Army vehicle disposal

[Cliffy]

It's strange how we have different perceptions - to me the engine and gb are a minimal fix when compared to body & electrics - all hard work & time consuming. Isuzu dealers are advertising complete engine rebuild kits for about $1200. As far as wrecks go, I'd be trying to get one that was good in the chassis/body.

Yes your are 100% right.
Can I rebuild the motor and gearbox, yep (and I have trade contacts so cheap). But call me crazy, I'd rather stuff around with electrics that mechanicals.

Isuzu, that's why I need eye's on down there......any one going to view tomorrow?:cool:

[87County]

Yes your are 100% right.
Can I rebuild the motor and gearbox, yep (and I have trade contacts so cheap). But call me crazy, I'd rather stuff around with electrics that mechanicals.

Isuzu, that's why I need eye's on down there......any one going to view tomorrow?:cool:

Cliiff,

I think that it may be better to arrange a holiday over east that coincides with a sale and have a look for yourself - you cannot generally start them at Minto.

While a lot have been bought sight unseen, I for one, am not rich enough to take that chance. There have been resales by disappointed purchasers over east that you can start & drive.

The usual auctions at Minto (not the current Apr 2014 one) have road registerable ones with "blueslips" so you know that those ones at least function although as I have previously posted, I have met one person bought a "blueslipped" example with a dodgy gearbox.

That being said, if it has NSW "blueslip" a vehicle on offer has a good chance of being OK. Whether I would take a chance on it sight unseen would depend on price and in my opinion the prices aren't yet low enough to do that.

I won't being going for a look this time.

[Bearman]

I would be a bit wary of that Survey in the latest Minto auction. Check the chassis number and the number on the compliance plate. They have omitted the A when the chassis was restamped presumably after repairs. Might make it a bit difficult to register!

[Mick_Marsh]

I would be a bit wary of that Survey in the latest Minto auction. Check the chassis number and the number on the compliance plate. They have omitted the A when the chassis was restamped presumably after repairs. Might make it a bit difficult to register!
Not a problem. Stamp the "A" yourself or get it restamped.
As long as, at the end of the day, what is stamped on the chassis is what is on the receipt.

[Cliffy]

Cliiff,

I think that it may be better to arrange a holiday over east that coincides with a sale and have a look for yourself - you cannot generally start them at Minto.

While a lot have been bought sight unseen, I for one, am not rich enough to take that chance. There have been resales by disappointed purchasers over east that you can start & drive.

The usual auctions at Minto (not the current Apr 2014 one) have road registerable ones with "blueslips" so you know that those ones at least function although as I have previously posted, I have met one person bought a "blueslipped" example with a dodgy gearbox.

That being said, if it has NSW "blueslip" a vehicle on offer has a good chance of being OK. Whether I would take a chance on it sight unseen would depend on price and in my opinion the prices aren't yet low enough to do that.

I won't being going for a look this time.

Agree, I have long service leave and normal as well as HR on me for not taking leave so that's could be on the cards in June or July. NSW blue slip would allow me to get rego and drive back (with another No5:p) taking a week or two.
The problem is I am generally impatient and I can't wait to get a wreck or going concern into my shed.
At the end of the day I can fix anything on them anyway but the less I have to the better. There are a few ARN's I am chasing as well but they have not left WA yet:mad:
I was thinking of taking Monday off and trying to get a cheap ticket but probably better to wait a month or two.
Yeah, there are a couple in the private market that must have issues as they are still for sale and dropping in price.
A very kind soul has aready given me the inside track on the Minto cars and if I can get a 2nd opinion then I will have a few that I will go for.
There's also a couple of units in Qld I will be looking at.

I'll trust in the Landy Gods to steer something good my way.:cool:

[ggscadet]

Think your on the right track Cliffy, I'm hoping the vehicles left here will eventually be sold here but confidence isnt high. I'v also notice the amount of wrecks now appearing at the auctions, even Minto and even though we can't get another auction here we are sending some to Auckland, I'm actually starting to feel a bit put out as a West Aussie. Fingers crossed for a decent auction here sometime.

[Cliffy]

If you see the prices drop below $3k I recon they'll do more local (WA) auctions.
I keep forgetting to ask my contact at grays if they will do more here.
Unfortunately it doesn't look good in the short to medium term.
Personally, I can't wait till then but there's no reason I can't buy anothet:D

[Landy Smurf]

I wouldnt mind one that still drives but is a wreck for a paddock vehicle but missed the boat to look at them

[Barefoot Dave]

Any thoughts on converting a Registered Carryall/ Personnel carrier and a D2 to realistic cash to save those forlorn Senior Commanders?
:(

[Mick_Marsh]

Any thoughts on converting a Registered Carryall/ Personnel carrier and a D2 to realistic cash to save those forlorn Senior Commanders?
:(
Mortgage the house.
What's more important? (I hope you have your priorities right.)

[DBT]

Any thoughts on converting a Registered Carryall/ Personnel carrier and a D2 to realistic cash to save those forlorn Senior Commanders?
:(

Pardon my ignorance, what's a Carryall?

Regardless, I won't have the cash in time for this round. :(

[DBT]

Anyone bidding on the Minto RFSV?

... err, I mean the "cargo of interest". :cool:

I wonder what's wrong with it, aside from no canopy, rear ROPS, rear seat and missing a data plate.

[Barefoot Dave]

Mortgage the house.
What's more important? (I hope you have your priorities right.)

Thanks Mick, i appreciate your concern. It is part of my business plan but I expected these in a couple of months, not this early.
I won't be doing anything silly, the bank won't let me ;)

DBT:
"What's a carryall?
Anyone bidding on the Minto RFSV?

... err, I mean the "cargo of interest". :cool:

I wonder what's wrong with it, aside from no canopy, rear ROPS, rear seat and missing a data plate.

Carryall is the correct name for a 5 door station wagon, excluding the Senior Commander (FFR, With Winch). With Series 2, a carryall was a 3 door Troopy.

RFSV:
Tenix rebuild, prob 5-6 yrs ago, a bit knocked around since then.
Cracked and repaired main ROPS hoop
Unserviceable (US)- Both near-side tyres (prob out of date), 1 spare rim

Missing- Rear roll hoop, make pattern off middle hoop in larger dia pipe
Right foot vent
Canopy $1500 approx
Door tops
Driving lights
Torn seat
Air compressor
Fuse cover
Been stored for nearly 18months when the others were upgraded 'With Mission Kit' .
Cam net rack
Canopy sticks
Prob missing all of its' CES.

I'd also expect repaired chassis cracks near the rear suspension and cross members.

