Army vehicle disposal

[goanna_shire]

The hard top can 'handle' on the roof what your driving style and terrain allow. I have personally had a full length roof rack, solar panels, aluminium fishing table, spare tyres, bedding, crab pots, and a substantial boat upside down on the roof of my 'survey' hardtop. The back was loaded with a large honda powered snap freezer (takes up half the load space) and outboard and fuel, food, camp gear, and water drums and other crap like barbecue plates and bits going up the cape and across to the gulf. No idea how heavy but interesting to steer. Like a sailing boat:D.

Anything you can take off the roof and put inside the better:p.

Cheers,
Brian.



I have been looking a bit at the auctions and would like to clarify a few points if anyone can help;

In the hardtop versions apart from the winch and radio dist box what are the dfferences between the snr commander and the personnel carrier?

On these variants what is the seating capacity on the compliance plate?

What is the allowable roof load?

Thanks in advance

Ian

[spudboy]

Would a 1990 FFR 110 3.9 soft top have rear disc brakes?

[weeds]

Would a 1990 FFR 110 3.9 soft top have rear disc brakes?

I reckon no.......

[Barefoot Dave]

Spudboy, only the Surveillance vehicles had rear disc brakes.

There has been a rumour that the Tenix rebuild process included a rear disc conversion but I have seen no evidence of this.
It is not inconceivable that 1 or more have been converted, but not systemic.
The Discs /calipers are a combination of RR and '83ish 90"components.
If you are looking at Lot3, I would have a long look in the rear internal storage locker (Table) for rust. Going by the water staining visible in the rear, you will see some in there.

[spudboy]

Yep - It has some rust in there, and only 1 battery on the passenger side, and no spare wheel.

How did you guess I was looking at Lot 3?????

[spudboy]

Another question - in the log book notes, I see that lot 3 has an entry that reads something like this:

49,123 Kms 3/4/2005: REPLACE: Engine. Valves sticking

(Kms and date made up - but something like that)

Does this mean they put in a whole brand new engine, or would it have been a refurbished engine from another unit?

[rathgar]

Regarding the compliance plate seating capacity of the senr com. and per. carriers there are no photos. Does anyone know what this is?

[DeeJay]

Its 5 - as per the compliance plate photo's that are there,.:p

If you look under Description you will find a tab that says "additional photo's" - click that & open it up when asked.

[rathgar]

My apologies they are there for the SA vehicles just not the one in NSW

[Blknight.aus]

Another question - in the log book notes, I see that lot 3 has an entry that reads something like this:

49,123 Kms 3/4/2005: REPLACE: Engine. Valves sticking

(Kms and date made up - but something like that)

Does this mean they put in a whole brand new engine, or would it have been a refurbished engine from another unit?

Depends on what level of repair the unit that made the entry was authorised to work at. If it was a light or medium grade workshop it would have been an engine pull, if it was a heavy grade workshop they would have just pulled the head.

opening guess is that its had an engine change done on it it should be notated in an earlier part of the log book where the vehicle details are recorded (the engine number will have been amended)

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day Spud.
We see everything, Mwa ha ha ;)
Easy, you are in SA and there are not too many '90 FFRs worth buying down there.
I concur with the Knight, looks like a full engine swap to me.

Out of curiosity, the rear crossmember looks quite shiny on that one but from some angles it looks like silver paint. What did you see up close?

Declaration: I am not bidding on it nor am I providing information to anyone bidding on it!

Thanks

[spudboy]

No - that is just galvanizing as far as I could tell. Some have paint on the rear chassis area, but this one looks like the body was painted off of the chassis.

How can you tell that Lot 3 is one that might be worth buying?

We'll see if I end up with it at 5:00PM tonight!! After 126 bids I seem to be still winning it after 2 days.....

Thanks for the info on the engine too BTW.

[spudboy]

Seems I own another Land Rover! Mrs Spud will be thrilled :D

Now all the hassle of Regency Park, and getting it registered.... which no doubt involve installing a keyed ignition lock at the very least.

Cheers for all you help BarefootDave and BlkKnight.
David

[Barefoot Dave]

No - that is just galvanizing as far as I could tell. Some have paint on the rear chassis area, but this one looks like the body was painted off of the chassis.

How can you tell that Lot 3 is one that might be worth buying?


Thanks for the info on the engine too BTW.

It's all in the Book, Mr Spud.
Your GM120 will make for some interesting reading.

Anyway, Congratulations!! Welcome to the Perentie Club!
Make sure you join REMLR, if you haven't already.
There is a member who makes repro canopies using the correct canvas for a reasonable price!

[spudboy]

OK - I'll reword that: What made you think that Lot 3 was worth buying.....

The existing canopy is in reasonable nick. It's only going to be a farm car, so it'll do for the moment.

[Barefoot Dave]

Both Engine and chassis show signs of refurbishment, guessing about 5-6 years ago.

[DeeJay]

What a mixed result from the latest auctions..

The couple of recently refurbished vehicles went for pretty high prices, in my opinion.

My logic might be flawed, but to pay $18,209 for one with a couple of thousand clicks is a premium of $12,000 over the majority of them ( given you are paying 16% on another $10-11K)
So that means the vehicle depreciates about $12,000 within the first 60-100K depending on what vehicle you compare it to that you could have purchased. Sorry if the purchaser reads this, but I just don't see the value, as most of these vehicles will last a long time in civilian hands.

Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 7/1989 Auction (0035-5008645) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0035-5008645/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-7-1989)

[spudboy]

Wow - $18K!!

I paid $6.5K for this one: 1990 Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top (Seaton, SA) Auction (0003-8001091) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0003-8001091)

It has 54,000Kms on it (with full log book to document - not changed speedo), so apart from the winch I think that's a very high price for something similar to the one I ended up with.

[isuzurover]

What a mixed result from the latest auctions..

The couple of recently refurbished vehicles went for pretty high prices, in my opinion.

My logic might be flawed, but to pay $18,209 for one with a couple of thousand clicks is a premium of $12,000 over the majority of them ( given you are paying 16% on another $10-11K)
So that means the vehicle depreciates about $12,000 within the first 60-100K depending on what vehicle you compare it to that you could have purchased. Sorry if the purchaser reads this, but I just don't see the value, as most of these vehicles will last a long time in civilian hands.

Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 7/1989 Auction (0035-5008645) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0035-5008645/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-7-1989)

:D Some people obviously have too much money. I am sure the speedo would have been changed...

[Barefoot Dave]

That vehicle was a full rebuild, but as you say $12k premium?!
Bidding war.
I would consider $4-5K extra for a full Tenix but after that it isn't justified.
Sure if you add up the price of an engine and box rebuild you are coming close, but Tenix only rebuilt what was needed.
They are not a NOS type proposition.
Even the export market is out for something that exxy and other issues.

Spud paid a little less than what I would consider fair market value, well done!
The Carryalls in NSW/ SA were a fair-to-high price for the condition.
The SNr Cdr was a pretty good price for 1 of 11 in existence.
January will prove interesting :cool:

[Barefoot Dave]

News for the ex-mil Auction world:
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[paulak]

Gday all.I got the 2nd 4 door wagon in SA. $13 809. Have just arrived back in Perth after a 39 hour trip. Averaged 11.3 L/H or 8.8 km/L. Nice car to drive. My only problem was a loose fanbelt. Is there a market for the 24v alternator? The 4 olympic tyres are near brand new should I save them , sell them or run them out? The 2 batteries in the rear seem buggered but once I change it all to 12v I will get new ones. There is a slight fuel leak dripping from somewhere near injector pump and landing on front diff - any ideas? Thanks in advance. Seeya. Paul.

[weeds]

Gday all.I got the 2nd 4 door wagon in SA. $13 809. Have just arrived back in Perth after a 39 hour trip. Averaged 11.3 L/H or 8.8 km/L. Nice car to drive. My only problem was a loose fanbelt. Is there a market for the 24v alternator? The 4 olympic tyres are near brand new should I save them , sell them or run them out? The 2 batteries in the rear seem buggered but once I change it all to 12v I will get new ones. There is a slight fuel leak dripping from somewhere near injector pump and landing on front diff - any ideas? Thanks in advance. Seeya. Paul.

Nice buy....

Yep I agree ditch the 24v alternator, an FFR owner will pick grab it

The steel treks are crap once they start wearing I reckon.....run them for a while


You won't believe how many batteries the army goes through......good spot for your two aux. Batteries

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day Paul.
Congratulations, you are the new owner of a 'Senior Commander', one of only 11 ever made!
It has that name as it was destined to be a staff car for the big brass, Brigadeers and such.
If you keep it close to standard you will have an appreciating asset!
Or at least keep the standard parts in storage.
Either way, there is a health market for those who wish to sell their ex-mil bits. Whatever you do, I urge you to join the Register of Ex-Military Land Rovers (remlr.com)
Many are members here also, I am one.
there is a wealth of archive material and you won't be razzed for modifying your vehicle if you choose.

[minibloodhound]

What a mixed result from the latest auctions..

The couple of recently refurbished vehicles went for pretty high prices, in my opinion.

My logic might be flawed, but to pay $18,209 for one with a couple of thousand clicks is a premium of $12,000 over the majority of them ( given you are paying 16% on another $10-11K)
So that means the vehicle depreciates about $12,000 within the first 60-100K depending on what vehicle you compare it to that you could have purchased. Sorry if the purchaser reads this, but I just don't see the value, as most of these vehicles will last a long time in civilian hands.

Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 7/1989 Auction (0035-5008645) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0035-5008645/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-7-1989)

I was watching that one until the price went stupid. But it didn't have a full rebuild at Bandiana, the engine wasn't touched and had about 120000kays on it. The rest of the car had $85000 spent on it three years ago, so for some, paying 18k for it may actually be money well spent.
Scott

[DeeJay]

I was watching that one until the price went stupid. But it didn't have a full rebuild at Bandiana, the engine wasn't touched and had about 120000kays on it. The rest of the car had $85000 spent on it three years ago, so for some, paying 18k for it may actually be money well spent.
Scott

Only the Army could spend $85,000 on a vehicle that was less than $30,000 new on the civilian market !!:eek: They could have bought 2..

[croweater71]

Gday all.I got the 2nd 4 door wagon in SA. $13 809. Have just arrived back in Perth after a 39 hour trip. Averaged 11.3 L/H or 8.8 km/L. Nice car to drive. My only problem was a loose fanbelt. Is there a market for the 24v alternator? The 4 olympic tyres are near brand new should I save them , sell them or run them out? The 2 batteries in the rear seem buggered but once I change it all to 12v I will get new ones. There is a slight fuel leak dripping from somewhere near injector pump and landing on front diff - any ideas? Thanks in advance. Seeya. Paul.

What speed did you cruise at?

[lucipla]

Hi all just i got a perentie land rover 110 soft top ffr from that peoples in Minto . the auction is on line, and the site is graysonline.com is every month and they put for the auction 4x4, 6x6, trailers and trucks, the 4x4,6x6 and trailers have a nsw blue slip, mean ready to get a rego, the truck have a brown slip, the next auction will be around the 20 of january i will post any info i get

[Barefoot Dave]

G'day lucipla, and welcome to AULRO.
Thanks for the offer of updates, but it seems you missed the fact you are on p78 of a looong thread dealing with the auctions.
It started as a heads up that the auctions were beginning and is now a discussion area for specific vehicles and comments on purchases.
There are a lot of different sides to the auction story.
There is a seperate thread for discussion on prices and vehicle values, my Buyers Guide and related products, and issues relationg to ex-mil 110Rovers.

Have a look around and post in the most appropriate area. We do and it will make searching for info easier for you and those that come here after you.
I hope this helps.

[lucipla]

Thanks BDave i will do more research of the site and i will post in the appropriate area

[Discomark]

http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5008725/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-land-rovers-motorcycle-trailers'spr=true (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5008725/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-land-rovers-motorcycle-trailers'spr=true)

[vgpacer70]

Hi all,
Where do you find out when the next auctions in Adelaide will be held?

I assume they will have a few over next couple years??

[Mick_Marsh]

Hi all,
Where do you find out when the next auctions in Adelaide will be held?

I assume they will have a few over next couple years??
Welcome to the forum.
Keep your eye on Greys or this thread.

[vgpacer70]

Thanks

Am now living in the US at moment but having spent 11 years in the army starting as an army "appy" and driving around in both Perenties and "Mogs" during that time a Perentie modded up to tow my Xtrk Ultimate Camper to some spots that I was reluctant to push the 150 Prado sounds a plan for when I get back...........
So may have to do a remote "buy".

[John H]

Vgpacer70,good to see another Appy on here.I will be going to the next Adelaide auctions to have a look at whats on offer(looking at complimenting my 2a Wksp rover).If you want I can also have a look at anything that interests you.Cheers Hallsy 38th EF.

[weeds]

Vgpacer70,good to see another Appy on here.I will be going to the next Adelaide auctions to have a look at whats on offer(looking at complimenting my 2a Wksp rover).If you want I can also have a look at anything that interests you.Cheers Hallsy 38th EF.

There are a few of us about 43FnT

[DeeJay]

Is there anybody going to Minto in the next couple of days that could check out a service book for me?
I've chucked a bid down & would like to know if mileage is genuine.
Thanks
David

[Blknight.aus]

Gday all.I got the 2nd 4 door wagon in SA. $13 809. Have just arrived back in Perth after a 39 hour trip. Averaged 11.3 L/H or 8.8 km/L. Nice car to drive. My only problem was a loose fanbelt. Is there a market for the 24v alternator? The 4 olympic tyres are near brand new should I save them , sell them or run them out? The 2 batteries in the rear seem buggered but once I change it all to 12v I will get new ones. There is a slight fuel leak dripping from somewhere near injector pump and landing on front diff - any ideas? Thanks in advance. Seeya. Paul.


G'Day Paul.
Congratulations, you are the new owner of a 'Senior Commander', one of only 11 ever made!
It has that name as it was destined to be a staff car for the big brass, Brigadeers and such.
If you keep it close to standard you will have an appreciating asset!
Or at least keep the standard parts in storage.
Either way, there is a health market for those who wish to sell their ex-mil bits. Whatever you do, I urge you to join the Register of Ex-Military Land Rovers (remlr.com)
Many are members here also, I am one.
there is a wealth of archive material and you won't be razzed for modifying your vehicle if you choose.


Nice buy....

Yep I agree ditch the 24v alternator, an FFR owner will pick grab it



Thatd be me...

I've already sent a PM...

[DeeJay]

Is there anybody going to Minto in the next couple of days that could check out a service book for me?
I've chucked a bid down & would like to know if mileage is genuine.
Thanks
David


Found my answer..
Speedo has been replaced twice
Now this raises another question. Do they add the klms from the "new" speedo to the original mileage in the book?. It seems that they did this for a while, then forgot?
I have to admit being confused. pics added with ARN blanked out as I might still bid


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[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day Deejay.
As you have found, some practices in the GM120 can be variable. That is why you need to spend some time going through it.
I have seen a number of vehicles bid high due to a low speedo on the ass umption that it was a rebuild. DIN DONG!
All it took was a call to Grays as you have found to get an excerpt of the GM120.
I find the last 3 pages of Part 4, Maintanence/ Repairs etc and the most recent tech inspections, are usually sufficient to indicate go/ no-go.

[Bundalene]

I am just watching a No5 trailer in a bidding war at Grays. Most trailers sold between $700 and $1000, this one is currently at $2300.

I bought another, on behalf of our daughter in the NT.




Erich

[DeeJay]

I was watching the Auction as I was bidding on one or two ( don't tell the missus:angel:) of the wrecks.
There is no doubt that if the bidding keeps going due to new bids or a continuing bidding battle & it goes into overtime, then all those that missed out jump in & have a go. I'm just going thru the results now & its clear that there is a up to $2,000 difference for similar vehicles and the dearer ones sold as late as an hour after last call.


BTW I missed out, freight was going to be $880- $980 and that made me think of just getting a good one & drive it home..

[Landy Smurf]

anyone have the figures of the sale?

[jgk]

4x4's from $6k - $15.5k

Only a handful 110's under $8k and as DeeJay said big price discrepencies despite similar condition vehicle.
Some folks must have money to burn!

6x6's from $18 - $34.5

[Landy Smurf]

are those prices before or after the 16% add on

[jgk]

Before.

[DeeJay]

anyone have the figures of the sale?

$6509- $6909 x 3 - 1 was ordinary
$7009- $7909 x 8
$8009- $8909 x 15
$9109- $9309 x 2
$12,209 x 1 Bidding war, nothing special about it.
$12, 809 x1 ( Surveillance Hardtop)
$15,509 x1 - refurbished low klm with winch
Probably some others but you get the idea.
There was also a refurbished wreck that went for $5709- no winch.


Regards,
David

[Landy Smurf]

I thought they might have come down in a bit more in price by now.
Thanks for sharing the prices, much appreciated :)

[Barefoot Dave]

As discussed before as a probability, export is now occuring.
I am aware of vehicles going in all directions.
5 vehicles from the December auction are in NZ by now.
Don't expect to get one for <$5K at auction anytime soon.
Expect second hand prices to drop as people break expensive componants and financially 'walk away' from the Perenties.
I recommend budgeting to buy a complete vehicle and a wreck for spares, especially a 6x6!

[jgk]

I thought they might have come down in a bit more in price by now.


Agree totally. I suspect the high prices on carsales etc. is giving folks a false sense of value at auction.

With anther 2,000+ Perentie's still to be sold surely it's only a waiting game before number of vehicles sold satisfies all those who wanted their toy NOW and were prepared to pay extra (read loose money) for it. :wasntme:

Hopefully prices come down soon, cause I'm loosing patience!

[D110V8D]

Barefoot Dave, Can you give an idea of how many 4 door senior command type vehicles are still to be sold?

:)

[Blknight.aus]

bout 15 of em...

what I want to know about is the dual cab 6x6's W/Winch FFR

[paulak]

Gday, I thought there were only 11 senior commanders made. 3 went at the xmas auction. Not sure about any before that.

[Barefoot Dave]

Mick, a job for the next month is to finalise the database for the disposals.
I believe that 10 of the 11 Senior Commanders have gone. There were 35 Carryall Personnell carriers supplied to Army, I have one and there have beeen about 15 others sold.
I hope that helps.
paulak, There was 1 SC at Adelaide, the others were Carryalls

[Mick_Marsh]

bout 15 of em...

what I want to know about is the dual cab 6x6's W/Winch FFR
So do I.

