TDi.
It differs from the County mainly in the 4pinnion front diff, split rims and Galv chassis and firewall (as do all Perenties). An isuzu County with rear locker will out perform a Perentie easily.
The remainder of the mods are simply heavier suspension and more storage bins. Mil-Spec in this case (and truthfully, most cases) does not mean 'Un-obtanium' axles/ drivetrain and mystical cross-country ability.
That bit comes with the training ; )

More info here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/163262-difference-between-perentie-standard-defender.html

I don't know your motivation for purchasing, but if you are just looking for a capable bush vehicle, save~$10 000 and go private! I am.
I hope this helps.
BDave

minibloodhound
8th May 2013, 08:59 AM
The remainder of the mods are simply heavier suspension and more storage bins. Mil-Spec in this case (and truthfully, most cases) does not mean 'Un-obtanium' axles/ drivetrain and mystical cross-country ability.
That bit comes with the training ; )

BDave

When I was in the police I used to come across this quite a bit with some of the young blokes who bought "ex-chasers"! Except for a small batch of VKs that were modified by Holden, the only thing the police did was take the hubcaps off!
There were so many blokes that refused to believe us though.

sheerluck
8th May 2013, 09:03 AM
When I was in the police I used to come across this quite a bit with some of the young blokes who bought "ex-chasers"! Except for a small batch of VKs that were modified by Holden, the only thing the police did was take the hubcaps off!
There were so many blokes that refused to believe us though.

I was watching the Kiwi Motorway Patrol the other night, and a young lad had been pulled over because his suspension was too low, and he kept trying to tell the copper that his police car was more modified. The copper replied that it was a standard Commodore, and all they do is put up rated springs in the rear.

Sorry, a little off topic....

HowardSmall
8th May 2013, 02:34 PM
Thanks for your feedback. I am looking at it as a replacement for my current miltary vehicles - Ferret Mk 1/2 and S2A FFR.

I am getting too old to do maintenance in the confined space of the Ferret let alone cope with the weight of armour and I thought the Perentie FFR may be a better ride than the S2A.

On the other hand I have had a new top made for the S2A and ex-RAAF Track Trailer, spent money getting it up to scratch mechanically/electrically (including new wiring loom) and fully roadworthy so not sure about moving it on.

I will probably move the Ferret on, keep the S2A and see what happens over the coming months.

Howard


Howard, with around 3000 Perenties delivered to the ADF, there are LLLOOTTSS more to come!
I don't know your motivation for purchasing, but if you are just looking for a capable bush vehicle, save~$10 000 and go private! I am.
I hope this helps.
BDave

Sprint
8th May 2013, 09:18 PM
When I was in the police I used to come across this quite a bit with some of the young blokes who bought "ex-chasers"! Except for a small batch of VKs that were modified by Holden, the only thing the police did was take the hubcaps off!
There were so many blokes that refused to believe us though.

Its a bit more than that, the parts list and what is done to the BT1/9C1 Commodores is enough to warrant a supplement for the factory workshop manual.....

Depending on the model, examples of the modifications are:
Remapped ECU
Modified auto trans shifter
Different/larger brake pads
Thicker/heavier rated steel wheels with unique wheel nuts and centre caps
Uprated alternator
Auxiliary power harness & fusebox
Dual batteries
VE's are wired up with a piggyback headlight harness to add wigwag functionality to the headlights and taillights
Interior light kill switch
RF management (earth straps, etc)
Calibrated, more finely segmented and suppressed instrument clusters (VT-VX instrument clusters and possibly others have a habit of the speedo rising to 5-10km/h in park/neutral when you rev them hard, an issue that was "fixed" with the police clusters in interests of accuracy)

Not really a whole lot of fun stuff, mostly in the interests of adapting the vehicle to the end users unique requirements, the big appeal for the BT1/9C1 Commodores up untill around the VT era was that they were to all intents and purposes an SS Commodore with executive badges, down to the SS embroidery on the seats and SS badge on the dash, which made insurance a LOT cheaper for the younger male drivers who wanted them....

The garden variety general duties cars generally arent too special in terms of performance, but I've seen three VE Omega police cars, one an in service striped up general duties car, and two pensioned off into private ownership (both detectives/unmarked cars) that were fitted with the higher output SV6 spec engine....

And yes, I know I need to get a life.....

kreecha
9th May 2013, 07:17 AM
Apparently Car Yards think the army Land Rovers are gold plated....

1989 Land Rover 110 County - carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/land-rover-110-1989-14480815?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=4&eapi=2&__N=937%201246%201252%201247%201282%204294965541%2 01216&num=15&silo=Stock&Range=Year%3aMin%2c2000%7cPrice%3a15000%2c30000%7e 1&sort=default)

I know I have paid too much for foolish items in the past.... but really?

I guess there is a demand somewhere.....

MR LR
9th May 2013, 07:35 AM
Apparently Car Yards think the army Land Rovers are gold plated....

1989 Land Rover 110 County - carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/land-rover-110-1989-14480815?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=4&eapi=2&__N=937%201246%201252%201247%201282%204294965541%2 01216&num=15&silo=Stock&Range=Year%3aMin%2c2000%7cPrice%3a15000%2c30000%7e 1&sort=default)

I know I have paid too much for foolish items in the past.... but really?

I guess there is a demand somewhere.....
Problem is they paid too much for them in the first place and are trying to make a profit, I'd be very surprised if it sold, unless someone really wants one and doesn't know about the auctions.

brikel
9th May 2013, 08:12 AM
Problem is they paid too much for them in the first place and are trying to make a profit, I'd be very surprised if it sold, unless someone really wants one and doesn't know about the auctions.
Cousins in Brisbane bought most of them in the first auction. The kilometres they are supposed to have travelled according to the odometers are also rubbish. Grey's auctions had a disclaimer regarding the odometer quotes, but Cousins seems to have omitted this.

MR LR
9th May 2013, 08:34 AM
Cousins in Brisbane bought most of them in the first auction. The kilometres they are supposed to have travelled according to the odometers are also rubbish. Grey's auctions had a disclaimer regarding the odometer quotes, but Cousins seems to have omitted this.