[DeeJay]

Well the auctions finished again today.
Interesting to note that the new 6x6 that sold to an Aulro member for $24,009 last auction that had a damaged door & was credited back, just sold again for $36,409. Must have been quite some repair:eek:

[juddy]

Thanks Mick, i appreciate your concern. It is part of my business plan but I expected these in a couple of months, not this early.
I won't be doing anything silly, the bank won't let me ;)

DBT:
"What's a carryall?
Anyone bidding on the Minto RFSV?

... err, I mean the "cargo of interest". :cool:

I wonder what's wrong with it, aside from no canopy, rear ROPS, rear seat and missing a data plate.

Carryall is the correct name for a 5 door station wagon, excluding the Senior Commander (FFR, With Winch). With Series 2, a carryall was a 3 door Troopy.

RFSV:
Tenix rebuild, prob 5-6 yrs ago, a bit knocked around since then.
Cracked and repaired main ROPS hoop
Unserviceable (US)- Both near-side tyres (prob out of date), 1 spare rim

Missing- Rear roll hoop, make pattern off middle hoop in larger dia pipe
Right foot vent N/A
Canopy $1500 approx
Door tops $600 New
Driving lights $200
Torn seat 2nd hand $150
Air compressor
Fuse cover $120 Genuine
Been stored for nearly 18months when the others were upgraded 'With Mission Kit' . ???
Cam net rack N/A
Canopy sticks $400 Genuine
Prob missing all of its' CES. N/A

I'd also expect repaired chassis cracks near the rear suspension and cross members.

Missing- Rear roll hoop, make pattern off middle hoop in larger dia pipe
Right foot vent N/A
Canopy $1500 approx
Door tops $600 New
Driving lights $200
Torn seat 2nd hand $150
Air compressor
Fuse cover $120 Genuine
Been stored for nearly 18months when the others were upgraded 'With Mission Kit' . ???
Cam net rack N/A
Canopy sticks $400 Genuine
Prob missing all of its' CES. N/A

I'd also expect repaired chassis cracks near the rear suspension and cross members.[/QUOTE]

[isuzutoo-eh]

For the foot vents, do a search for scupper vents. Common on boats and caravans, I bought a pair from a ship chandler that are so near bang on for the RFSV ones that a lick of paint would make them perfect.

[DBT]

Someone paid just over $11k for it.

Didn't see what the other incompletes went for.

Wonder if it would have been economical to purchase an incomplete FFR as well and wreck it for parts to put on the RFSV.

Different ROPS/ canopy I know, but it might make for a good "stealth" RFSV.

:cool:

Mmm ... cheap RFSV. :p

[Mick_Marsh]

Well the auctions finished again today.
Interesting to note that the new 6x6 that sold to an Aulro member for $24,009 last auction that had a damaged door & was credited back, just sold again for $36,409. Must have been quite some repair:eek:
Tell me about it.

[HowardSmall]

My internet died the last day of the latest auction. Anyone know what the Brisbane FFRs went for? In particular lots 8 9 &10.
Thanks, Howard

[Barefoot Dave]

My internet died the last day of the latest auction. Anyone know what the Brisbane FFRs went for? In particular lots 8 9 &10.
Thanks, Howard
G'Day Howard. All prices + 16%
Lot 08: $5609
Lot 09: $5709
Lot 10:$6109

[Barefoot Dave]

Someone paid just over $11k for it.

Didn't see what the other incompletes went for.

Wonder if it would have been economical to purchase an incomplete FFR as well and wreck it for parts to put on the RFSV.

Different ROPS/ canopy I know, but it might make for a good "stealth" RFSV.

:cool:

Mmm ... cheap RFSV. :p
G'Day mate.
There are heaps of differences if you want ot make a RFSV clone, info listed here:
L/R 110 4x4 Regional Force Surveilance Vehicle (RFSV) (http://remlr.com/forum/index.php'topic=1213.msg20322#msg20322)

If you want to make a superficial copy;
Start with an FFR with winch
Add Brush bars along wings and sills
Add spare tyre mounts to diagonal brace bars on ROPS
replace rear seats with side storage bins
Add 1988-1990 90'43lt fuel tank, brackets and fuel system under pax seat.
Foot vents. Izusutoo-eh has discovered some suitable units for sale at marine shops as scuppers!
2 x Dual jerry carriers
Split rims (ouch on the price) with Xtra grip High-miler tyres
boat racks if you must.
Have fun!

[DBT]

Hi BDave,

I was thinking more along the lines of restoring an incomplete RFSV, rather than upgrading an FFR. By scavenging generic parts from the donor FFR.

In the case of the April Minto RFSV, could you pull the original ROPS & hoops and replace with generic and canopy from an FFR?

[Barefoot Dave]

Yep, you could.
Personally I would keep the RFSV front hoop, it is much better than the FFR. The canopy will still fit, just not as snug.
If substituting then you may find some variation in the baseplate of the ROPS where it sits down in the tub: RFSV sits inside , FFR sits over.
All ROPS are individual fit so you might need to redrill/ clearence the holes.
Other than that, no dramas.

[boa]

Well the auctions finished again today.
Interesting to note that the new 6x6 that sold to an Aulro member for $24,009 last auction that had a damaged door & was credited back, just sold again for $36,409. Must have been quite some repair:eek:

Yes it was not that bad but I had two people from grays saying the only option was refund. I was at there site. The damage happened after the first auction closed. So I was told they could not deliver it to me. I did not bid on it second time round.

[Mick_Marsh]

Yes it was not that bad but I had two people from grays saying the only option was refund. I was at there site. The damage happened after the first auction closed. So I was told they could not deliver it to me. I did not bid on it second time round.
I suspect it wasn't a repair. They very probably just swapped the door with another vehicle.

[trebor110]

Does anyone know who bought this RFSV (ARN): 51640 Land Rover 110, 4x4 Soft Top - 05/1991 Auction (0003-9001127) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0003-9001127)

Seems odd but I purchased 40 RFSV bull bars a few years ago and I have a odd left hand side bar, The above RFSV is missing one.
Surely not a match.. bull bars sold in Melbourne and RFSV sold in Perth.


Rob

[juddy]

Does anyone know who bought this RFSV (ARN): 51640 Land Rover 110, 4x4 Soft Top - 05/1991 Auction (0003-9001127) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0003-9001127)

Seems odd but I purchased 40 RFSV bull bars a few years ago and I have a odd left hand side bar, The above RFSV is missing one.
Surely not a match.. bull bars sold in Melbourne and RFSV sold in Perth.


Rob

Probably not bothered about the missing one , or the new owner might make one up. I know a lot of the perenties sold are having the mil stuff taken off.

[bill newman]

So I hear they are all keyless ignition, what is everyones thoughts on security (how would you fit a key barrel).

And anyone know if the doors lock?
ignition switches with 2 keys can be seen on ebay and seem simple to fit--I will let you know in a few days,as I will endeavour to fit one.