[AIF]

Yes I got burn't by a LIAR who said it "MOST PROBABLY" had the engine rebuilt when the speedo was changed. Said he had no details from the auction when he bought it. But when grilled him later on he slipped up and said about emails to and from the auction house. And he was ex service as well. Yes I'm gullible and just love my 110.

[Barefoot Dave]

Yes I got burn't by a LIAR who said it "MOST PROBABLY" had the engine rebuilt when the speedo was changed. Said he had no details from the auction when he bought it. But when grilled him later on he slipped up and said about emails to and from the auction house. And he was ex service as well. Yes I'm gullible and just love my 110.

G'day AIF.
I am working on a system where a prospective buyer of auction and non-auction vehicles can check a central register to clarify the bs/don't really know.
Stay tuned!

[paulak]

Gday BDave, Mine is the one on page 39 of REMLR posted by 303Gunner. 2 descriptions as a snr com 1 as a personnel carrier. Paul.

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day Paul.
Well bought. are you happy with it?
If your vehicle has a winch and FFR, it is an SC.
Is that on the nomenclature plate, Passenger front seat box?

PS, just checked you auction listing, definately a Senior Commander. VERY good price, about the lowest paid for 1 i believe.

[Barefoot Dave]

bout 15 of em...

what I want to know about is the dual cab 6x6's W/Winch FFR

Me too.
And then I am going to bob it :twisted: mwahaha...
As to when?
When DSTO can fit Parakeet on the back of a G without it becoming a heavy vehicle!

[ggscadet]

Guys, does anyone know if there are any auctions planned for Perth. I saw most of WA's vehicles out at the rail yards being sent east, lucky for them bad for us. We have had one small auction but want to know if anymore planned. Any info appreciated.

[Barefoot Dave]

Guys, does anyone know if there are any auctions planned for Perth. I saw most of WA's vehicles out at the rail yards being sent east, lucky for them bad for us. We have had one small auction but want to know if anymore planned. Any info appreciated.

G'Day mate, welcome to AULRO.
Probably yes, but I couldn't say when.
You can subscribe to AFM for notification of when auctions are listed.
Don't suppose you took so photos of the vehicles?
The SASR LRPV 6x6s and SFPV 4x4s have recently been sent East for re-allocation to Cdo Units. Might have been them?
AFM are mustering the majority of vehicles at head office in Minto, Sydney for pre-sale prep and then sending them all over the country for sale.
The giveaway is the background of the photos, mostly down the back corner of the AFM/ Graysonline shed in Minto.

[paulak]

Gday BDave. Definitely with winch and FFR. Very happy with my purchase. Looking forward to many km together. Paul

[isuzutoo-eh]

Minto auctions are up, finishes on the 19th of Feb:
Ex-Military Unimogs,Trucks,Land Rovers,Motorcycle &#38;Trailers (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5009036/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-land-rovers-motorcycle-trailers'spr=true)

[303gunner]

Brisbane, too. Same dates.


Unreserved Ex Military Land Rover 110&#39;s (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/7004467/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-land-rover-110-s'spr=true)

[THE BOOGER]

Minto auctions are up, finishes on the 19th of Feb:
Ex-Military Unimogs,Trucks,Land Rovers,Motorcycle &Trailers (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5009036/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-land-rovers-motorcycle-trailers'spr=true)

Broke open the piggy bank yet:D

[87County]

I'm told there's about 15 softtops and a ht survey in Bris

[isuzutoo-eh]

Broke open the piggy bank yet:D

Not until I have space to park a third vehicle ;);):p

[SlowRide]

Does anyone keep a close eye on these auctions? Just wondering how commonly the 110 hardtops or panel vans come through the system?

The only Perenties i've ever seen are rag tops.

[isuzutoo-eh]

I think every single Minto auction and most other locations have had hard tops so far, between one and four a time, but they are going to run out at some stage as there aren't that many of them to start with. There are far fewer five door wagons in the system though, most would have sold by now.

[spudboy]

Does anyone keep a close eye on these auctions? Just wondering how commonly the 110 hardtops or panel vans come through the system?

The only Perenties i've ever seen are rag tops.

Out of about 15 units auctioned in Adelaide, 2 were hardtops, and went for about double the price of the soft-tops ($12K - 14K from memory).

[SlowRide]

So the soft tops go for $7K-ish? Far out, that sounds like a bargain. That said, i'd pay double for a hardtop. My DD is a soft-top Suzuki Sierra - great little unit, but I can't secure any valuables, nor am I that comfortable leaving it parked up overnight in randomsville.

[isuzutoo-eh]

As long as you know what you are getting then they do sound like a bargain. But if you want creature comforts or modern convenience, and don't like long term hearing loss, then they aren't so much a bargain...
There have been a few change hands already due to the reality of living with an on-road old-fashioned tractor :D

[Landy Smurf]

So the soft tops go for $7K-ish? Far out, that sounds like a bargain. That said, i'd pay double for a hardtop. My DD is a soft-top Suzuki Sierra - great little unit, but I can't secure any valuables, nor am I that comfortable leaving it parked up overnight in randomsville.
you need to remember the 16% on top of those prices for gst and I think the other one is buyers premium

[spudboy]

So the soft tops go for $7K-ish? Far out, that sounds like a bargain. That said, i'd pay double for a hardtop. My DD is a soft-top Suzuki Sierra - great little unit, but I can't secure any valuables, nor am I that comfortable leaving it parked up overnight in randomsville.

My winning bid for my FFR was $6.5K, but by the time I'd added on buyers premium and GST, it went up to $7.5K. Then vehice inspection and registration was another $500 and then $400 for insurance.

After an oil change of the engine/gearbox, fitting an ignition key and a few minor tidy ups, you are heading towards $9.5K - $10K.

[SlowRide]

As long as you know what you are getting then they do sound like a bargain. But if you want creature comforts or modern convenience, and don't like long term hearing loss, then they aren't so much a bargain...
There have been a few change hands already due to the reality of living with an on-road old-fashioned tractor :D

Sounds just like reality with my DD Suzuki Sierra, but rather than being a tractor, they're more of a quad bike. It's extremely loud (I have a box of earplugs in the glovebox), unstable at high speeds, handling is agricultural at best, it bounces around like a baby lamb even on flat surfaces, I get soaking wet every time it rains, the sun fries me on hot summer days, flies land on me at every stop light, no AC, no GPS, no other acronyms... but it goes absolutely anywhere, it's simple and reliable, and even a trained monkey can fix it. There's no other way to drive.

Just looking for something a little bigger so I can tow, cart more around at once, and tour a little further into the outback than i'm willing with my 'shopping trolley with benefits'.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/08/1141.jpg

[Psimpson7]

Just looking for something a little bigger so I can tow

better double check that as I believe from reading on here the tow capacity is pretty low.

[THE BOOGER]

I think they will tow just a bit more than a suzi and you can pack a lot inside them:)

[oowa]

Towing not a problem up to 1200kg (legally)




Cheers
Bruce

[Psimpson7]

1200kgs was my understanding too, which tbh is woeful.

[Sprint]

The perenties are limited to 1200kg?????

[Mick_Marsh]

The perenties are limited to 1200kg?????
Up hill and down dale.
If it was civy spec, it would probably be much more.

[THE BOOGER]

The closest civilian truck the 110 county is 3500kg;)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The closest civilian truck the 110 county is 3500kg;)In particular the 110 Isuzu, which has the same engine, mostly the same transmission (except the Perentie has tapered rollers in the transfer) and the same diffs and can still tow 2.3tonne more than the Perentie!

Sad isn't it.

[TonyC]

The closest civilian truck the 110 county is 3500kg;)

Are you sure?
I thought the 110 was the same as a non ABS Defender, 4000Kg.
Not that I'd want to tow anywhere near that with either.

Tony

[THE BOOGER]

The perenties are 110,s the defers came out later:)

[JDNSW]

From the 1986 110 Australian supplement owners handbook:-

Front axle max load

V8 1200 Isuzu 1300 6x6 1500

Rear axle(s) max load

County (wagon) 1750 Hardtop 1850 Cab/chassis 1900 6x6 4000

GVM County 2950 Hardtop 3050 Cab/chassis 3200 6x6 5500

GCM County 6950 Hardtop, cab/chassis, 6x6 7050

This shows that the maximum trailer mass for the County is 4000, but only 3850 for the cab/chassis and 1550 for the 6x6 assuming maximum GVM.

The owner's handbook (that this is a supplement to) shows maximum trailer mass of 4000 (fully braked), 3500 (overrun brakes) except for the 2.5 diesel, which was, of course, not sold in Australia.

From this I would expect that it should be fairly easy to get the towing weight increase approved. I assume the army towing masses are reduced for offroad use.

John

[TonyC]

The perenties are 110,s the defers came out later:)

Yep, my head is around that.

John has confirmed what I remembered from my 110 (pre defender) 4000Kg towing. The same as my Defender 130.

Later Defenders with ABS can "only" tow 3500Kg.

Tony

[mudmouse]

The upcoming Moorebank auction includes a Inter wrecker :eek: and some other nice vehicles and equipment....

Matt

[87County]

The upcoming Moorebank auction includes a Inter wrecker :eek: and some other nice vehicles and equipment....

Matt

nice traditional Mack fire engine as well - wonder where that came from ....

(not to be confused with the Minto LR etc auction)

[weeds]

My mate that does blue plates agree with the lower towing capacity........from memory it's got so ethic to do with the higher CoG and modified chassis.