How so?
I am planning to buy one at auction and would like to know what grounds that comment has

Cheers
Will

THE BOOGER
9th May 2013, 08:44 AM
Army landies will almost always have less K,s than civvy one of the same age that will change as they are taken on long trips, but there has been talk that the Odo have been reset at rebuild so it may reflect klm since then not over the life of the truck:)

isuzutoo-eh
9th May 2013, 08:45 AM
How so?
I am planning to buy one at auction and would like to know what grounds that comment has

Cheers
Will

They have all been through the parts pool at least once, so the odo is not necessarily original fitment to that vehicle. And even if it was, the rest of the vehicle might not be original fitment to that odo...

Barefoot Dave
9th May 2013, 08:48 AM
Kreecha, this is not a case of Demand setting the price. As LRJR says, it is the silly purchase price and unreasonable expectation by Retailers of an endless queue of enthusiasts or wannabe (tossers) ready to pay whatever is being asked because it is cammo.
Take the number of supplemental purchase (NOT as is often mis-represented by Retailers as Perentie) TD5 Defender 5 doors, languishing on Forecourts across the country for nearly a year (or more?)! Still with their hopeful $35K+ price tags. They drop a couple of $K every 6-9 months, but have a long way to go before the average punter can justify the Low Ks/ jerry can storage to the Paint/ premium price.

But it's all good, eh?
We (the sensible enthusiasts) have been patient so far (sorta ; )). Let Cousins et al, buy up big and exhaust their budgets, leaving auctions 6-15 to reflect the REAL value of the gear. Deja vu for anyone familiar with the SIII sell off in the '80s.

Cheers, BD ave

kreecha
9th May 2013, 09:26 AM
Kreecha, this is not a case of Demand setting the price. As LRJR says, it is the silly purchase price and unreasonable expectation by Retailers of an endless queue of enthusiasts or wannabe (tossers) ready to pay whatever is being asked because it is cammo.


Agreed,
In reference to post #384 I will work on my sarcasm voice :D

Cheers, Davo.

Barefoot Dave
9th May 2013, 09:42 AM
O I C!
Damnit, we have to come up with a Sarcasm emoticon other than /sarcasm, \sarcasm
; ))
BDave

MR LR
9th May 2013, 10:20 AM
What no one understands is that deep down all of us Landy nuts are a bunch of tightarses that will only pay lots for something if its rare :p

But with 3300 or so Perenties I think we're mostly going to have the patience to wait!

HowardSmall
9th May 2013, 10:36 AM
If you want a laugh, have a look at the video here -

1988 Land Rover 110 Wagon Video - Presented By MOVIE STARS (http://www.cousins.com.au/used_4x4_dealer/video/cousins_used_4x4_dealer/1988_Land_Rover_110_Diesel_Green_4_Speed_Manual_Wa gon/6338641/'stype=CARU&width=867&height=443&modal=false&basic=true&referer=Detail) Page

and see the land rover with "its attractive green exterior is complemented by its stylish interior"

:p

Howard

sheerluck
9th May 2013, 11:17 AM
If you want a laugh, have a look at the video here -

1988 Land Rover 110 Wagon Video - Presented By MOVIE STARS (http://www.cousins.com.au/used_4x4_dealer/video/cousins_used_4x4_dealer/1988_Land_Rover_110_Diesel_Green_4_Speed_Manual_Wa gon/6338641/'stype=CARU&width=867&height=443&modal=false&basic=true&referer=Detail) Page

and see the land rover with "its attractive green exterior is complemented by its stylish interior"

:p

Howard

"It has all the features you could dream of:

Bullbar
And more....."

I don't know about you, but my dreams are a little more wild than that :D

Barefoot Dave
9th May 2013, 11:30 AM
OMFG :Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
The funniest bit, is the script is just that!
Seems to be an 'Enter interior colour here, now enter exterior colour here,' press play and it inserts the words into the standard script!
Guess they didn't pre-record the word 'Camouflage'when they first made it.
Thanks, BDave

brikel
9th May 2013, 12:02 PM
How so?
I am planning to buy one at auction and would like to know what grounds that comment has

Cheers
Will
Have a look at the catalogue that's coming out. Grey's state that the odometer reading does not necessarily reflect the distance the vehicle has travelled. They say that prospective purchasers should examine the documentation to ascertain the true mileage. For reasons given above, even this is not necessarily a true indication either.

HowardSmall
9th May 2013, 12:14 PM
Nah. I think the funniest bit is the call I just got from them advising me that the vehicle does not have A/C but it does have a fan and the mileage quoted is genuine! :o

Howard


OMFG :Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
The funniest bit, is the script is just that!

87County
9th May 2013, 12:22 PM
How so?
I am planning to buy one at auction and would like to know what grounds that comment has

Cheers
Will

G'day Will, caveat emptor (that means don't necessarily believe what you see or what you are told) mate !

As in isuzutoo2's post, many parts incl odos can be expected to have been changed during the service life of the vehicle - if the log book is available it may show this change. At times it would have only taken a flicking speedo needle (for which you or I may have simply lubed the cable) to have caused a new speedo to be fitted.

Advertised ks therefore may or may not reflect the overall distance travelled by the vehicle and should not be taken at face value - obviously some resellers (especially dealers) will attempt to infer that the ks shown are correct.

We know that some parts in them are replacements but in in other cases it would be impossible to know what parts may or may not be what was fitted on the original build.

HTH

87County
9th May 2013, 12:30 PM
......... Deja vu for anyone familiar with the SIII sell off in the '80s.

Cheers, BD ave


I am familiar with the SIII sell off in the early 90s (in Sydney at least) ... AFAIR the price slowly gravitated down to $4k and stayed at that level (condition notwithstanding)

They could then be bought (often with rego) from disappointed purchasers for $2k -$3k.

These were auctions that you needed to actually attend and I left a few feeling disappointed until I was fortunate enough to buy one of those cheaper resales.

MR LR
9th May 2013, 03:44 PM
So I hear they are all keyless ignition, what is everyones thoughts on security (how would you fit a key barrel).

And anyone know if the doors lock?

Jitterbug
9th May 2013, 04:02 PM
At what point in the game do you think they will start get rid of spares? I assume they have a decent number of rotables and I am chasing a 4bd1(t).

Disco Muppet
9th May 2013, 04:06 PM
So I hear they are all keyless ignition, what is everyones thoughts on security (how would you fit a key barrel).

And anyone know if the doors lock?