[spudboy]

See here for some information on how to fit a key to a Perentie: Removing-24V-generator-adding-a-key-to-my-Ex-Army-110 (http://daviddeere.net.au/dnnd2/en-us/Blog/Post/294/Removing-24V-generator-adding-a-key-to-my-Ex-Army-110)

HTH
David

[DeeJay]

If anyone wants a good carrier for a Perentie, or Unimog to Melb from Minto, PM me & I will reply with this guys phone no. He was very professional & no fuss about bringing it into our small court, I was able to roll it straight into the drive. He subcontracted to the people I arranged delivery with.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/1217.jpg

[Mick_Marsh]

If anyone wants a good carrier for a Perentie, or Unimog to Melb from Minto, PM me & I will reply with this guys phone no. He was very professional & no fuss about bringing it into our small court, I was able to roll it straight into the drive. He subcontracted to the people I arranged delivery with.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/1217.jpg
Please PM me his details.

[ggscadet]

Well I got quite excited today with the news we would finally get another auction here in Perth then got the inside word that its just going to be a couple of ex sasr clapped out atvs and one whole trailer. Meanwhile a whole heap of gear coming up over east, if this keeps up I'm going to get a complex.

[Cliffy]

Hahaha. Yeah I posted up on REMLR that there was going to be a Perth auction.
Yep u/s ATV's.

[Judo]

Next set of auctions starts tomorrow I see. Whoops, I was suppose to give my dad some notice as he's thinking about buying (a second) Isuzu 110.

Here's the VIC link.

http://www.graysonline.com/sale/3005648/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/ex-military-land-rovers-4x4-6x6-unimogs'tab=Inspection

[rangieman]

Ive found out where 3 ended up , And it sure is a hard retirement for them:eek: .
They ended up at a market garden farm/s in Pearcedale Vic towing trailers all day every day with all sorts of yobbos driving them

[Barefoot Dave]

Keep an eye on them Rangiman. W hen you see 2, then 1 in the paddock, pounce for a bargain! ;)

[DeeJay]

Ive found out where 3 ended up , And it sure is a hard retirement for them:eek: .
They ended up at a market garden farm/s in Pearcedale Vic towing trailers all day every day with all sorts of yobbos driving them


Looks tough, but in reality these market gardens don't bring in the harvest every month. Unless it is a big owner with various properties & different produce & rotating staff & equipment. Even then, winter is "down time".

[rangieman]

Looks tough, but in reality these market gardens don't bring in the harvest every month. Unless it is a big owner with various properties & different produce & rotating staff & equipment. Even then, winter is "down time".

Dave i go there at least 3 times a week ;), Yes the farm/s are 3 of them huge , These poor things never stop.
Funny thing one of the young blokes i was talking too said those things are heaps stronger than the hilux,s they had :cool:

[DT-P38]

Dave i go there at least 3 times a week ;), Yes the farm/s are 3 of them huge , These poor things never stop. Funny thing one of the young blokes i was talking too said those things are heaps stronger than the hilux,s they had :cool:

did you get one yet chris?

seems DJ has his in the shed already!

i am going down to Grays again on monday arvo. for a perve and to test my resolve (not to buy one!). anyone out there want pic's or info or anything on this bunch?

[rangieman]

did you get one yet chris?

seems DJ has his in the shed already!

i am going down to Grays again on monday arvo. for a perve and to test my resolve (not to buy one!). anyone out there want pic's or info or anything on this bunch?
No mate not yet :angel: i had a spy down there today;)
Dont stress everyone will know when i do;)

[Cliffy]

What's the go with the units in Qld.......big $ already.
$6K and it's a WA buyer!:D
Mine may have been caught in a train derailment.:o:o:o
Should be here next week! Got some good news about it to break!

[ggscadet]

Cliffy you man of mystery you

[DBT]

What's the go with the units in Qld.......big $ already.
$6K and it's a WA buyer!:D



That one is also missing its fuel cap. :eek:

[Lafia]

Question for those that have purchased any of these in previous auctions: What's the general consensus on how they've turned out when you've got them home and had time to play with them? Any regrets? Or pleasant surprises?
The reason for asking is that a mate in WA has expressed interest in buying one but is a bit wary of bidding on something in Syd/Melb that he can't go and inspect himself.
Most of the comments that I've seen on here appear to be happy owners. Still the case?

Cheers

[Mick_Marsh]

Question for those that have purchased any of these in previous auctions: What's the general consensus on how they've turned out when you've got them home and had time to play with them? Any regrets? Or pleasant surprises?
The reason for asking is that a mate in WA has expressed interest in buying one but is a bit wary of bidding on something in Syd/Melb that he can't go and inspect himself.
Most of the comments that I've seen on here appear to be happy owners. Still the case?

Cheers
Go in with the understanding you may not be happy. Or, more to the point, your missus may not be happy. There have ben more than a few appearing on ebay for this reason.
You may be disappointed with it's lack of power. It ain't a Ford F truck. You may be disappointed with it's thirst for fuel. After all, the ADF don't worry about fuel. You might be disappointed with the lack of comfort. Their spartan appointments. There is a reason they don't have a radio cassette player. You wouldn't hear it. You may be annoyed with all the broken or missing bits. The little things that you constantly notice needing attention but, hey, it's a Landrover.
But, if it's for you, one drive and your hooked.

There are people on this forum and REMLR who go to have a sticky at these auctions. Get them to advise you which ones not to buy.

[hot rover]

Go in with the understanding you may not be happy. Or, more to the point, your missus may not be happy. There have ben more than a few appearing on ebay for this reason.
You may be disappointed with it's lack of power. It ain't a Ford F truck. You may be disappointed with it's thirst for fuel. After all, the ADF don't worry about fuel. You might be disappointed with the lack of comfort. Their spartan appointments. There is a reason they don't have a radio cassette player. You wouldn't hear it. You may be annoyed with all the broken or missing bits. The little things that you constantly notice needing attention but, hey, it's a Landrover.
But, if it's for you, one drive and your hooked.

There are people on this forum and REMLR who go to have a sticky at these auctions. Get them to advise you which ones not to buy.

I would agree with mick on this. The only disappointment I have is I didn't buy one sooner. My advise is if you can't loo
K for your self get some one who knows what they are looking at to check them out.
Cheers
Rod

[DBT]

Only 3 "complete" FFRs in Minto this month. :(


Compared to 7 in Brisbane.


2 of the 3 Minto FFRs are missing all their antenna brackets.


Are these hard to source?

[Lafia]

Go in with the understanding you may not be happy. Or, more to the point, your missus may not be happy. There have ben more than a few appearing on ebay for this reason.
You may be disappointed with it's lack of power. It ain't a Ford F truck. You may be disappointed with it's thirst for fuel. After all, the ADF don't worry about fuel. You might be disappointed with the lack of comfort. Their spartan appointments. There is a reason they don't have a radio cassette player. You wouldn't hear it. You may be annoyed with all the broken or missing bits. The little things that you constantly notice needing attention but, hey, it's a Landrover.
But, if it's for you, one drive and your hooked.