He did say that it shouldn't be too difficult to get the towing capacity changed to the civvie spec units........but most will pit their head in the sand like all the other non ADR compliant mods.

[THE BOOGER]

nice traditional Mack fire engine as well - wonder where that came from ....

(not to be confused with the Minto LR etc auction)

Museum at SME

[Sprint]

I still havent had my copy of the owners manual returned, but IIRC, GVM and GCM weights indicated a towing capacity in excess of 3000kg.....

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day.
EDE Project Perentie Profile states towed load of up 900kg.

EMEI G102, Tech Description of Truck, Utility, lightweight, P53 #157 states"...the towing pintle has a recommended towing capacity of 1200kg for both highway and cross-country operation."

Technical manual, User Handbook, Truck, FFR LtWt, states there is an approved towing pintle, but does not specify a weight.

Technical manual, User Handbook, Truck, Infantry Carrier, Lt, FF states
Maximum towed load: 2000kg

So, to get legalish...
The user manual is refered to as the highest authority unless over-rided by national legislation.
The Tech Manual, Use H'Book is not a LR publication.
So the argument then falls to: What does the civvy equivalent LR docs quote for the chassis and what is the manufacturers Max load rating?

[87County]

..................
So, to get legalish...
The user manual is refered to as the highest authority unless over-rided by national legislation.
The Tech Manual, Use H'Book is not a LR publication.
So the argument then falls to: What does the civvy equivalent LR docs quote for the chassis and what is the manufacturers Max load rating?

Hi Dave, to get legalish (love the word mate :D ) , is there a civvy equivalent for the chassis ?

The Perentie chassis appears superior with the structure above the spare location and the stronger "rear crossmember", but obviously my writing this doesn't make it "engineering" :)

[Sprint]

So, to get legalish...
The user manual is refered to as the highest authority unless over-rided by national legislation.
The Tech Manual, Use H'Book is not a LR publication.
So the argument then falls to: What does the civvy equivalent LR docs quote for the chassis and what is the manufacturers Max load rating?

So technically, wouldnt the brochure, as a LR publication, listing GVM and GCM, hold greater authority over the tech/user manuals?

[weeds]

So technically, wouldnt the brochure, as a LR publication, listing GVM and GCM, hold greater authority over the tech/user manuals?


you would assume so........

my mate hasn't had the chance to investigate it as a 110 hasn't been presented to him for a safety certificate. towing capacity isn't a concern as its not a requirement for the inspection to obtain a pass, in his opinion there are at least four items that would fail a 110 presented to him, the owner would than likely go to another inspector that doesn't quite follow the rules.

[Mick_Marsh]

Anyone got such a document they can post up here?

[isuzutoo-eh]

Wasn't the only Perentie chassised 110 that was built purely for civillian 'sale' Sir Les Hiddens' white wagon? If so, that'd hold the key to civvy use of the chassis, assuming JLRA didn't just leave it with the army tow specs.

[LR V8]

and that RFSV that Dave Benson use to own....

Pete

[Xtreme]

Some about to be auctioned in Auckland NZ - 20th to 26th Feb

[Sprint]

Anyone got such a document they can post up here?

The brochure? Pretty sure its up on remlr

[303gunner]

Technical manual, User Handbook, Truck, FFR LtWt, states there is an approved towing pintle, but does not specify a weight.

Technical manual, User Handbook, Truck, Infantry Carrier, Lt, FF states
Maximum towed load: 2000kg
The FFR Tech Manual does state the towed load, but it's in the Synopsis page.


And the Infantry Carrier, that's the 6x6, right?

[DeeJay]

Frontline had a display at the Wandin 4x4 show today, a very nice 6x6 & GS & RFS & Unimog with winch & crane. The girl there said there were 20 vehicles - including those on the display in next weeks Melbourne Auction.

[Cliffy]

Anyone having a snoop around Minto tomorrow?

[MattyGM]

Anyone having a snoop around Minto tomorrow?

I was going to but didn't get a chance today in the end.

Will get out there for next month's auction hopefully.

[DeeJay]

I asked nicely & was able to get a sneak preview of the Melbourne Auction, a pretty good line up this time, only one I wouldn't buy. Going on the Minto results from today, they are still overpriced for what you get IMHO. :(. Might still chuck a decent bid on, but it wont have an 8 as first figure:p


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/346.jpg

These are the ones back from the 4wd Field day. I was surprised to see that they were all much the same at Cheltenham
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/347.jpg

[usi]

I'm interested to know when the drz400's are going back into the line up.

There have been a few mentions of 250's as well? Anyone got any more info on these?

[rangieman]

Mmm interested to know which one to stay clear of;)
Maybe we can go halfs mate . We both want one but are too tight:angel:

I asked nicely & was able to get a sneak preview of the Melbourne Auction, a pretty good line up this time, only one I wouldn't buy. Going on the Minto results from today, they are still overpriced for what you get IMHO. :(. Might still chuck a decent bid on, but it wont have an 8 as first figure:p


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/346.jpg

These are the ones back from the 4wd Field day. I was surprised to see that they were all much the same at Cheltenham
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/02/347.jpg

[Summiitt]

There were some good buys on the unimogs in Sydney..missed out again!!

[MattyGM]

Looks like the honey is attracting the flys ;)

Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top Auction (0010-3004832) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0010-3004832/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/strong-land-rover-110-4x4-regional-force-surveillance-soft-top-strong)

[Mick_Marsh]

Think I'll get a Mog, they're cheaper.

[carlschmid2002]

Looks like the honey is attracting the flys ;)

Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top Auction (0010-3004832) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0010-3004832/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/strong-land-rover-110-4x4-regional-force-surveillance-soft-top-strong)

That's one very sweet honey pot.

[Sprint]

Wish the page would load for me :-(

[sheerluck]

Wish the page would load for me :-(

Hmmm, the Grays website doesn't seem to have worked since friday afternoon. :(

[scarry]

Working now...

Once you put on the GST,then another 6%,sure adds up:(

[Benz]

Might have a look at the actions in vic tomorrow for something to do.

See what all the fuss is about that surveillance 110.

[MattyGM]

Might have a look at the actions in vic tomorrow for something to do.

See what all the fuss is about that surveillance 110.

Did you get there in the end?

[Benz]

yeah we called past for a bit of a sticky beak.

This is the first time I have been one of the auctions.

I must say I was a little underwhelmed. The 110's looked like they have had a pretty hard life with caved in wing tops, terrible looking paint and worn out holey canvas. The best looking one being the Regional Surveillance one which went for a whopping $21,809 (before gst and buyers premium) which is far more then I would be prepared to pay.

I'm not sure if this was a particularly rough lot but they weren't quite what I expected.

the 6x6's were in top shape though. I can't believe how solid the trays are made! They have some seriously thick steal in them. They must weigh a tonne! The cab is quite roomy too. Would make an amazing camper.

All in all I walked in thinking "I really want to buy one of these one day" and walked out thinking "now I'm not too sure..."

[303gunner]

The 6x6's were in top shape though. I can't believe how solid the trays are made! They have some seriously thick steel in them. They must weigh a tonne! The cab is quite roomy too. Would make an amazing camper.
The rear bodies were made by Hockney Alcan from 25mm Aluminium, not steel, but yes strong, they are a ROPS roll over structure.


Not the best choice as a camper though. Turning circle to match a supertanker. Interior noise over 80Km/h that begs earplugs/muffs, 20Lt/100Km fuel economy and atrocious rear suspension articulation. Your around Aust trip will soon become a conversation free, music free, expensive bore. But the ride and handling is fantastic!

[hot rover]

Your around Aust trip will soon become a conversation free, music free, expensive bore.

Beats listening to the nagging ***** (loving wife) sitting beside you wooops did saythat. To my way of thinking it would be a very pleasurable trip.

[Benz]

haha the back ends of the 6x6's being made out of ali makes sense.
I was thinking it would be massively overkill if it were steel.

I did see the warning sticker which stated driving over 80kph will cause hearing loss. surely you could quieten it down with some sound deadening?
and 20L per 100kms? that seems excessive, what kind of mileage will a 110 give you then? or is that figure a army estimate on fuel usage with the worst case scenario (headwind, sand, ect.) to be sure they never run out?

I don't think I will be buying a 6x6 anyway. They are a bit big.
My next travels will involve shipping containers and I think the size might be a killer for that without changing the tray all together.

[THE BOOGER]

Unfortunatly its not an estimate and the best sound deadening is applied directly to the ears :p

[303gunner]

and 20L per 100kms? that seems excessive, what kind of mileage will a 110 give you then? or is that figure a army estimate on fuel usage with the worst case scenario (headwind, sand, ect.) to be sure they never run out?
It's actually best case scenario (highway driving quoted as 600Km on 2x 64lt tanks) Sand driving economy would recall the famous line "If you need to ask, you can't afford it". :eek:

[LieutenantRover]

5 k's /lt for the 6by on bitumen and having just driven 600k's with a 110 + No5 trailer I averaged slightly under 9 k's /litre

[Mick_Marsh]

5 k's /lt for the 6by on bitumen and having just driven 600k's with a 110 + No5 trailer I averaged slightly under 9 k's /litre
5km/l=20l/100km
9km/l=11l/100km

You know, 20l/100km is what they reckon I should be getting in the 101.

[TonyC]

5km/l=20l/100km
9km/l=11l/100km

You know, 20l/100km is what they reckon I should be getting in the 101.