Key barrel is a direct swap, Dave mentioned that at some point.
The doors on the ones I've seen haven't had locks, not really what you'd want on a military vehicle :p
Could always do a Mr Bean style door lock.

MR LR
9th May 2013, 04:15 PM
Key barrel is a direct swap, Dave mentioned that at some point.
The doors on the ones I've seen haven't had locks, not really what you'd want on a military vehicle :p
Could always do a Mr Bean style door lock.

Cheers Muppet

Land rovers might be flat and have rivets, but is a garden shed door lock really acceptable? :p

Maybe there are reproduction NAS door locks (their 90's had half doors) or even some half door locks you can buy (that suit the key you get).

Cheers
Will

THE BOOGER
9th May 2013, 04:18 PM
Who needs door locks anybody with a blunt knife can enter through the soft top or undo the straps at the back:D

Disco Muppet
9th May 2013, 04:29 PM
Who needs door locks anybody with a blunt knife can enter through the soft top or undo the straps at the back:D

All the hard-tops i've seen have had the rear door secured by rope.
This was the main reason I didn't buy one as my daily drive, I'm slightly paranoid about vehicle security :p

87County
9th May 2013, 04:44 PM
So I hear they are all keyless ignition, what is everyones thoughts on security (how would you fit a key barrel).

And anyone know if the doors lock?

Would you put a key-lock on your rifle ?


the reality is that the army needed them useable without having to go looking for whoever had the keys in their pocket

the soft top 110s are entirely keyless...... doors, ignition, steering & fuel tank

the toolboxes are opened by a square key carried in a fixture on the inside of the driver's door

I think from memory that the station wagon types with the defender doors had key lock barrels in the doors, but I would guess that no keys would be available for them either.

Ser 3 key locks can be installed - the soft tops had the Ser 3 burst proof door locks retro fitted

Dizza
9th May 2013, 04:52 PM
If i had any money at all i can tell you exactly where it would be headed right now...

Mick_Marsh
9th May 2013, 04:58 PM
At what point in the game do you think they will start get rid of spares? I assume they have a decent number of rotables and I am chasing a 4bd1(t).
It's already been happening for some time.
Boxes of spares have been going through Manheim. Often listed as scrap.

Blknight.aus
9th May 2013, 05:46 PM
the door can be retrofitted with a door lock with key from a defender.

Pretty sure tho that most thieves who'd steal one would get about halfway up the block before deciding to lap it and put it back where it came from along with a 5er and a note under the wiper blade reading "sorry, I dont know what I was thinking".

I'm assured that "its only dumbasses like you farey, that have no social etiquette, style or grace, that would consider one of those as an acceptable daily driver"

On that basis, Once I have mine the rest of them are safe.

MR LR
9th May 2013, 05:54 PM
I want to put a truck cab on one and probably a tray back, is that a good enough reason to want door locks and an ignition?

There aren't gonna be 3300 people who want to buy one and shove it in a shed to only see the light of day at military parades. I want to build one into a tough, dependable touring ute.

Cheers
Will

THE BOOGER
9th May 2013, 06:08 PM
Breath mate breath, nothing wrong with locking things up just not what normally worries people with soft tops:)

Bearman
9th May 2013, 06:40 PM
It's already been happening for some time.
Boxes of spares have been going through Manheim. Often listed as scrap.

Where

Disco Muppet
9th May 2013, 06:50 PM
If I was going to use one as a daily driver I'd just leave the TC in neutral whenever I parked it up.
How many car thieves do you think are smart enough to think of that, unless they're fully pro car thieves. In which case they're not going to be after a perentie :p

Mick_Marsh
9th May 2013, 07:21 PM
Where
I understand now why you haven't seen any.


"Manheim"

Bearman
9th May 2013, 07:38 PM
Just wondering where (what cities). I did see the name:eek:

Mick_Marsh
9th May 2013, 08:20 PM
Just wondering where (what cities). I did see the name:eek:
Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Townsville. At least, they're the ones I look at.
A couple of years back I picked up some centre seats from the Td5 Defenders that were auctioned off and a Track trailer.
All the other stuff I've bided on, I didn't win. I've mostly bided on picks an shovels but I did bid on a pallet of mirrors and a few pallets of filters.

mark2
10th May 2013, 05:35 PM
G'day Will, caveat emptor (that means don't necessarily believe what you see or what you are told) mate !

As in isuzutoo2's post, many parts incl odos can be expected to have been changed during the service life of the vehicle - if the log book is available it may show this change. At times it would have only taken a flicking speedo needle (for which you or I may have simply lubed the cable) to have caused a new speedo to be fitted.

Advertised ks therefore may or may not reflect the overall distance travelled by the vehicle and should not be taken at face value - obviously some resellers (especially dealers) will attempt to infer that the ks shown are correct.

We know that some parts in them are replacements but in in other cases it would be impossible to know what parts may or may not be what was fitted on the original build.

HTH
Speedo readings aside, there are a number of clues that at least two of the current offerings have been through the Tenix rebuild process.

One of the soft tops also has a different roll bar set up, with braces on the rear hoop and and structural upper longitudinal bars (not canopy bars) connecting the front and rear hoops. I've seen pictures of this configuration being tested (which would be a lot stronger than the typical arrangement) but to date this is the only one I've seen come through the auctions with this type of roll bar/rear cage.

carlschmid2002
11th May 2013, 10:54 PM
If I was going to use one as a daily driver I'd just leave the TC in neutral whenever I parked it up.
How many car thieves do you think are smart enough to think of that, unless they're fully pro car thieves. In which case they're not going to be after a perentie :p

The vehicles used by the RSFU (Regional Force Surveillance Units) 51 FNQR, NorForce and the Pilbara Regiment had keys. It was one key fits all. they also had power steering, snorkels, split rims and bigger fuel tanks. I know this because the display vehicle got nicked one night from the Cairns Show. It had to have been a reserve member or ex reserve because a key was used. They all had the same key. If these vehicles come up for auction they are the ones to get.

bond
13th May 2013, 08:38 AM
Are they only going to be sold out of the Minto/NSW warehouse?