There are people on this forum and REMLR who go to have a sticky at these auctions. Get them to advise you which ones not to buy.

Thanks for that. Comfort, speed and power - in my 300tdi I'd say these are adequate. I'd assume the Isuzu 3.9 has more power and probably worse fuel consumption. I'm pretty happy with fuel consumption in the 300tdi though. And the repairs......well that's half the fun of owning one.
Cheers

[Mick_Marsh]

Thanks for that. Comfort, speed and power - in my 300tdi I'd say these are adequate. I'd assume the Isuzu 3.9 has more power and probably worse fuel consumption. I'm pretty happy with fuel consumption in the 300tdi though. And the repairs......well that's half the fun of owning one.
Cheers
Well, I'm very disappointed with the performance of the turbo'd Perentie. The diff ratio's and the fact that it is 1% off 4t TARE is probably the reason of my disappointment. The non turbo'd 4x4's seem to go better but they are a little over half the TARE, 2.5t I think. And they have taller diffs.
I must get a FFR.
I passengered in Breaking Bad's 300Tdi whilst towing a series Landrover on a trailer. I thought it did very well.
I'd like to try one of these in a Perentie.
4.4L Twin Turbo V8 - Range Rover - Engines - Eagle Auto Parts (http://www.eagleautoparts.com.au/eagle-engine-gallery-range-rover-170703803764.html)
I might be a little happier then.

[87County]

Well, I'm very disappointed with the performance of the turbo'd Perentie. The diff ratio's and the fact that it is 1% off 4t TARE is probably the reason of my disappointment. The non turbo'd 4x4's seem to go better but they are a little over half the TARE, 2.5t I think. And they have taller diffs.
I must get a FFR.
I passengered in Breaking Bad's 300Tdi whilst towing a series Landrover on a trailer. I thought it did very well.
I'd like to try one of these in a Perentie.
4.4L Twin Turbo V8 - Range Rover - Engines - Eagle Auto Parts (http://www.eagleautoparts.com.au/eagle-engine-gallery-range-rover-170703803764.html)
I might be a little happier then.

Mick, it sounds like you're pulling quite a heavy weight there. I think a 300tdi would be out of puff as well .....

As you know, turbo-ing the 4BD1 isn't always quite as simple as just the mechanical installation of said turbo.

If it is the shortness (lowness ?) of the gearing that's causing the problem, it is possible to fit larger diameter tyres on D1 wheels to usefully raise the gearing to better utilise the power.

.... and there's always a duramax :)

[Mick_Marsh]

Mick, it sounds like you're pulling quite a heavy weight there. I think a 300tdi would be out of puff as well .....

As you know, turbo-ing the 4BD1 isn't always quite as simple as just the mechanical installation of said turbo.

If it is the shortness (lowness ?) of the gearing that's causing the problem, it is possible to fit larger diameter tyres on D1 wheels to usefully raise the gearing to better utilise the power.
Yes. I was quite surprised at the weighbridge. This is my first foray into diesel ownership.
Hopefully, it will tow another 3t. The GCM is 7.1t
It's already running 7.50 16's. I don't want to change the tyres. I might investigate the possibility of changing the diffs but I don't want to move the stress somewhere else in the drive train.


.... and there's always a duramax :)
Wash your mouth out with soap!
You should be banned for comments like that.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Anyone going to Brisbane for the inspections tomorrow?

Would be interested in a report on the general condition etc of three FFR Lot#1 Lot#4 and Lot#5

Diana

[weeds]

Anyone going to Brisbane for the inspections tomorrow?

Would be interested in a report on the general condition etc of three FFR Lot#1 Lot#4 and Lot#5

Diana

I didn't realise there was one on this week.."......could pop down as it's just a few streets from my work

[DBT]

Anyone going to Brisbane for the inspections tomorrow?

Would be interested in a report on the general condition etc of three FFR Lot#1 Lot#4 and Lot#5

Diana

PM sent with my notes on those lots, Diana.

I was there last Friday and crawled over the 7 FFRs for a few hours.

As I'm a noob at this, I won't publish my observations here. Besides, at least one other forum member was there on Friday who is far more experienced than I. I won't name them, but they do have my eternal gratitude for the assistance they gave me.

One interesting observation of the GS models: one had a 24v generator in the engine bay. Fitted but no loom connected. Weird.

I def learned the importance of inspections, the condition of the vehicles varies considerably.

[weeds]

Anyone going to Brisbane for the inspections tomorrow?

Would be interested in a report on the general condition etc of three FFR Lot#1 Lot#4 and Lot#5

Diana

bumped into Dave while I was down there.........he will give your a god run down.

they are all rough and have faults and appear to have been off the road for some time

Lot 1 than Lot 5 than Lot 4....if I was buying based on a quick look, Lot 4 could be good value if it stays low....Dave has taken about a million pics of each car, started them and engaged PTO's if they had one fitted.

plenty of punters having a look

[Bushy049]

So the general condition overall is a bit rough? Will be interested to see how this reflects on final prices as they seem to be sitting fairly low at this point. Apart from a couple and the senior commander at about 9000 now

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[Bushy049]

Also have read a rumor of landys being auctioned off in Perth end of July... ??? Anyone heard this ??

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[Cliffy]

Could be true although I haven't heard anything.
I here tell there may be a major release of MB into the system around then.
There were quite a few parked up at Palmer but not sure if they shipped to Minto.
Murphy's law says now I have mine they'll dump plenty in WA.

[Bushy049]

I did wonder if you had played Murphys laws for the rest of us :)

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[Barefoot Dave]

I have detailed photos of all Brisbane vehicles available as a photo package.
All the usual places for rust and a few you might not have thought of.
Undercarriage/ drive train and chassis trouble spots.
Engine bay, ROPS mounts, storage locker internals, battery boxes and slides for FFRs.
All documentation: GM120, vehicle inspectioon sheets, dyno sheets (where available).
Minimum of 25 HD shots of the stuff you DON'T see on the listing
Burned to disc and Express posted.
PM for details.

[Barefoot Dave]

Bne Auctions ARN 230 033 GS with winch is missing 2 nuts off the Handbrake/ rear prop connection. Do NOT drive before repairing!!

[DBT]

If an auction vehicle has no logbook or service history (confirmed with Gray's none supplied), is there any way of retrieving service info etc, from ADF? Is there a central service database, or is the info lost forever?

Also, some logbooks are in terrible condition (unreadable). Same question applies ...

Thanks for any info.

[slug_burner]

If an auction vehicle has no logbook or service history (confirmed with Gray's none supplied), is there any way of retrieving service info etc, from ADF? Is there a central service database, or is the info lost forever?

Also, some logbooks are in terrible condition (unreadable). Same question applies ...