And in real life?

I wonder what the what fuel consumption was like across the Sahara with the powered trailer on the back :eek:

[Benz]

wow with figures like that for fuel consumption you might as well own a mid sized truck.

[Bearman]

But it wouldn't be anywhere near as much fun as a 6by though!

[JDNSW]

wow with figures like that for fuel consumption you might as well own a mid sized truck.

That's what it is, and that is the licence required to drive it.

John

[Mick_Marsh]

5km/l=20l/100km
9km/l=11l/100km

You know, 20l/100km is what they reckon I should be getting in the 101.And in real life?
I'm driving a 101. Who cares?

[Mick_Marsh]

That's what it is, and that is the licence required to drive it.

John
Yep. At 5.6t GVM you need at least a light rigid license to drive it, legally.

[TonyC]

I'm driving a 101. Who cares?

Point taken :p

But at some stage you must care if you make it to the next fuel stop or not ;)

Tony

[Mick_Marsh]

Point taken :p

But at some stage you must care if you make it to the next fuel stop or not ;)

Tony
The 101 has a big feul tank. There is one jerry can holder slung underneath. I have a triple jerry can holder I want to fit. The previous owner of my first one used to drive around the Flinders Ranges with two 44gal drums of fuel in the back.
Don't think I'll have a problem between servo's.

[Benz]

Well yeah guess you are right it does fit in the light truck catargory.

Eaither was I feel quite depressed about what I found at the auctions.
I thought a rag top 110 would be a great run around for me after our trip around oz was over.
Maybe the perenties just aren't for me.

Does anyone know if the last lot in melbourne were particuarly rough? Or is that the norm?

[DeeJay]

I thought the ones at the earlier auction were of a better standard than the last auction. I guess Mannheim evened the tone out with the 2 6x6 Infantry carriers & 3 RSFV's as they were pretty good. One thing I learnt was not to buy one sight unseen. One I thought was OK ran very roughly, maybe dodgy fuel, but too much of a gamble. It sold to a Qld buyer. In fact 4 vehicles went to Qld, 7 back to NSW & 7 to Vic buyers :eek:

[spudboy]

wow with figures like that for fuel consumption you might as well own a mid sized truck.

Our mid-sized MAN truck does about 25L/100 on average. If it is nice and level and constant cruising, I've seen 19.5/100, but if it is slow stuff and hilly, I've also seen just over 30L/100.

BTW - it weighs about 8 or 9 tonne, with a 6 cylinder 6.7 litre engine.

[303gunner]

I guess Mannheim evened the tone out ...
Mannheim? You mean GraysOnline.

[DeeJay]

Mannheim? You mean GraysOnline.



Correct :)

[LieutenantRover]

Point taken :p

But at some stage you must care if you make it to the next fuel stop or not ;)

Tony

I can cram 800 litres in all the holes. That gets me to Kuranda from Kal via the Outback highway

[HowardSmall]

You could then just coast down the hill to Smithfield ...



I can cram 800 litres in all the holes. That gets me to Kuranda from Kal via the Outback highway

[Cliffy]

Who's going to this months auction at Minto in person?
Anyone buy a wreck that actually ran ok once put back together?
I have a project that will not need a camo canopy.
Trying to decide if the GS 88 or the boat will be going to make room for a Perentie.

[MattyGM]

Who's going to this months auction at Minto in person?
Anyone buy a wreck that actually ran ok once put back together?
I have a project that will not need a camo canopy.
Trying to decide if the GS 88 or the boat will be going to make room for a Perentie.

I hope to get to this auction, won't be bidding so will give some feedback if I make it out there.

[Cliffy]

Cheers!

[MattyGM]

Saw several GS Perenties at Randwick Barracks today being moved around, they maybe part of the next lot at Minto to go...

[juddy]

Spotted 3 GS units coming into Brisbane today via ceva..

[DeeJay]

Next round of Auctions commence 4pm tomorrow
Vic, S.A, NSW, & QLD

[spudboy]

Went to check out the Adelaide lots this afternoon.

All I can say, is if you are after a 6x6 then you better bid on either lots 3 or 4. They are brand new. Not like new - brand new. They even smell like new cars. One has done 90Kms and the other has done less than 200Kms. They look fabulous. I've got some photos on my phone, which I'll upload some time soon.

If you are after a 4x4, then:
- Lots 8 & 9 (both fitted with a winch) are the best looking GS's. Matching seats. Reasonable canopies.
- Lot 15 & 16 are the best FFR's. Brand new batteries in both. Good tyres.
- Lot 11 has a rather large oil leak from the front of the engine.

Hope that helps someone with their bidding.

Cheers
David

[Cliffy]

8 & 9 are FFR's bro.

[spudboy]

OK -sorry - swap those numbers around. I was doing it from memory...

If you are after a 4x4, then:
- Lot 8 & 9 are the best FFR's (both fitted with a winch). Brand new batteries in both. Good tyres.
- Lots 15 & 16 are the best looking GS's. Matching seats. Reasonable canopies.
- Lot 11 has a rather large oil leak from the front of the engine.

[Judo]

Anyone going to look in VIC tomorrow? I'm convincing SWMBO we should go have a look late morning. :D

SWMBO correctly fears what might happen, but I think I can convince her we should go "just have a wander".

[Cliffy]

Really appreciate the intell. Being in WA, SA is my best scenario.

[spudboy]

Are you after a 4x4 or 6x6?

[Cliffy]

4x4 FFR or GS but am angling for a deployed or from WA.

[DeeJay]

Went to check out the Adelaide lots this afternoon.

All I can say, is if you are after a 6x6 then you better bid on either lots 3 or 4. They are brand new. Not like new - brand new. They even smell like new cars. One has done 90Kms and the other has done less than 200Kms. They look fabulous. I've got some photos on my phone, which I'll upload some time soon.

If you are after a 4x4, then:
- Lots 8 & 9 (both fitted with a winch) are the best looking GS's. Matching seats. Reasonable canopies.
- Lot 15 & 16 are the best FFR's. Brand new batteries in both. Good tyres.
- Lot 11 has a rather large oil leak from the front of the engine.

Hope that helps someone with their bidding.

Cheers
David


I have often wondered if they have a stock of new 4x4's stashed somewhere for that "what if" situation. I know they bought ( & sold off first) some TD5's to fill the shortfall, but all that means to me is they refuse to release these vehicles as there was never a crisis severe enough needing them. The fact these 6x6's exist (& some in Melb & 1 in Sydney) only makes me more curious.

[spudboy]

That's our taxes at work :(

[Distortion]

I though the TD5s were bought as part of the grey fleet and done up effectively as PR vehicles or for situations where they needed the look but wanted air-con etc

Never to fill the same role as any of the Perenties

[DeeJay]

I though the TD5s were bought as part of the grey fleet and done up effectively as PR vehicles or for situations where they needed the look but wanted air-con etc

Never to fill the same role as any of the Perenties



Here is the answer:) - well it can be interpreted differently.


TD5 Remediation Vehicles -REMLR (http://www.remlr.com/110-td5.html)

[Bushy049]

Anyone know when there will be a WA auctions as I'm very keen to go have a close look at these 110's too decide if I want one. Well I think I already know the answer. But want a close look none the less

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[Cliffy]

There will when in becomes uneconomical to ship to Minto.
You really need to drive one to know if there are for you (unless you are buying to collect). You can't do this at the auctions.

[Bushy049]

I'm not after features or comfort got my disco for that. Want one for knocking around the bush down here for trout fishing hunting ect. Won't want to mod it too much, just some slightly bigger tyres second bat for the fridge tool box for storage and a hf radio in case things go pair shaped. If it's like my mates old s2 we knocked around in when we were younger it will be right up my ally. Just with a better motor and coils ;)

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[Homestar]

Was lucky enough to be offered a drive of a 6x6 up here at Corowa this weekend. A bit of off road and a good on road highway run. I can tell you right now that this vehicle is for me...:D

They are big and heavy, but have good manners on and off road. Power is adequate, brakes are good. Earplugs advisable for prolonged use above 90...

Got to start saving some pennies though.

They certainly won't be for everyone and I can see that some will get sold on in 12 months or so when the shine wears off for some owners...

I can imagine some conversations at the auctions between couples - 'Wow, that would make a great touring wagon - buy it dear...' Then after the first 200KM on the first trip 'Wow, this thing is noisy' or 'where's the mp3 plug into' or 'it's hot, turn the AC up...'...:D

[Cliffy]

For that they are awesome!

[Judo]

I made it to the VIC site yesterday for a brief look. Didn't look at every vehicle, but there was at least 1 6x6 that was brand new. The soft tops were varying condition. And just for funny we climbed in a Unimog and turned the key. :D Even SWMBO thought it was pretty awesome although she most liked the 6x6's!!

[spudboy]

Do any of the UniMogs have airconditioning?

I just spotted this photo in one of the auctions:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/03/776.jpg

Is that black box thing with vents forward of the gearstick an airconditioner?

[Judo]

^ I didn't turn it on, but yes pretty certain it was air con.

[CharlieG]

But I can't make it to Sydney. Plus my partner is wholly opposed to a canvas top. I may win that battle eventually, but in case I don't, how many four door (senior Commander, I think?) 4x4s are likely to be left?

Should I feel like spending some time in the family court, are there any that look like total pups that should be avoided at all costs?