Barefoot Dave
13th May 2013, 11:00 AM
The vehicles used by the RSFU (Regional Force Surveillance Units) 51 FNQR, NorForce and the Pilbara Regiment had keys. It was one key fits all. they also had power steering, snorkels, split rims and bigger fuel tanks. I know this because the display vehicle got nicked one night from the Cairns Show. It had to have been a reserve member or ex reserve because a key was used. They all had the same key. If these vehicles come up for auction they are the ones to get.

S'funny how the memory goes. I have no clear recollection if there was a keyed ignition on delivery or if it was a later mod?!
SOP was always to de-fuse the edict switch under the bonnet and remove vital bits if there were others in the Area. Was always good sport to find another patrols cached vehicles and leave a 'BOOM' note on the steering wheel.
Don't ask what other boredom relieving activites have developed in a LUP over 6 days. A 9volt and repellent spring to mind :twisted:

Buying an RFSV for its key is an exxy way of going about it. See my previous posts about the comparitive value of the RFSV. Remember, these more than any other Perentie have been operated on the worst roads and conditions (salt flats etc) and are most prone to Suspension damage, chassis cracks and corrosion. Patrol speed is rarely ~5k/h. It is fast enough to drive through an ambush before they can initiate. Ally and canvas aint 'hardened'.
Had a mate brass up (blanks) a Blue 3/4 cav M113 protected VCP that we hadn't been told about as they popped out of a creek dip at speed and performed an 'Oh S**t' u-turn!
Had to go and prostrate (literally!) ourselves to get his webbing back that had slid off the windscreen as they turned. Kiwi buggers had it all spread out and divvying it up when we got there : ))
Cheers, BDave.

DT-P38
13th May 2013, 11:34 AM
Hello there!

Haven't been online here for a while, so may have missed something, but I have seen a number of these Clearance Auctions reported as Manheim and some as Gray's and even gooled to find a link to Pickles?

There is probably an overall schedule I should be aware of by now... but I'm not! Can anyone help?

PM me if you don't want to broadcast it. Its for personal reference and interest only, I will not be forwarding it (well not outside AULRO users anyway!) or planned (:angel:) purchasing of anything.

I guess that should mean I am not a threat to any serious collectors/bargain hunters.


Thanks in hopeful advance!

Mick_Marsh
13th May 2013, 12:06 PM
Hello there!

Haven't been online here for a while, so may have missed something, but I have seen a number of these Clearance Auctions reported as Manheim and some as Gray's and even gooled to find a link to Pickles?

There is probably an overall schedule I should be aware of by now... but I'm not! Can anyone help?

PM me if you don't want to broadcast it. Its for personal reference and interest only, I will not be forwarding it (well not outside AULRO users anyway!) or planned (:angel:) purchasing of anything.

I guess that should mean I am not a threat to any serious collectors/bargain hunters.


Thanks in hopeful advance!
Sorry Dave. I could tell you, but I'd have to shoot you.
Try googling Frontline. They're on Greys.
Don't bid on the ones I'm bidding on.

brikel
13th May 2013, 12:27 PM
Australian Frontline Machinery Home | Australian Frontline Machinery (http://australianfrontlinemachinery.com.au/home-duplicate'sid=1396)
has the contract to sell all the ex army vehicles. They are based at Minto NSW. Only a few of the heavy trucks are to be sold eslewhere. If you intend to buy anything, you really need to inspectr it. If you can't go yourself perhaps someone you know who lives in or near Sydney could do it for you.

bond
14th May 2013, 01:27 PM
I'm pretty keen to get a vehicle+trailer, interested in the feasibility of flying up and driving back (quotes on sending a trailer are horrific)

Is it just a matter of getting two unregistered vehicle permits (one for the trailer) from the NSW RTA for driving from Minto to a workshop in Melbourne? or would I better using VIC UVPs? (NSW UVP's require a NSW license?)

BreakingBad
14th May 2013, 03:46 PM
I'm pretty keen to get a vehicle+trailer, interested in the feasibility of flying up and driving back (quotes on sending a trailer are horrific)

Is it just a matter of getting two unregistered vehicle permits (one for the trailer) from the NSW RTA for driving from Minto to a workshop in Melbourne?

YES, it is as simple as that. They are approx $20 each.


or would I better using VIC UVPs? (NSW UVP's require a NSW license?)

NO. The unregistered vehicle permit needs to be issued by the road authority from where you begin your journey. There is no need for a NSW license.

bond
14th May 2013, 04:02 PM
Would the trailer need a safety check inspection report for the UVP?

87County
14th May 2013, 04:09 PM
Would the trailer need a safety check inspection report for the UVP?

The last lot of trailers had "blue slips" provided - I have not looked at the listing this time to see if they have - a simple phone call to the enquiry number and they would be able to tell you.


.. just took a look - at least the ones I looked at have the "blue slips" this time too....

carlschmid2002
14th May 2013, 08:19 PM
S'funny how the memory goes. I have no clear recollection if there was a keyed ignition on delivery or if it was a later mod?!
SOP was always to de-fuse the edict switch under the bonnet and remove vital bits if there were others in the Area. Was always good sport to find another patrols cached vehicles and leave a 'BOOM' note on the steering wheel.
Don't ask what other boredom relieving activites have developed in a LUP over 6 days. A 9volt and repellent spring to mind :twisted:

Buying an RFSV for its key is an exxy way of going about it. See my previous posts about the comparitive value of the RFSV. Remember, these more than any other Perentie have been operated on the worst roads and conditions (salt flats etc) and are most prone to Suspension damage, chassis cracks and corrosion. Patrol speed is rarely ~5k/h. It is fast enough to drive through an ambush before they can initiate. Ally and canvas aint 'hardened'.
Had a mate brass up (blanks) a Blue 3/4 cav M113 protected VCP that we hadn't been told about as they popped out of a creek dip at speed and performed an 'Oh S**t' u-turn!
Had to go and prostrate (literally!) ourselves to get his webbing back that had slid off the windscreen as they turned. Kiwi buggers had it all spread out and divvying it up when we got there : ))
Cheers, BDave.