Thanks for any info.

There is no such service.

I doubt that the records are totally lost it is just a matter of having access to someone inside the system that can access the vehicles history on-line.

[Blknight.aus]

yes, there is, you just have to know how to get onto it or know someone who can get onto it and hope that the vehicle you are interested in hasnt had its details archived off and deleted.

[DBT]

Thanks for the advice guys.

Will be bidding for an FFR this auction. I have 5 on my watch list. Only 2 have readable paperwork. :(

But based on crawling over these ones, they are the ones I feel comfortable about.

Thanks again!

[slug_burner]

I'd be looking out for what you can see, the condition of the firewall and the rest of the body work. Of the 20 or so I had a look at 3 had rust holes in the firewall and most of the others had repairs where the edges of the repair were rusty. Many of the firewalls above the bonnet line had rust or poor repairs out at the sides under the windscreen. The GM120 will tell you about major repairs done while in service like gearbox changes, or oil seal changes, it will not tell you what the auctioneer has done to tart up the vehicle for the auction.

One vehicle I looked at appeared to be a body sitting on a new galvanised chassis with fasteners that still had their sheen. Most engines had been sprayed with a coat of black enamel but had been sprayed over poorly prepared/cleaned metal and already had flaking paint. The undersides were recently pressure washed without the usual coating of oil.

Generally the vehicles have been tarted up much like they would be on a secondhand car yard, but they can't get around the fact that some have very holey tarps that will need replacement.

Get the most complete vehicle with minimal work to get a roadworthy unless you are prepared to do some refurbishment for a vehicle you plan to keep for a long time. The history maybe interesting but what can you tell about a vehicle that has had three gearboxes. The best bit of info you might get from the maintenance history is when the last major repair was done that might explain why the odometer only shows less than 10,000km when the last repair was at 130k km.

Good luck to bidders.

[DBT]

The undersides were recently pressure washed without the usual coating of oil.

Hmm. I think they sprayed oil on the topside of one I looked at. I sat in the tub for a minute and got covered in grease from a thin film of it all through the tub. :mad:

My dilemma on final bid selection comes down to picking between units that have all their bits (incl. some very new bits), but felt & looked "tired" particularly in the cabin, instruments and trim. Vs one or 2 that felt tight / fresh, (eg all switches working!) but missing things like back seats, antenna mounts, spare wheels, batteries, interior lighting, etc.

Either way, they all need some TLC of some kind. But that's all part of the experience. :cool:

(Ps. Rust and oil leaks also considered in above)

[Judo]

Melbourne auction:



Vehicle Sale price + buyer prem +gst URL
Unimog crane $37,009 $43,152 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-3005648/
6x6 $16,109 $18,783 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0002-3005648/
6x6 $18,209 $21,232 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0003-3005648/
110 Wagon $16,509 $19,249 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0004-3005648/
110 FFR $6,209 $7,240 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0005-3005648/
110 FFR $6,109 $7,123 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0006-3005648/
110 FFR $6,209 $7,240 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0007-3005648/
110 FFR $7,309 $8,522 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0008-3005648/
110 FFR $9,209 $10,738 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0009-3005648/
110 FFR $7,409 $8,639 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0010-3005648/
110 FFR $6,309 $7,356 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0011-3005648/
110 Cargo $5,809 $6,773 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0012-3005648/
110 Cargo $8,009 $9,338 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0013-3005648/
110 Cargo $6,609 $7,706 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0014-3005648/
110 Cargo $8,409 $9,805 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0015-3005648/
110 Cargo $5,709 $6,657 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0016-3005648/
110 Cargo $5,609 $6,540 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0017-3005648/
110 Cargo $5,009 $5,840 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0018-3005648/
110 Cargo $5,909 $6,890 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0019-3005648/
110 Cargo $8,009 $9,338 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0020-3005648/
110 Cargo $7,309 $8,522 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0021-3005648/
110 Cargo $8,009 $9,338 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0022-3005648/
110 Cargo $7,109 $8,289 http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0023-3005648/

[spudboy]

Thanks for listing those prices. You're a legend Judo!

No collapse in the prices then, generally speaking.

[Mick_Marsh]

Thanks for listing those prices. You're a legend Judo!

No collapse in the prices then, generally speaking.
I thought the 6x6's were well down.
Also, the 4x4's were very reasonable. About market value.
I wonder when a few wrecks make it to Melbourne?

[Bushy049]

I thought the 6x6's were well down.
Also, the 4x4's were very reasonable. About market value.
I wonder when a few wrecks make it to Melbourne?

Yer I agree the 110's are going for more realistic prices now iv never felt they were worth more than about 8 grand for a good one

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[DBT]

I could be wrong, but wrt the 4x4 FFRs, QLD bidders seemed to be driving the prices this round. QLD lot prices peaked early, then quite a few late bidders from QLD drove the Minto bids up to match. :(

I wasn't watching any Melb lots, so not sure if their bids were leading or following by comparison.

[Bushy049]

Melbourne seemed to be a bit lower for most of the auction

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[DT-P38]

Hope I haven't already asked this (some times i think that dementia is coming early!)... Can the soft top troopy version of the 6X6's be reg'd in Vic?

Has anyone here done that as yet?

[Mick_Marsh]

Hope I haven't already asked this (some times i think that dementia is coming early!)... Can the soft top troopy version of the 6X6's be reg'd in Vic?

Has anyone here done that as yet?
Yes. It can.
I can assist. I registered a 6x6 recently..

[DT-P38]

Yes. It can.
I can assist. I registered a 6x6 recently..

TA, PM sent.

[87County]

With the relatively small quantity of 4X4s on offer this month in Brisbane, Adelaide and Minto, will price levels rise ?

any thoughts ?

[HowardSmall]

How do you know how many are on offer? The listing doesn't appear until the auction starts.

Howard

With the relatively small quantity of 4X4s on offer this month in Brisbane, Adelaide and Minto, will price levels rise ?

any thoughts ?

[Barefoot Dave]

He could tell you, but then he'd have have to kill you ;-)
There are a lot of people who know a lot of people so a few of us have some limited inside info.
I'll tease you by telling you that there are 2 dual cabs at this round. ;-)

[87County]

:) Enquiries to Graysonline indicate less than 25 going 4X4s altogether this round

[minibloodhound]

My new dream truck!
Land Rover 110 6X6 Crew Cab Hard Top with Soft Top Tray 10/1991 Auction (0013-5010301) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0013-5010301/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-crew-cab-hard-top-with-soft-top-tray-10-1991)

[rar110]

My new dream truck! Land Rover 110 6X6 Crew Cab Hard Top with Soft Top Tray 10/1991 Auction (0013-5010301) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0013-5010301/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-crew-cab-hard-top-with-soft-top-tray-10-1991)

Wow. The final price will be interesting.