Cheers,

Charlie

[87County]

Do any of the UniMogs have airconditioning?

..........

when you were looking at them before, did you ever have a drive of one, spud?

I ask because IMHO the ergonomics for the driver are not good :o

[MattyGM]

Just been out to Minto, lots to look at!

I can see the boys with the pressure washers had been at work however after a week or so of sitting all the oil/clutch/brake fluid leaks have become apparent.
A couple of top looking Perenties with timing cover and rear main seal leaks.
Being unable to start them is a bummer as you have no idea of engine condition.
Not hard to tell which have had major overhauls when you look at the bidding so far.

I found an old beach towel and torch came in handy for underneath.

Cheers
Matt

[87County]

But I can't make it to Sydney. .......

Should I feel like spending some time in the family court, are there any that look like total pups that should be avoided at all costs?

Cheers,

Charlie

After having a looksee yesterday I'd say that there are quite a few ok examples in this lot, & quite a few not so good - but it's something that you really need to look at yourself.

plenty more to come yet :)

(although the number of hardtops of any kind remaining would be very limited)

[spudboy]

when you were looking at them before, did you ever have a drive of one, spud?

I ask because IMHO the ergonomics for the driver are not good :o

Yeh - I have driven 1 for about 10kms - that is all. And I've had a sit in another one at the local army barracks (they wouldn't let me drive it!). The cabs are surprisingly small for such a big vehicle.

Do you get out of them after a long trip and need some Physio attention?

[Engineered]

The headline says it all.

Are these Oz Army Land Rovers permissible for export to New Zealand? Is there a reputable re-seller with whom I can deal from here rather than fly to the auction site (with the understanding that any re-seller will price to make a profit)?

I wouldn't take a Humvee for free if it was gold-plated and filled with crates of beer but I've been dreaming of getting a British or Australian Army 110 forever.

Cheers

[HowardSmall]

Some have been shipped to NZL by Frontline for sale by auction.


Howard

[Barefoot Dave]

G'day Engineered.
Congratulations on making the move to the better side of the Pacific!

As stated, there was an auction in Auckland recently. These weren't the first to cross the ditch.
Contact Australian Frontline Machinery or GraysOnline and enquire if any more are coming over.
To export them, you need to apply for a 'Licence to export ex-military equipment', a formality unless you live in North Korea or Syria ;-)
If you have no luck, I may be able to assist. PM for details.

[spudboy]

Well, I have given up bidding on the Unimog I was chasing in the Vic auction :(

Price is now well over $20K, so I am pulling out of that one. Will wait until the next round I guess.

For anyone who is interested in buying one of these, I had a quite a deal of trouble chasing down anyone that would insure a Unimog. I tried NTI (specialist truck insurers), CGU, RAA, QBE, Ken Tame (Specialist RV insurers). None interested.

I the end I could get it added to my Farm Pack for $550pa (too bad if you don't have a farm) or after 3 days of phone calls with Shannons they would cover it for about $500 to a max value of $20K.

Shannons have now added this model to their database, so hopefully anyone else who calls them will have an easier time of it.

Cheers
David

[CharlieG]

After having a looksee yesterday I'd say that there are quite a few ok examples in this lot, & quite a few not so good - but it's something that you really need to look at yourself.

plenty more to come yet :)

(although the number of hardtops of any kind remaining would be very limited)

Thanks - good advice. Will wait til next time around.

Good luck to those bidding!

[87County]

Well, I have given up bidding on the Unimog I was chasing in the Vic auction :(

Price is now well over $20K, so I am pulling out of that one. Will wait until the next round I guess.

For anyone who is interested in buying one of these, I had a quite a deal of trouble chasing down anyone that would insure a Unimog. I tried NTI (specialist truck insurers), CGU, RAA, QBE, Ken Tame (Specialist RV insurers). None interested.

I the end I could get it added to my Farm Pack for $550pa (too bad if you don't have a farm) or after 3 days of phone calls with Shannons they would cover it for about $500 to a max value of $20K.

Shannons have now added this model to their database, so hopefully anyone else who calls them will have an easier time of it.

Cheers
David

good work & info on the insurance -

.. but I am sure that I wouldn't like to sit in the standard driving seat of a mog for a long trip.

[Homestar]

Bugger, missed the end of the auctions. How do you go and look at what everything went for? I can't seem to find anything?

[Judo]

Bugger, missed the end of the auctions. How do you go and look at what everything went for? I can't seem to find anything?

I think you need to know the URLs now. I'm planning on taking a copy of all the prices, hopefully later tonight if you can wait. Not home from work yet...

If you know one URL you can just change the lot number. That's how I plan to find them all....

[DeeJay]

I have saved nearly all the URL's I can post it here if you know the lot no.
Most Vic 110's went above 7 g's again

[Homestar]

Thanks - wanted to know what the low KM 6x6's went for, and the wrecked 6x6 tray without the front axle.

I got in just in time to see one 6x6 with about 44KKM on it went for $17K. I'm sure by the time I can save up for one, they should be cheaper again... :)

Cheers,

[LandroverScott]

Thanks - wanted to know what the low KM 6x6's went for, and the wrecked 6x6 tray without the front axle.

I got in just in time to see one 6x6 with about 44KKM on it went for $17K. I'm sure by the time I can save up for one, they should be cheaper again... :)

Cheers,

Hi, the 6x6 wreck without the front axle made $1600..................why dont they sell some wrecks in Melb?

Regard
Scott

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[Homestar]

Hi, the 6x6 wreck without the front axle made $1600..................why dont they sell some wrecks in Melb?

Regard
Scott

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Thanks - I'm sure they will eventually - there are stacks left to go yet. No rush - patience is a virtue. I'm forced to have to wait for quite some time yet, but one will be mine... eventually...:D

[isuzutoo-eh]

Wrecked sixby:
Land Rover 110 6X6 Cargo Soft Top with PVC cover 5&#47;1989 Auction &#40;0085-5009444&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0085-5009444/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-cargo-soft-top-with-pvc-cover-5-1989)

[DeeJay]

Low Klm Perenties. They were basically new !! Here is the 4 from Melb.


Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 2/1996 Auction (0005-3005075) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0005-3005075/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-2-1996)


Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 2/1996 Auction (0006-3005075) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0006-3005075/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-2-1996)


Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 2/1996 Auction (0007-3005075) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0007-3005075/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-2-1996)

Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 10/1996 Auction (0008-3005075) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0008-3005075/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-10-1996)

And Minto


Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 11&#47;1996 Auction &#40;0012-5009444&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0012-5009444/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-11-1996)


This was a good buy..


Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 5&#47;1997 Auction &#40;0009-5009444&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0009-5009444/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-5-1997)

[Homestar]

Wow, some good prices there. Under $20K for an almost new 6x6... They're getting affordable...

[Judo]

Apparently lot 8 doesn't exist?

Anyway, I think I got all this right...



Lot Vehicle Sale price + buyer prem +gst URL
1 Unimog $20,009 $23,330 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-3005075/)
2 Unimog $22,409 $26,129 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0002-3005075/)
3 Unimog $16,009 $18,666 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0003-3005075/)
4 6x6 $15,009 $17,500 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0004-3005075/)
5 6x6 $20,609 $24,030 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0005-3005075/)
6 6x6 $18,109 $21,115 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0006-3005075/)
7 6x6 $18,109 $21,115 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0007-3005075/)
9 6x6 $24,009 $27,994 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0009-3005075/)
10 110 FFR $7,509 $8,755 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0010-3005075/)
11 110 FFR $7,209 $8,406 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0011-3005075/)
12 110 FFR $7,509 $8,755 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0012-3005075/)
13 110 FFR $7,809 $9,105 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0013-3005075/)
14 110 FFR $6,709 $7,823 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0014-3005075/)
15 110 Cargo $7,409 $8,639 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0015-3005075/)
16 110 Cargo $7,709 $8,989 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0016-3005075/)
17 110 Cargo $6,109 $7,123 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0017-3005075/)
18 110 Cargo $8,009 $9,338 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0018-3005075/)
19 110 Cargo $6,909 $8,056 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0019-3005075/)
20 110 Cargo $7,309 $8,522 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0020-3005075/)
21 110 Cargo $7,209 $8,406 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0021-3005075/)
22 110 Cargo $6,609 $7,706 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0022-3005075/)
23 110 Cargo $7,009 $8,172 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0023-3005075/)
24 110 Cargo $7,309 $8,522 URL (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0024-3005075/)

[sheerluck]

Wrecked sixby:
Land Rover 110 6X6 Cargo Soft Top with PVC cover 5/1989 Auction (0085-5009444) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0085-5009444/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-cargo-soft-top-with-pvc-cover-5-1989)

I like this bit:

Note: Marks, dents and scratches commensurate with age and use...... :D

[Bearman]

Nothing too bad, just hit a washout a bit fast and lost the front axle[bigwhistle]

[Cliffy]

Missed out again ;o(
Looks like the 88" and my boat had to go to be able to buy one "off the radar".
Going to the shed imagine what it will look like with a Perentie in there.

[Bushy049]

Missed out again ;o(
Looks like the 88" and my boat had to go to be able to buy one "off the radar".
Going to the shed imagine what it will look like with a Perentie in there.

Hang in there Cliffy I'm watching these machines too every auction there getting cheaper and there is plenty more to go.

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[MattyGM]

Missed out again ;o(
Looks like the 88" and my boat had to go to be able to buy one "off the radar".
Going to the shed imagine what it will look like with a Perentie in there.