The RSFV's also had rear disk brakes and long range tanks. I hear what you are saying about copping abuse, but they do have a few good bits.

isuzutoo-eh
21st May 2013, 04:07 PM
Pat Callinan's 4x4 Adventure magazine are roadtesting some Landies going through the auctions, this photo was posted on their facebook page:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/417.jpg (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/random/965894_657085547639868_517352094_o_zps862f2b0c.jpg .html)

Good onya Sambo

LowRanger
21st May 2013, 04:09 PM
Pat Callinan's 4x4 Adventure magazine are roadtesting some Landies going through the auctions, this photo was posted on their facebook page:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/417.jpg (http://s418.photobucket.com/user/Burra2a/media/random/965894_657085547639868_517352094_o_zps862f2b0c.jpg .html)

Good onya Sambo

Sam is even getting into that Callinan look:D

303gunner
1st June 2013, 03:43 AM
The Northern Territory auction has just been listed, starts 13/06 ends 19/06.

Ex-Military Unimogs, Trucks, Landrovers, ATV&#39;s &#38; Trailers (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5006610/transport-trucks-and-trailers/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-landrovers-atv-s-trailers'spr=true)

Landy Smurf
1st June 2013, 09:21 AM
it will be interesting too see what these ones go for

Xtreme
1st June 2013, 09:40 AM
it will be interesting too see what these ones go for

My thoughts also.
But it appears that they have severly restricted the number on offer, probably to maintain competitive bidding.

Bearman
1st June 2013, 11:07 AM
Eventually everyone who wants one will have one and then they are going to find it hard to move them I reckon. Prices should start coming down then. I see Cousins are still trying to resell the ones they bought but they don't seem to be moving.

Landy Smurf
1st June 2013, 11:11 AM
yeah the novelty of them i think will wear off pretty quick.
the soft tops are very impracticable unless you convert them to a hardtop

thedrover
1st June 2013, 12:59 PM
I think the novelty will wear off at huge prices...

But once they become affordable, interest will increase. How many people say they would buy, but at a lower price?

goingbush
1st June 2013, 01:04 PM
got a wave from one the other day out of Croydon on the way to Normanton,
dusty way to tour I think. (look like WA plates ??)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/1532.jpg

Disco Muppet
1st June 2013, 01:31 PM
got a wave from one the other day out of Croydon on the way to Normanton,
dusty way to tour I think. (look like WA plates ??)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/1532.jpg

That's one of the RFSV ones too.
Given the number of perenties they're trying to shift, it won't be too long before the prices start dropping.
Then, I will be VERY interested :twisted:

Landy Smurf
1st June 2013, 01:40 PM
I think the novelty will wear off at huge prices...

But once they become affordable, interest will increase. How many people say they would buy, but at a lower price?
I would buy one if they were equal or cheaper then civilian with the same kms etc

Barefoot Dave
1st June 2013, 01:49 PM
And so it begins...
The great confusion as (even a couple of years down the track) many units will still be operating the same vehicles driven by a lot of civvies :(

That looks to me light the Delta Dogs (DCoy51FNQR) heading out on patrol!
Note;
Hession skirts attached to the brush/ bull bars (rolled up and held in place by occys/ rubbers cut from tubes)
ROPS visible behind driver confirm ID as an RFSV
Looks like SRV-style cam pole/ junk holders attached to the tub abover the rear wheels.
Hmmm. Odd though, No spares on the ROPS wheel brackets (inside) :confused:
The plate looks mil, Sure it was WA reg? looks like it could be 51-6..
If it wasn't in service, then they are sadder than me, even :D

Cheers, BDave.

Mick_Marsh
1st June 2013, 02:00 PM
And so it begins...
The great confusion as (even a couple of years down the track) many units will still be operating the same vehicles driven by a lot of civvies :(

That looks to me light the Delta Dogs (DCoy51FNQR) heading out on patrol!
Note;
Hession skirts attached to the brush/ bull bars (rolled up and held in place by occys/ rubbers cut from tubes)
ROPS visible behind driver confirm ID as an RFSV
Looks like SRV-style cam pole/ junk holders attached to the tub abover the rear wheels.
Hmmm. Odd though, No spares on the ROPS wheel brackets (inside) :confused:
The plate looks mil, Sure it was WA reg? looks like it could be 51-6..
If it wasn't in service, then they are sadder than me, even :D

Cheers, BDave.
Possibly. Do serving vehicles have registration labels?

goingbush
1st June 2013, 02:03 PM
I see your point, looks Army to me too, but would not have thought an Army dude would wave at a White Defender towing a Caravan , will see if there is a clearer frame on the dashcam to post.

also when it drove past the Tyres sounded louder than the truck, almost like bar treads :confused:

Barefoot Dave
1st June 2013, 02:23 PM
Mick, I was looking closely at that as well. Incongruous. Blknight might be able to ID if it is a mil sticker of some sort. It seems the wrong dimensions to me. If not Mil, then Parks access type sticker or something (but the Army doesn't need those).

Bushie, When I was in the drivers seat, I did plenty of waving!
Remember, RFSVs are driven by locals in Cams:D search 'RFSU' for explanation.

Cheers, BDave

Disco Muppet
1st June 2013, 02:30 PM
also when it drove past the Tyres sounded louder than the truck, almost like bar treads :confused:

Don't the RFSVs have Hi-Milers?
Could explain the noise :p
Definitely looks like WA plates to my eyes, but I could be wrong :)

goingbush
1st June 2013, 02:58 PM
cant get a better pic, but here is the clip (2.4mb) you can hear the tyres when it leaves view (and I had my window closed)

http://goingbush.com/landy/army110.mp4

thedrover
1st June 2013, 06:38 PM
No they don't have rego stickers.

Bet $50 it's a 'restricted use' sticker! It may say something like 'restricted to 80km/h' due to either old tyres or noise.

goingbush
1st June 2013, 07:36 PM
No they don't have rego stickers.

Bet $50 it's a 'restricted use' sticker! It may say something like 'restricted to 80km/h' due to either old tyres or noise.

it would have been pushing 110 I think.

Barefoot Dave
1st June 2013, 07:46 PM
Ooooh yeh, That Hi-Miler hum :D
s'funny when people compare a Fender to a Disco and refer to noise.
I've done too many kays than I care to recall sans roof/ windscreen a tuning out the hi-miler vibe. just a little bit de-sensitised ;)
BDave.

Blknight.aus
1st June 2013, 09:14 PM
The yellow sticker us the newer restricted use sticker.

Via the modern day equivalent to smoke signals fromsome place other than the cave where my hat hangs.

UncleHo
2nd June 2013, 08:15 AM
Yeah!those Hi- Miler Extra Grip sound a lot like those wonderful Bar Treads from yesteryear!