[Barefoot Dave]

I predict Low-mid $30K

[Barefoot Dave]

I predict Low-mid $30K.
Anyone looking for a similar spec with a Ford, Dodge or Toyota badge will happily pay $100K. That is a lot of change to make it comfy!

[DBT]

Interesting. The pre-auction promo from AFM claimed this will be the biggest sale of 2014. Clearly this marketing statement is open to interpretation.


It's certainly huge if you are interested in the 6x6 crew cabs.


Mmm ... 6x6crewcab ... ^_^


Edit: or No 5 trailers. I lost count :(

[DBT]

What's the black thing next to the power box inside Lot 21?


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 2/1989 Auction (0021-5010301) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0021-5010301/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-ffr-soft-top-2-1989)

[tinnuts]

the crew cab has a 5 gun rack in place of the centre front seat,
lot 92 in the photo has written on windscreen "chassis cracked", on inspection windscreen was nice and clean where the message was.

[Bearman]

I can't believe how cheap those 2 crew cab 6bys went for at the Minto auction. I wish i had some spare dollars, i would have went for one of those.:(

[rar110]

I can't believe how cheap those 2 crew cab 6bys went for at the Minto auction. I wish i had some spare dollars, i would have went for one of those.:(

100% agree.

[isuzurover]

I can't believe how cheap those 2 crew cab 6bys went for at the Minto auction. I wish i had some spare dollars, i would have went for one of those.:(

Indeed. I have felt that a lot of the others went for far too much money - but not these.

Anyone know how many crew cabs are out there?

[Barefoot Dave]

Stunned x3!

26 supplied.

[DBT]

Yeah.

And then there was the $1,200 No. 5 trailer.

Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne Auction (0047-5010301) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0047-5010301/)

33 trailers with median winning bid $409.

Someone really wanted THAT one. :eek:

[100 td]

And then there was the $1,200 No. 5 trailer.
Someone really wanted THAT one. :eek:

That was average price for the early early auctions with one going over $2000 IIRC. The dual axles in the first auction were $3k+ and the next lot went to $7K.

[460cixy]

I can't get over the trailer prices I couldn't come at those prices ile just wait till they start turning up on gumtree once the novelty wears off them

[303gunner]

Yeah.

And then there was the $1,200 No. 5 trailer.

Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne Auction (0047-5010301) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0047-5010301/)

Someone really wanted THAT one. :eek:
Another example of the "Going, going, gone" feature pushing up bids. That trailer was the last one to finish, well after 5.00pm. As the others dropped off with no last minute bids and closed, this was the last in the auction left to place a bid on. If you had to have a trailer, this was your last opportunity.


I don't think it indicates there's anything special about this trailer in particular.

[LieutenantRover]

A No5 trailer on gumtree with a cage and boat rack is $4800

[DeeJay]

And top $$ for all the auctions went to an Adelaide GS..


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 9/1989 Auction (0009-8001249) | GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0009-8001249/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-4x4-cargo-soft-top-9-1989)


Must have been the matching seats.:angel:

[Bearman]

Yes, that is top dollar especially without a winch, but I would say it has been a rebuilt one by the look of the shiny chassis.

[cactus]

5 minutes before auction end thought ide place a 400 bid on what appeared to be the best looking' trailer at that price. not another bid so im heading to Sydney to pick it up Monday morning. I was surprised I wasn't outbid but I guess 30 0dd trailers hitting the market in one auction didn't find 30 odd buyers. I did note that the ones reaching the 900 mark looked pretty clean examples at least by the pics supplied. just hoping mine isn't too rusted inside as no pics under the tarp that is on it . still for that price ill live with the shortcomings if any.


cheers

[DeeJay]

Yes, that is top dollar especially without a winch, but I would say it has been a rebuilt one by the look of the shiny chassis.



A fair assumption - mine had a shiny chassis and I bought it sight unseen. The shiny was a recent coat of galvanising paint :( I'm still very happy with it though. Now I wonder when I see one like that in a picture if it is really a new chassis. And the Adelaide one was just a very nice low klm ( 118,000klm) example, not refurbed but look at the additional photo's ( click on attachments) & the purchaser is already up for a new canvas..

[DBT]

5 minutes before auction end thought ide place a 400 bid on what appeared to be the best looking' trailer at that price. not another bid so im heading to Sydney to pick it up Monday morning. I was surprised I wasn't outbid but I guess 30 0dd trailers hitting the market in one auction didn't find 30 odd buyers.

Might have been mine. ;)

I put $300 on one a couple hours before finish. Then I got distracted and forgot about the auction till after it closed. I was outbid by $100.

Still kicking myself. :censored:

[cactus]

Might have been mine. ;).
I put $300 on one a couple hours before finish. Then I got distracted and forgot about the auction till after it closed. I was outbid by $100.

Still kicking myself. :censored:
may have been :( although if you go to google images and do a search of no5 trailers, half the ones that were at auction come up with the sale price on the page if you open it.. I did see several sold for 409. my one is camouflage with a green tarp. :cool:

[jskerm]

What did the 6x6 crewcabs go for?

[cactus]

What did they go for?
several for 409 plus gst and commission.. about 480 all up with a tarp. others went for just over a grand. same specs but looked a liitle less used.


I think there were around 30 of them. not sure if they all sold but every one of them had 3 bids minimum effectively making them sold.

[cactus]

several for 409 plus gst and commission.. about 480 all up with a tarp. others went for just over a grand. same specs but looked a liitle less used.


I think there were around 30 of them. not sure if they all sold but every one of them had 3 bids minimum effectively making them sold.
that's trailers . not 6x6.

[DBT]

What did the 6x6 crewcabs go for?

Mid-20's i believe. Not at my PC to check the link. Significantly less than expected here.

Look further up this page for all the forhead smacking about those prices. :)

[Barefoot Dave]

What did the 6x6 crewcabs go for?
$21600 and $23001 +16%
About $10 000 less than i expected.

[incisor]

maybe some of the stupidity is starting to come off the market....

[Grants]

20 no.5 trailers, a few GS and a couple of 6x6 have been sitting in the "saleyards" for a couple of weeks. Full schedule of Gwagen deliveries are still to hit up here and may continue until Oct. You can expect a trickle of landys through until 2015 at least as there are quite few sitting round in various army/Raaf enclosures, and that's just the ones visible to the public ! .
Patience will be rewarded:)

[Benz]

just a quick question.

do the have auctions in the NT every round?

and if so/not when is the next round expected in Darwin?

I see the last one was in late june


Cheers
Ben

[LandroverScott]

just a quick question.

do the have auctions in the NT every round?

and if so/not when is the next round expected in Darwin?

No not every round, maybe 1 in 4 includes a Darwin auction.

When is the next auction, now that's the $64,000 question.

cheers

[cactus]

No not every round, maybe 1 in 4 includes a Darwin auction.