Patience will pay off soon!

[Cliffy]

Haha.
Yes, one day it will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine!
Just talking to a mate who's out driving them at the moment and he can't wait for them to be sold off and replaced!

[Cliffy]

Wana convoy back from ova east bushy ?
Got another guy who's interested. We just all have to win vehicles from the same auction!

[Bushy049]

The possibility is there Cliffy, was only just thinking about it

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[87County]

Haha.
Yes, one day it will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine!
Just talking to a mate who's out driving them at the moment and he can't wait for them to be sold off and replaced!


Well... I can understand that, the replacement will be quieter, with better ergonomics and a/c.

Having just done a 3000+km trip to Corowa/Pucka and back in the perentie ffr I think I know what he's talking about - wind & engine noise are high at speed and it gets fairly warm once the daytime temp goes over 30. But those ADF replacement Isri seats are very comfortable.

While it was OK I would probably prefer to use my D1 or County over such a trip.

[MattyGM]

Hop on popular auto selling websites and you will see dealers struggling to sell Perenties they paid too much for at auction as well as the general public who have realised that they don't have a/c, power steering etc AFTER they have bought them.

The numbers are growing, the demand will slowly fall and thus the prices....

[Homestar]

Hop on popular auto selling websites and you will see dealers struggling to sell Perenties they paid too much for at auction as well as the general public who have realised that they don't have a/c, power steering etc AFTER they have bought them.

The numbers are growing, the demand will slowly fall and thus the prices....

Yep, they must be crying now with the latest lot going for well under $10K, and there are plenty trying to be sold privately for $12 to $14K - they are stuffed now...

There are even 6x6's being sold privately - theres on there at the moment for over $24K. They must also be spewing after seeing what the current lot went for.

I'll sit back and wait...:)

[HowardSmall]

Wow, some good prices there. Under $20K for an almost new 6x6... They're getting affordable...

But add rego, insurance, 20l per 100km on road, not to mention maintenance (parts?, 6 tyres)... I think you need deep pockets


Howard

[isuzutoo-eh]

Ah, the price of instant gratification...

[russellrovers]

Yep, they must be crying now with the latest lot going for well under $10K, and there are plenty trying to be sold privately for $12 to $14K - they are stuffed now...

There are even 6x6's being sold privately - theres on there at the moment for over $24K. They must also be spewing after seeing what the current lot went for.

I'll sit back and wait...:)
hi there on flee bay for 500 $ you cant get much cheaper than that jim

[Grants]

Word is that it will be after September before all Perenties are replaced by GayWagens in the NT.
Went past the yard the other day where they stack their auction lots and they are building up a collection- so expect Winnellie to feature in auction soon--that is of course if they don't truck them down south to get better prices than what us topenders are prepared to pay :mad:

[Bushy049]

Anyone know how roughly many landys are left to sell of????

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[isuzutoo-eh]

Over Two Thousand!

[MattyGM]

Anyone know how roughly many landys are left to sell of????

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Email received in February this year from Grays:

G'day Matthew

We have held a sale every month for these ex military vehicles since February 2013 and our advice is that there will be many more to come.

Regards

Brian

[Bushy049]

Well with any luck the will keep dropping in price, and they will decide to have a wa auction

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[Disco Muppet]

There's one that's been picked up by what looks like a builders apprentice locally, working on a job just down the road from my uni, I drive past it every day :D
Looks like a GS, soft top, early style bar, winch and spotties now.
Makes me jealous :D

[87County]

Well with any luck the will keep dropping in price, and they will decide to have a wa auction

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I thought that grays had a WA auction last year didn't they ?

[Homestar]

But add rego, insurance, 20l per 100km on road, not to mention maintenance (parts?, 6 tyres)... I think you need deep pockets


Howard

I already own a 101 that does 20 per 100 and has tyres on it worth $4K - can't see the difference really. If you want budget motoring, go buy a crappy jappy 4 cylinder puss box.:D

[Homestar]

hi there on flee bay for 500 $ you cant get much cheaper than that jim

Link?:)

[Cliffy]

Yep, just one WA auction.
WA destined to get G wagons in 2114...
Plenty over here (quite a collection at Palmer barracks all lined up) but no news from grays.
I'll hit them up tomorrow.
My LRPV and Gunbuggy are happy to get some attention.
PV needs to be mobile for April 25th

[ggscadet]

Will be interested to hear how you go Cliffy, we've had one auction here in Perth and there was'nt much on offer. When I saw a heap pof Mogs, Macks and Rovers and in the rail yard at Kewdale going east I contacted Defence and the Minister and got no where. One or two Gs appearing around Irwin but I don't think anyones holding thier breath.

[DeeJay]

Yep, just one WA auction.
WA destined to get G wagons in 2114...
Plenty over here (quite a collection at Palmer barracks all lined up) but no news from grays.
I'll hit them up tomorrow.
My LRPV and Gunbuggy are happy to get some attention.
PV needs to be mobile for April 25th



Wow, that's a fair wait !!:p Are they driving them over in low 1st?

[Mick_Marsh]

Wow, that's a fair wait !!:p Are they driving them over in low 1st?
Look at it this way, they're going to be is service for a long time.

[Cliffy]

Haha! Yes a joke folks.
Although some reserve units in the East have traded their 110's there are no whispers about any coming here.
A few "examples" of the new vehicles are here for mechanic familiarisation.
So not sure if the will even stay here.
We still have a lot of 110 fleet in WA but grays in their infinite wisdom are shipping them all to Minto.
Just like the 90's all over again when all surplus was sent east or destroyed.
You guys would cry if you new what was burned in Midland. Some VERY important historical items were just saved by the skin of their teeth!

[MattyGM]

Haha! Yes a joke folks.
Although some reserve units in he East have traded their 110's there are no whispers about any coming here.
A few "examples" of the new vehicles are here for mechanic familiarisation.
So not sure if the will even stay here.
We still have a lot of 110 fleet in WA but grays in their infinite wisdom are shipping them all to Minto.
Just like the 90's all over again when all surplus was sent east of destroyed.
You guys would cry if you new what was burned in Midland. Some VERY important historical items were just saved by the skin of their teeth!

Bureaucrats have a lot to answer for.....

[Blknight.aus]

Wow, that's a fair wait !!:p Are they driving them over in low 1st?

nahh, they just cant handle the drive over it takes that long to keep the parts up to them to keep em rolling, and the further west you go the longer the part delays get.

[Cliffy]

WA = Wait Awhile

[Bushy049]

WA = Wait Awhile

Or just miss out altogether, it's the WA way, bit rough considering we prop up the rest of the country :D

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[HowardSmall]

I already own a 101 that does 20 per 100 and has tyres on it worth $4K - can't see the difference really. If you want budget motoring, go buy a crappy jappy 4 cylinder puss box.:D



or a TD5 Defender which uses half that fuel...


But maybe you have deep pockets? Good luck to you...


Howard

[Homestar]

or a TD5 Defender which uses half that fuel...


But maybe you have deep pockets? Good luck to you...


Howard

Not deep pockets, just carefully budgeted so I can afford the toys I want. :)

[Cliffy]

Vote Palmer United!

[boa]

First. Vic Roads did not recognize its Vin number not in system so no authority to drive unregistered vehicle. Many hours spent to try and fix this Grays were trying there best. In the end gave up an caught train to greys to see if we could solve it there. Got there about 10 to 4 spoke to them and they said I would not be happy. They were right in the time I had spoken to them and arriving the vehicle had been damaged. Someone had put a big hole in the drivers door. The option was get my money back. As they could not tell me how long to fix. The other problem was it was the brand new one in Vic absolutely as it was built. So know I wait for another one. It was the expensive one. Not sure what will happen to it now.

[cinan]

First. Vic Roads did not recognize its Vin number not in system so no authority to drive unregistered vehicle. Many hours spent to try and fix this Grays were trying there best. In the end gave up an caught train to greys to see if we could solve it there. Got there about 10 to 4 spoke to them and they said I would not be happy. They were right in the time I had spoken to them and arriving the vehicle had been damaged. Someone had put a big hole in the drivers door. The option was get my money back. As they could not tell me how long to fix. The other problem was it was the brand new one in Vic absolutely as it was built. So know I wait for another one. It was the expensive one. Not sure what will happen to it now.
Boa, I would be going back to them and asking them for a $2000 discount, take it to a panel beater, get the door fixed and get them to spray it with the correct paint to match the camp. Assuming no structural damage and that it is just the door. Those vehicles were great and I am sure Grays just want the problem to go away.

[DeeJay]

First. Vic Roads did not recognize its Vin number not in system so no authority to drive unregistered vehicle. Many hours spent to try and fix this Grays were trying there best. In the end gave up an caught train to greys to see if we could solve it there. Got there about 10 to 4 spoke to them and they said I would not be happy. They were right in the time I had spoken to them and arriving the vehicle had been damaged. Someone had put a big hole in the drivers door. The option was get my money back. As they could not tell me how long to fix. The other problem was it was the brand new one in Vic absolutely as it was built. So know I wait for another one. It was the expensive one. Not sure what will happen to it now.



Jeez mate!! You came from Perth to Melb?? Why not just get Greys to ship you another door??