Most of the Perenties I saw yesterday had those dreadful "Steel Trek" easy blows on them

brikel
4th June 2013, 07:49 PM
Coming to a place near you Brisbane! June 20 - June 26 thyere will be an auction in Brisbane of 4x4s, 6x6s and trailers. Link Showroom | Australian Frontline Machinery (http://australianfrontlinemachinery.com.au/new-showroom) At last those of us here will have a chance to inspect what's on offer

Barefoot Dave
5th June 2013, 11:26 AM
Given the lack of Trucks/lightweight/ MB at Porton Depot in Cairns, I wouldn't get my hopes up about a flood of RFSVs anytime soon : (
BDave

Brad110
6th June 2013, 02:59 PM
The engine and canvas flapping provide the background ambience and tyres of choice the chorus.

It saves on fitting a sound system.

Seriously the combination is quite fatiguing on a long haul.

But if the other option is walking or the back of a Mog or worse Mack, it's a good option.

Barefoot Dave
11th June 2013, 09:42 AM
Brad, stop it.
I'm getting all misty and sentimental ; )

As I didn't do much explosives or DFSW work, I strongly believe my tinitis is caused by the above : ))
Dave.

weeds
18th June 2013, 09:58 AM
i work around the corner from where these babies are being auctioned........i will be going for a bo peep on friday but they are out of my price range

if anybody wants me to check over any particular one let us know.......

87County
18th June 2013, 05:24 PM
..


now they're advertising them everybody will want one !

(copied from remlr.com forum & ARMY magazine )

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1305.jpg (http://s708.photobucket.com/user/87county/media/LandRoversforsale_zps60e65f48.jpg.html)

Travis
18th June 2013, 06:07 PM
Does anyone know what the 6x6 tray tops are going for?

Barefoot Dave
18th June 2013, 06:13 PM
Travis, plain tray tops are going for more than those with Fittings (Seats, storage racks etc).
Plain $25-30K
Fitted $20-25K
BDave.

Landy Smurf
19th June 2013, 03:57 PM
well the 6x6 only got 14k this time. the trailers were down quite a bit too.
I wonder why

isuzutoo-eh
19th June 2013, 04:13 PM
Hey Smirfy that lot were in NT, probably why prices were down, the 6by is going to WA judging by the top bidder.

Landy Smurf
19th June 2013, 04:36 PM
Yeah I know, I was thinking I could get a few trailers but the fuel and travel would not be worth it and what would I do with 2 trailers

strangy
19th June 2013, 04:44 PM
Mate of mine is happy with one of the number 5 trailers.

Just missed one of the Mogs. Maybe next time.

Barefoot Dave
20th June 2013, 04:21 PM
Weellll, Minto has another RFSV and now an SRV (damaged though)!
Will be interesting to see if a bidding war starts for the 'Commando' vehicle (mainly Adgies and Recon).
Brisbane doesn't havve much to offer other than a few double up photos of IIMVs (same photos for different vehicles).

Cheers, BDave.

Barefoot Dave
20th June 2013, 04:37 PM
hmm, interesting.
I now change my call on the ID of that vehicle spotted on the highway up north.
I now call SRV.
Additional hoop in the ROPS, clear view behind the driver would would mean removed or laid down seats as the spares are on the LR of the tub and cam pole / bush crap baskets on the side are standard.
What an SRV is doing up there is the question?!
On ex?

Cheers, BDave.

brikel
20th June 2013, 05:08 PM
Will be interesting price-wise with all the 4x4 and 6x6 available in Brisbane, Townsville and Minto all at the same time.

weeds
21st June 2013, 11:10 AM
i popped down to mainly have a look at the incompleted ones, these two are ex-timor........

they were more disassembled than i thought they were going to be although it appears all the bits are sitting in the cargo area. this disappointing thing is they didn't refit the air cleaners, one fuel tank cap was not screwed on.

i had a quick look over the other, started three of them, they were in pretty good nick really esp. the chassis

there were a few keen guys armed with torches going over them with a fine tooth comb

had a quick look at the 6x6's as i spent a lot of time driving them.....two of these are ex-timor as well from memory but they haven't stated this on the website

anyway i will watch two vehicles on the auction page

the trailer surprisingly had matching off set on the wheels.....maybe the ADF has sorted this out now

UncleHo
21st June 2013, 10:19 PM
Going down for a lookie tomorrow AM with another member,and had a squiz at the website tonight,some of those 6x6's are kinda cheap on the site! but I know what the one's at Cousin's are priced at !!!

cheers

Disco Muppet
21st June 2013, 10:33 PM
Weellll, Minto has another RFSV and now an SRV (damaged though)!
Will be interesting to see if a bidding war starts for the 'Commando' vehicle (mainly Adgies and Recon).
Brisbane doesn't havve much to offer other than a few double up photos of IIMVs (same photos for different vehicles).

Cheers, BDave.

Dave
Which one is the Commando one?
Cheers
Muppet

UncleHo
22nd June 2013, 04:40 PM
Well I went down this morning, and we had a good look around, and there are a couple he will be watching with interest,and checked out a couple of the disassembled ones,cleaners/AQIS had done a good job on one's wiring harness,lot of hours re-wrapping that one,all in all most were OK canopies varied from good to 18 months if lucky ;) the 6x6's were interesting particularly the ones with weapon mount ring, I will keep my eye out for when the Blood Boxes come up,about 8 of them I think,nice mobile campers,bed-s :D looks like A/C and wind up windows.

watching a couple of No 5's,can't afford a Cooks :(

Gent with O/seas accent interested in Qty buy.

goingbush
23rd June 2013, 04:24 PM
on the way to, or from an auction ??

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/308.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/309.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/06/310.jpg

Barefoot Dave
26th June 2013, 08:11 AM
G'day mate.
I referred to it as the 'Commando' due to public perception being only the Commandos had a Perentie with wheels hanging off the back.
I think this vehicle is an 'RFSRV', a hybrid or upgraded RFSV. It has the standard layout of the RFSV but with the extra 2spares moved to an SRV carrier on the left rear.
It also has an additional roll cage hoop approx 600m rear of where the original was.
These additions would make it a safer ride for the back seat passenger and also offer better field of view for covering of arcs. The old layout promoted tunnel vision to the rear.
All the SRVs that I have seen also incorporate a gun ring above the rear pax seat in their, much extended, ROPS.
I'm intrigued now, the more I look, the more I find.
BDave.

sheerluck
26th June 2013, 02:02 PM
.......It also has an additional roll cage hoop approx 600m rear of where the original was.......