When is the next auction, now that's the $64,000 question.

cheers
just got the email from minto... auction starts 10/7/14 and goes till the 16th I think. 4x4 6x6 trilers etc. minto Darwin and perth this time round


cheers,

[Bushy049]

Wow there is a perth auction about bloody time


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[ggscadet]

Steady Bushy, it could just be a broken down ATV SASR wreck again. Fingers crossed.

[Cliffy]

I seen nothing green in Greys yard.
Prolly bikes and ATVs.
I'm off tomorrow so I'll go for a sticky.

[Benz]

yeah darwin only has trailers and perth, a broken atv...

Minto looks ok though. looks like they will have a red Mercedes Benz fire truck.

I'm calling past Darwin and my thought were that prices would be lower given it's isolation but a bit of a look at previous actions tells me they just seem to sell of some of the larger and crappier items there. things like trailers, trucks and wrecks.

I imagine every now and then some gems pop up though.

[isuzurover]

... perth, a broken atv...
...

That is crazy - why even bother holding an auction for one broken ATV...

[Bushy049]

Wa we miss out on everything all the time. Mabey their holding off on wa for that secret wear house of like new backup vehicals that all have under original 20 kms on the clock. ;)

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[Grants]

Strange...quite a number of Perenties have been lined up for weeks in the same yard as the twenty no. 5 trailers which are on offer this round. Maybe the final catalogue will incorporate more than what the Greys teaser has indicated so far. The yard is also the depot for a major car freight firm and I saw a few 6x6 on trucks the other day..methinks they might be sending them south where they get better prices because us topenders are only paying sensible prices..:)

[Muddy Boots]

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered; did anyone catch the final bids? Many thanks Ted

[303gunner]

Any pages you looked at will still be in your browser's history. The pages are still available on line, but not navigable from Gray's home page.

[DBT]

No Blueslips on (NSW) trailers this month.

Interesting.

[BSA73]

Is anyone looking to sell a roll cage out of one of these ex army defenders?

[gazk]

Is anyone looking to sell a roll cage out of one of these ex army defenders?

There is a set on ebay at present (in Darwin) Landrover Perentie in Darwin, NT | eBay

[BSA73]

Thanks Gaz!

[dingsy]

Will the standard perentie roll bars fit in a survey hardtop perentie or not a chance?

[DeeJay]

Will the standard perentie roll bars fit in a survey hardtop perentie or not a chance?

Seeing as they fit on the top of the side panels I'll run with not a chance.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/707.jpg

[Grants]

Strange...quite a number of Perenties have been lined up for weeks at trucking depot......methinks they might be sending them south where they get better prices because us topenders are only paying sensible prices..:)

Just been round to the yard to look at trailers ...Yep, just as I suspected... thirty something landys lined at the "departure lounge" ready to be trucked south to get the silly money that we don't pay up here.
Maybe that is what is happening to the WA ones as well.
Even a couple of highly prized twin cab 6x6 heading south for the winter , so be on the look out for them:)

a couple of rolling "wrecks" are parked off to the side , but word is that even they are destined south--- maybe we will get some rubbish when everything else is gone. Drats......!

[Barefoot Dave]

Well mate, what can I say. NT has had its chance to show AFM the colour of its money. The cars go where the money is! ;-)
AFM gets first dibs on parts vehicles as well. A complete operational vehicle is more valuable than 2 wrecks.
You will probably see more sales up your way when the supply chain fills out down south and there will be plenty to go around.

[HowardSmall]

I just hope there are still some worth buying when (if) they get down to pensioner prices 😡


Howard





You will probably see more sales up your way when the supply chain fills out down south and there will be plenty to go around.

[87County]

just "happened" to be going past Minto today - nothing special about the 4X4s - any with good features still had the odd problem (e.g. missing bailey channel in an otherwise good rebuild)....

But - a couple of the '96 build 6X6s looked seriously unissued (ie. "as new"). Could this be the case B Dave?

[Barefoot Dave]

Ships in the night, mate!
I did a day trip down there to check some vehicles for some people. Just missed you. Was that your crisp, white Defender?
I didn't check the GM120 for the 6x6s, but the one with only 1600ks sure looked and smelled new! It even seemed as if the doors had been left open as the seals were like new. Closed with a nice solid thud!
That IIMV is valued by Defence at $145,000. Not life cost, insured cost for transport.
To think it will sell for around 15% of that is staggering.

[Sprint]

not meaning to get anyone excited, but.....

about a week or so ago there were a number of G-wagens headed north, cant remember specifics, but IIRC there were dual cab 6x6's, maybe even a couple of rag tops...

but more importantly, tonight I spotted a southbound road train with what looked like a single cab 6x6 perentie...... and a dual cab 6x6 as well....

[Bushy049]

Anyone willing to comment on the quality of the 4x4s at this auction prices seemed a bit cheaper this time round

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[whatthe]

just "happened" to be going past Minto today - nothing special about the 4X4s - any with good features still had the odd problem (e.g. missing bailey channel in an otherwise good rebuild)....

But - a couple of the '96 build 6X6s looked seriously unissued (ie. "as new"). Could this be the case B Dave?

OK got to ask, what is a "bailey channel" and where is it. Is it like a bailey bridge lol.

I missed out on a land rover at the auctions today. So will have to wait for the next batch. At least I have a bit more time to learn......

[Bushy049]

OK got to ask, what is a "bailey channel" and where is it. Is it like a bailey bridge lol.

I missed out on a land rover at the auctions today. So will have to wait for the next batch. At least I have a bit more time to learn......

Cheers you answered and my question and asked my other good work

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[DBT]

[B]OK got to ask, what is a "bailey channel" and where is it. Is it like a bailey bridge lol.

Bailey channel is rubber lining in the sliding window frames in the door tops.

The auction vehicles won't have any, because it's not standard fitment. OE was felt lining which will have worn out, causing the side windows to rattle in their frames.

A fairly easy fix.

[JDNSW]

Bailey channel is rubber lining in the sliding window frames in the door tops.
......

Bailey channel is a patented form of channel for sliding windows, introduced in the 1930s, and comprising a metal "U" frame with a coating inside and out of cloth over rubber that is vulcanised to the metal, with a velvet pile on the cloth against the glass.

The term is applied these days indiscriminately to almost any equivalent channel, including rubber strips designed for fixed glass.

I am pretty certain that the original on these military 110s used a felt lined channel rather than the original strict bailey type. For door top windows a channel with only rubber or plastic rather than metal and fibre are often preferred because in this use it is more durable.

John

[Faceplant]

Do we have any numbers on Hard Top Surveys that have been auctioned off so far? I was under the impression there were plenty of these about however browsing around it appears there are less of them in existence than the 4 door hardtop variants. Operationally would there be any reason for them to come up for auction earlier or later I guess I'm asking what exactly does a Survey get used for?