[Mick_Marsh]

First. Vic Roads did not recognize its Vin number not in system so no authority to drive unregistered vehicle. Many hours spent to try and fix this Grays were trying there best. In the end gave up an caught train to greys to see if we could solve it there. Got there about 10 to 4 spoke to them and they said I would not be happy. They were right in the time I had spoken to them and arriving the vehicle had been damaged. Someone had put a big hole in the drivers door. The option was get my money back. As they could not tell me how long to fix. The other problem was it was the brand new one in Vic absolutely as it was built. So know I wait for another one. It was the expensive one. Not sure what will happen to it now.
It will be fixed and auctioned off again.

Just a note when dealing with Vicroads, they will have no record of the VIN. This will be confusing as they are not new (2014) cars. Just explain to the Vicroads rep it is an ex-army Landrover from the government auctions and has never been registered.
They will understand. Oh, and ring up and get your permit over the phone. It's emailed to you within the hour.
Call 13 11 71. (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/UnregisteredVehiclePermit.htm)

[boa]

It will be fixed and auctioned off again.

Just a note when dealing with Vicroads, they will have no record of the VIN. This will be confusing as they are not new (2014) cars. Just explain to the Vicroads rep it is an ex-army Landrover from the government auctions and has never been registered.
They will understand. Oh, and ring up and get your permit over the phone. It's emailed to you within the hour.
Call 13 11 71. (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModificationsAndDefects/UnregisteredVehiclePermit.htm) I had the people from Vic on the phone with Grays to explain (my mobile to sort it )Vic Roads would not budge. That is crazy. I need to change my profile I am now in Melbourne. Very frustrated as for options they Just wanted me to go. I spent the night in a motel hoping to get it fixed.Did not work.

[Mick_Marsh]

I had the people from Vic on the phone with Grays to explain (my mobile to sort it )Vic Roads would not budge. That is crazy. I need to change my profile I am now in Melbourne. Very frustrated as for options they Just wanted me to go. I spent the night in a motel hoping to get it fixed.Did not work.
I have had no troubles getting UVP's. In fact, when registering the brown Merc., Vicroads said I didn't need one but I pointed out their website said I did, so they sold me one.

[Barefoot Dave]

Jeez, Boa. bit of a rough trot.
Stick with it mate, You will be very happy you did.
Dave.

[neophyteguy]

Hey Boa, I sure hope you get that thing sorted! I'm sure it'll all come together soon.....

Also, does anyone know why this went for so much?

Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 9&#47;1990 Auction &#40;0028-5009036&#41; | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0028-5009036/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990)

I was just having a look through some of the old results and saw this. I looked through the sales threads for that period and didn't see anything about it.

Cheers!
Neo

[DeeJay]

Hey Boa, I sure hope you get that thing sorted! I'm sure it'll all come together soon.....

Also, does anyone know why this went for so much?

Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 9/1990 Auction (0028-5009036) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0028-5009036/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990)

I was just having a look through some of the old results and saw this. I looked through the sales threads for that period and didn't see anything about it.

Cheers!
Neo


That was the one that raised my eyebrow too !!


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/military-vehicles-general/192029-expensive-perentie-winch.html



I think the consensus was a bidding war..

[MattyGM]

That was the one that raised my eyebrow too !!


http://www.aulro.com/afvb/military-vehicles-general/192029-expensive-perentie-winch.html



I think the consensus was a bidding war..

Also it may have been a rebuilt one, they fetch quite high prices.

[neophyteguy]

I guess everything is a possibility, but (just looking at the pics) there really doesn't seem to be anything under the hood that looks new and I thought they reset the mileage when a rebuild was completed.

Here's my thoughts (FWIW :-)

- Perhaps the new owner used the vehicle in an overseas theatre and bought it for sentimental reasons

- Or, it's actually stuffed full of "contraband" from overseas and only a couple of people new this

Either way, I hope the new owner will enjoy their new Perentie!

[Grants]

J.B - Greenacre NSW19/02/2014 5.12.07 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)AU$19,0091119/02/2014 4.17.26 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)J.D - Bulleen VIC19/02/2014 5.11.57 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)AU$18,2091019/02/2014 2.33.08 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)K.G - Kanimbla NSW19/02/2014 4.59.42 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)AU$12,0091019/02/2014 2.23.19 (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)

KG Kanimbla thought he was on a winner , until JD guzzumped with an extra 50%, followed 1 minute later by JB Greenacre with a winning punt.

Strange thing was that JD and JB didn't feature in earlier bids ( like as thought they didn't follow this beast or were playing coy) then at the penultimate moment they launched themselves . Why?

I'm with you neophyteguy.... Own up JD and JB ! , what was the contraband?

[DeeJay]

J.B - Greenacre NSW19/02/2014 5.12.07 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)AU$19,0091119/02/2014 4.17.26 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)J.D - Bulleen VIC19/02/2014 5.11.57 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)AU$18,2091019/02/2014 2.33.08 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)K.G - Kanimbla NSW19/02/2014 4.59.42 PM AEDT (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)AU$12,0091019/02/2014 2.23.19 (http://www.graysonline.com/changetimezone.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2flot%2f0028-5009036%2ftransport-trucks-and-trailers%2fland-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1990%3ftab%3dBidding%2bHistory)

KG Kanimbla thought he was on a winner , until JD guzzumped with an extra 50%, followed 1 minute later by JB Greenacre with a winning punt.

Strange thing was that JD and JB didn't feature in earlier bids ( like as thought they didn't follow this beast or were playing coy) then at the penultimate moment they launched themselves . Why?

I'm with you neophyteguy.... Own up JD and JB ! , what was the contraband?



Nope, cant agree..


The bidding history indicates only your last bid, not the 20 or so you- and others made. Next auction, follow the bidding & you will see. KG Kanimbla probably had an autobid & JD could have chucked in 10 bids, only his successful bid shows up, so he only got outbid by $100, not 50%
Looking at the time - 5.12PM - & I bet if I did a really anal analysis:) it will show that these bidders lost out on earlier vehicles and jumped on the remaining vehicles & simply got excited in the moment - after all it is an auction & very easy- I've gone $500 over my max a few times- to press that button...
It wasn't a rebuild.

[MattyGM]

Minto will have a large number of disassembled vehicles from the sound of it and for the good folks in the NT there will be another auction in Darwin this month :)

[303gunner]

Got there about 10 to 4 spoke to them and they said I would not be happy. They were right in the time I had spoken to them and arriving the vehicle had been damaged. Someone had put a big hole in the drivers door. The option was get my money back. As they could not tell me how long to fix. The other problem was it was the brand new one in Vic absolutely as it was built. So know I wait for another one. It was the expensive one. Not sure what will happen to it now.
Well, it took them less than a month to fix it.


202-216 is re-offered for sale this month in Melb with a nice looking driver's door. Well, actually, they've re-used the same pics from last month!


Last Month: http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0008-3005075/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-2-1996
This month: Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 10/1996 Auction (0002-3005416) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0002-3005416/transport-trucks-and-trailers/ex-military-land-rover-110-4x4-6x6-trailers'spr=true)

[DBT]

Not sure if this topic is ok as I was surprised to not see any threads for previous auctions. Unless I'm looking in the wrong place.

Is it ok to discuss the auction in progress here?

This one is a little different than previous. At least the Minto catalog is. I haven't looked at the other states yet.

[sheerluck]

Long running thread here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/military-vehicles-general/165101-army-vehicle-disposal.html

[DBT]

Ahh! There it is.

Apologies.

[DBT]

Minto seem to only have incomplete vehicles this month.

Including an RFSV labelled as "Cargo", which it clearly is not.

[Mick_Marsh]

And the 6x6 cargo is labeled as an Air Defence.

[DeeJay]

Long running thread here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/military-vehicles-general/165101-army-vehicle-disposal.html

Hilarious !! That is this thread.:D

[sheerluck]

Hilarious !! That is this thread.:D

DBT had created a new thread, which I pointed him to, and subsequently the mods have merged the threads together.

Yep, funny.

[DeeJay]

Is anyone going to Minto to look at the wrecks as I need a small favour:angel:


Thanks,
David

[isuzutoo-eh]

Is anyone going to Minto to look at the wrecks as I need a small favour:angel:


Thanks,
David

I intend to, not that I have a need to since I bought one last round..
PM me with your request if you'd like...

[Cliffy]

Do the log books state why they became wrecks?
Hate to get a wreck only to find motor or GB or both dead. The rest is all fixable.
I know that's the chance you take but I'm all about minimising risk.
Hoping to get something this time around~~!:p

[isuzutoo-eh]

Hey Cliffy, sometimes the chassis are fubar too...

[87County]

Do the log books state why they became wrecks?
Hate to get a wreck only to find motor or GB or both dead. The rest is all fixable.
I know that's the chance you take but I'm all about minimising risk.
Hoping to get something this time around~~!:p

It's strange how we have different perceptions - to me the engine and gb are a minimal fix when compared to body & electrics - all hard work & time consuming. Isuzu dealers are advertising complete engine rebuild kits for about $1200. As far as wrecks go, I'd be trying to get one that was good in the chassis/body.

[303gunner]

It's strange how we have different perceptions.
Indeed. Many of these vehicles are not "wrecks", but simply incomplete, and not operating. Some have been disassembled for Quarantine cleaning and not put back together, some have been cannabalised for parts that may have been unavailable or took too long to arrive on back order. Some will, inevitably be accident damaged or rust affected that they will never again be capable of getting back on the road (but might be OK for a farm or boat ramp!).