Either you've missed an "m" out there BD, or those vehicles are somewhat larger than I thought :eek:

Barefoot Dave
26th June 2013, 04:09 PM
Sheer luck, 51 FNQR patrol SOPs require the following vehicle to be no closer than 599m behind the first, hence 600m.:p:D
Thanks for the correction! yes, 600mm

Update: Bugger snipers in the Field, Sir.
Just been pipped to the gavel on that 'RFSRV', $10k and rising...

The other, standard RFSV went for $15 109, that's $10k less than the first one! Interesting!

Cheers, BDave.

S12A
28th June 2013, 01:00 PM
i am the new owner of this one;

1988&#47;09 Land Rover 110 4X4 soft top Auction &#40;0018-7003685&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0018-7003685/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/1988-09-land-rover-110-4x4-soft-top'redirect=0)

picking up on monday , have lock barrels that showed up today and hopefully i dont need to do much more, putting in a barrier between the cab and the back so it is secure enough when i fit the locks.

pretty excited actually , first land rover i have had for 3 yaers (had a 2001 130 Cab chassis)

Mick_Marsh
28th June 2013, 01:43 PM
i am the new owner of this one;

1988/09 Land Rover 110 4X4 soft top Auction (0018-7003685) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0018-7003685/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/1988-09-land-rover-110-4x4-soft-top'redirect=0)

picking up on monday , have lock barrels that showed up today and hopefully i dont need to do much more, putting in a barrier between the cab and the back so it is secure enough when i fit the locks.

pretty excited actually , first land rover i have had for 3 yaers (had a 2001 130 Cab chassis)
Congratulations and welcome to the forum.
You should pop on over to the REMLR forum.
Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers - Index (http://remlr.com/forum/)
They'd love to see photo's of your recent purchase as would we.

S12A
28th June 2013, 02:43 PM
Congratulations and welcome to the forum.
You should pop on over to the REMLR forum.
Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers - Index (http://remlr.com/forum/)
They'd love to see photo's of your recent purchase as would we.


thank you for the welcome!

i will put up a bunch of photos in a thread and chuck a link in here on monday, getting it inspected and hopefully registered up in brisbane when i pick it up. hoping that all goes smoothly.

cheers

anthony

S12A
1st July 2013, 04:12 PM
So all went fairly smoothly.
Rego inspection passed with 0 problems, very stiff going into gear and was actually disconnected when we picked it up, grays staff were pretty helpful with tools etc to fix it.
Got it home and was going to disconnect the battery until i picked it up and the cable snapped just behind the terminal so gotta fix that.

Overall it drives well and it gives me a little bit of a project to clean up!
Will have better photos asap so please excuse this one;

29dinosaur
1st July 2013, 04:36 PM
Spotted one in Mittagong - watch out for it if you're in South Australia.... see my post here. (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/177384-ex-military-county-110-county-angry-anderson-transit-bordertown-sa-heads-up.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/1619.jpg

S12A
1st July 2013, 08:56 PM
Awesome photo 29dinosaur

Beach
2nd July 2013, 08:50 AM
Hello all and congratulations to those that have purchased an ex-military Rover.

I went to the latest auction at Minto as a mate really wanted one of these. I managed to convince him to have a good look before he parted with his hard earned.

I have to say, some of what I saw scared me a little. More than a few of these vehicles are just not road worthy and should never be passed. A few new owners might be up for some big bills in the near future.

Lot 65 is a good example, with some very obvious rust holes in the pillar near the hinge of the passengers side door.

The modified (high roof) FFR listed as "surveillance vehicle" gave us a good laugh. It might have been our eyes, but standing in front, it looked like some part of it was seriously bent on the left hand side. One to many drops from C-130's perhaps?

Anyway, I hope it all goes well for the proud new owners, but these vehicles have had a very hard life and it looked to me like very few of them could pass as road worthy.

29dinosaur
2nd July 2013, 09:27 AM
Well here's one that really enjoyed his first day as a civilian..... nice rig!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/1575.jpg

(Sorry for the cross post - other pics) (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/1941209-post14.html)

UncleHo
2nd July 2013, 10:42 AM
G'ay S12A

Will we see you and the Perentie at the Gold Coast Landrover Club meeting on Thursday night?? Just check the address and time in the Gold Coast Landrover Club section on AULRO.


cheers

S12A
2nd July 2013, 11:17 AM
G'ay S12A

Will we see you and the Perentie at the Gold Coast Landrover Club meeting on Thursday night?? Just check the address and time in the Gold Coast Landrover Club section on AULRO.


cheers

Gday UncleHO ,

i would love to come along , got a few little issues to fix up so i might have to come to the next one ?

will give me some time to clean it up a bit too!

cheers

Barefoot Dave
25th July 2013, 09:15 AM
G'Day all.
Auction rumour has it that there are some 'Interesting' White fleet vehicles coming soon.
Think: v8 Cruiser with 'Extensive' barwork. The words Special and Response spring to mind. ;)
Nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat, Eh Squire?!

More to follow, Wait out.

Disco Muppet
25th July 2013, 09:54 AM
G'Day all.
Auction rumour has it that there are some 'Interesting' White fleet vehicles coming soon.
Think: v8 Cruiser with 'Extensive' barwork. The words Special and Response spring to mind. ;)
Nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat, Eh Squire?!

Vehicle mounted fast response team through the Maccas drive through eh dave? ;) :p

Barefoot Dave
25th July 2013, 10:05 AM
DM, you are putting bad thoughts in my head.:twisted:
Rest, you naughty little Acorn, you. ; )

Disco Muppet
25th July 2013, 10:20 AM
DM, you are putting bad thoughts in my head.:twisted:
Rest, you naughty little Acorn, you. ; )

Good, let the Dark Side flow through you :twisted:
"We'll have a large order of fries and 12 mags of Mp5 ammo"
:firedevil:

schmik
26th July 2013, 07:54 AM
Are the blue slips they are showing pictures of correct?

Even the hardtop / commander / 4 door vehicles show the blue slip as a 2 seater 2 door car.

Does anyone know if the soft tops can be rego'ed / modified to be more than 2 seaters?

Ryan_
26th July 2013, 12:44 PM
Anyone have an opinion on what these old 110's will be selling for as they keep churning out the stock?? Dont they have like 2000+ to offload over the next few years?

I find it hard to believe there are enough hard core enthusiasts willing to pay $12-15k for a 25 year old soft top with unknown (200k+) kms on the clock, no PS no a/c and who knows what other issues?

I WANT one just for fun and to scare the hell out of Smart cars BUT.. they seem pretty overpriced for what they are :confused:

Here's hoping they run out of ready buyers and the prices fall off..

isuzurover
26th July 2013, 12:51 PM
Anyone have an opinion on what these old 110's will be selling for as they keep churning out the stock?? Dont they have like 2000+ to offload over the next few years?

I find it hard to believe there are enough hard core enthusiasts willing to pay $12-15k for a 25 year old soft top with unknown (200k+) kms on the clock, no PS no a/c and who knows what other issues?

I WANT one just for fun and to scare the hell out of Smart cars BUT.. they seem pretty overpriced for what they are :confused:

Here's hoping they run out of ready buyers and the prices fall off..

I think the numbers for sale are closer to 1000-1500.
They have gone as low as $8-10kish for roadworthy ones so far it seems.

Though they will likely fall lower... However the quality may also deteriorate as well.

Barefoot Dave
26th July 2013, 01:22 PM
Schmik, It seems that human error is at work.
The blue slips for both the SnrCmdr and Carryall that I checked are incorrect, I guess they are suffering from a form of RSI because of the prevalance of GS vehicles.
To any REASONABLE person, they are clearly 5 door vehicles and both ADR compliance plates state 5 seats. This is what your state Authority will take notice of.
As for rear additional seating, prob not much chance in a GS/FFR. You would need to talk to a few engineers to find one that will even consider your plan. Most just want to say NO, too hard, but there are ones out there who will do their job and make a proper assessment.
As the Station wagons have similar seating to the civvy versions, you have a precedent, so shouldn't be a huge issue.

Ryan, most people who buy these vehicles know that not having the extra fruit is cheap in the life of the vehicle.
Consider; Gal chassis- effectively maintanence free
Isuzu donk- life of up to 1Mkm if serviced with good lubes at the proper intervils
LT95- as above but maybe ONLY 500 000km

No dodgy electronics to degrade
Most components can be accessed and replaced easily by a competant owner/operator saving ~100/hr labour

I have identified a number of vehicles at auction that have been recently refurbished, so compare what you get for ~$13K avg to what is on the forecourt of a Great Wall dealer!
No question where I am shopping ;)

Prices have dropped a little over the last 6 months. Specials more so than others.
Grays know what they are doing and will maintain the supply/ demand balance to remain profitable. Additionally, the ADF is not replacing every land rover in 12 months, so they come when they are available.
The markets' saturation point is still an unknown, but remember, we are in a global marketplace. Don't expect to pay 1/2 the current price anytime soon.

I hope that helps.

Ryan_
26th July 2013, 03:15 PM
Considering the majority of the 110's for disposal are a soft top 2 seater variety I reckon the ownership novelty would wear off pretty quick.. a bit like buying a moke.. (unless they are all going to hard core Landy Men just keeping em in the shed for a sunny day..lol)

I'll hold my cash till there are another 500 or so out there to choose from.. I am sure they won't be going UP in value anyhow..

Gives me time to build a new shed and get a new drip pan..

Barefoot Dave
26th July 2013, 03:21 PM
Could be...
When my guide comes out, it may affect things though:angel:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/177598-perentie-land-rover-buyers-guide.html

Mick_Marsh
26th July 2013, 03:35 PM
Considering the majority of the 110's for disposal are a soft top 2 seater variety I reckon the ownership novelty would wear off pretty quick.. a bit like buying a moke.. (unless they are all going to hard core Landy Men just keeping em in the shed for a sunny day..lol)

I'll hold my cash till there are another 500 or so out there to choose from.. I am sure they won't be going UP in value anyhow..

Gives me time to build a new shed and get a new drip pan..
You've not seen the price of Mokes lately.
Restorers delights for around $5k.
Basket cases for less.
It's cheaper to buy a Perentie or two.

Sprint
26th July 2013, 11:07 PM
Land Rover 110, 4x4 Soft Top - 05&#47;1991 Auction &#40;0003-9001127&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0003-9001127/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-soft-top-05-1991)

also, has anyone noticed the different types of 'roo bars? some have just a siple loop either side in front of the guard, some have a full on bumper section as well....

Bearman
27th July 2013, 05:40 AM
Earlier and later types of bar. The early ones were just the loop and pretty useless.

87County
27th July 2013, 06:45 AM
Earlier and later types of bar. The early ones were just the loop and pretty useless.

As noted, the original was type less effective and there are quite a few update variations including those having the hi-lift jack mounting bracket behind the posts.

Interestingly, not all bars with hi-lift jack carrying points have the jacking points.

There was at least one in service with the jack on top. While it is probably adr non-compliant it is the most practical for the bush IMHO. The behind the post jack could be inaccessible/jammed if the bar was badly bent.

An interesting corollary to this is whether a vehicle with the original bar is one which was never damaged sufficiently to require bar replacement.

However there are relatively recent (since mid 2000s) bare chassis rebuilds (including chassis redips & realignments) which had the original type bars reinstalled.

hmmm..............I wonder if Barefoot Dave will include photos of all these variations in his "buying guide" :o . Acknowledgement appreciated if you do Dave :D



All this discussion on bars reminds me that all the bullbars that were removed from the Td5 remedials before sale must have ended up somewhere (hopefully not at a scrapyard).

Blknight.aus
27th July 2013, 08:38 AM
only 3 bar styles gents

early as fitted to all stock style 110's
late, as replaced when the early ones were damaged

RFSV/RSV/LRPV style which is the one thats got the highlift jack mounts and jacking points.

isuzutoo-eh
27th July 2013, 08:46 AM
I have noted three types of bar on general 4x4 vehicles, original water pipe ones, the second phase had a fairly massive rectangular tube bumper while the third and most recent is the ARB style bar.