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day faceplant.
Concensus is that there is only 1 Survey left and that is one of the 6 initial production vehicles, so it will probably go for a premium. Unless it has been destroyed, of course.

Many were released early on as they are no longer a specialist vehicle and were not really being used.
Their are a few options for hardtop conversions here. take a look around.
Maybe even give KLR automotive a call, it could be worth your while.

COnverting a ragtop FFR is cheaper. MArket price for a Survey is $15- 20 000.
An FFR at auction will set you back about $10 000 (incl fees)
You can get a pretty good fitout for the difference!

[jerryd]

Do you know anything about this one Dave ??

Land Rover Defender 110 Only 75 000km NO Reserve | eBay

seems to be at a very tempting price at the moment :whistling:

[Bushy049]

Hmmmm not too sure about the black tho. But your right about the price

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[juddy]

Could have painted the inside of the doors.

[Barefoot Dave]

Do you know anything about this one Dave ??
Not all Perenties for sale in Qld are mine!! ; )
No, don't know this one. If it goes for less than $12K then it is a fair buy (dependant on paint quality).

[Faceplant]

AFM have a display at the 4x4 show in Melbourne this weekend including their dark grey special model. They had a representative from KLR there also who was a fountain of knowledge.

[jerryd]

Do you know anything about this one Dave ??
Not all Perenties for sale in Qld are mine!! ; )
No, don't know this one. If it goes for less than $12K then it is a fair buy (dependant on paint quality).

It fetched $8,800.00

I've had a change of plan now :)

[Benz]

G'Day faceplant.
Concensus is that there is only 1 Survey left and that is one of the 6 initial production vehicles, so it will probably go for a premium. Unless it has been destroyed, of course.

Many were released early on as they are no longer a specialist vehicle and were not really being used.
Their are a few options for hardtop conversions here. take a look around.
Maybe even give KLR automotive a call, it could be worth your while.

COnverting a ragtop FFR is cheaper. MArket price for a Survey is $15- 20 000.
An FFR at auction will set you back about $10 000 (incl fees)
You can get a pretty good fitout for the difference!

Oh are the 3 door hard tops that rare?
I hoped to buy one of those.

Like you say though, it's not that hard to put a hard top on them.
Do rear doors become an issue at all?

[Barefoot Dave]

Do rear doors become an issue at all?

In what way?

[weeds]

Umm, a rear door (hard top conversion) would be way more difficult on and FFR compared to a GS

[Outlaw]

Not really. If the ffr's are like the series versions than that half tailgate thing is still easy to remove by popping out the rivets. Them back to a normal opening

[Faceplant]

Umm, a rear door (hard top conversion) would be way more difficult on and FFR compared to a GS

Just to illustrate here is the rear of a Cargo

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1490.jpg


And now a FFR:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1491.jpg


A gent auctioning the ROPS from his Perentie offered to send me photos of his Hardtop conversion but never did. Based in Darwin, anyone here?

[Benz]

ah so the ffs's just have a piece put in that can be taken out?

and on the cargos the opening is just like the bottom of any regular wagon?
Just pull out the tailgate and bolt on a door once you have put on a roof ect.?

[DBT]

There's no piece to put in the gap on the FFRs. The rolled up canvas in the photo has an extra panel that covers the cut-out.

You would need to de-rivet and remove the rear "transom" panel in order to fit a door or tail gate to an FFR.

RFSVs / SRVs have the same back panel setup as FFRs.

[HowardSmall]

Nothing to it, though. I just did the opposite on my S2A to convert it from GS to FFT.


Howard

[110Lizard]

I have taken the roof off a senior commander and done a mock up on a FFR... The ROP bar mounts would have to be cut out and patched up and a few other things. The rear door is another job that requires a bit of modification. All in all it would be easier and a better quality finish to just remove rear tub, side panels and roof from series 3 and replace tub on FFR...

[110Lizard]

Sorry just realised you guys are talking about just putting the tailgate in not the full hardtop conversion...

[Benz]

I was talking about a full hard top conversion.

cheers for the info.

[Welby]

i see a new batch are ready for sale next week.
anyone going for a look ?
keen on rfsv reports.
:eek:

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day mate.
PM me, I might be able to help.

[87County]

i see a new batch are ready for sale next week.
anyone going for a look ?
keen on rfsv reports.
:eek:

4 or 5 in Vic :)

[Judo]

4 or 5 in Vic :)
More info? Link?

[87County]

More info? Link?

here you go Judo :)

Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards (http://remlr.com/forum/index.php'topic=817.msg24650#msg24650)

[87County]

........and another 5 RFSVs at Minto :)

[Barefoot Dave]

........and another 5 RFSVs at Minto :)
I think I just heard a groan come from Juddy!
"Extra, extra read all about it: RFSV prices plummet due to global glut!"

It will be interesting to see what they fetch.

[whatthe]

If anyone does go down to see the latest lots released. Or happens to know.

I'd be interested in knowing any opinions on which Landrovers are the best of the bunch. Both in the surveillance and the 110 cargo soft tops.

You will probably see me down there. I will be the one looking bemused crawling underneath.

[THE BOOGER]

This was spotted on REMLR anybody seen 1 like it before?

compliance as a RFSU for 3 seats and 3600 kg:)

[Bushy049]

Was out of phone range for the end of the auction, could anyone post up the final prices??

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[BadCo.]

In this post on remlr.com there is a screen shot of the 6x6's sale prices.

Defence Vehicle Disposals - 2013 onwards (http://remlr.com/forum/index.php'topic=817.msg25062#msg25062)

[dfendr]

These are the ones I was watching



Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 7/1989


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 7/1989

Lot No: 0023-5011375
AU$9,609

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 8/1990


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 8/1990

Lot No: 0026-5011375
AU$9,709

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 5/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 5/1988

Lot No: 0030-5011375
AU$9,609

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 8/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 8/1988

Lot No: 0031-5011375
AU$7,809

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 9/1991


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 9/1991

Lot No: 0032-5011375
AU$8,709

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 12/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 12/1988

Lot No: 0034-5011375
AU$11,909

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 3/1991


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 3/1991

Lot No: 0035-5011375
AU$7,909

Sold


Sold
Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne


Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne

Lot No: 0043-5011375
AU$409

Sold


Sold
Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne


Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne

Lot No: 0044-5011375
AU$309

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 11/1996


Land Rover 110 6X6 Infantry Carrier Hard Top 11/1996

Lot No: 0002-3007373
AU$36,909

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 6x6 Land Rover Ambulance Hard Top


Land Rover 110 6x6 Land Rover Ambulance Hard Top

Lot No: 0004-3007373
AU$22,509

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 6X6 Air Defence Hard Top 04/1990


Land Rover 110 6X6 Air Defence Hard Top 04/1990

Lot No: 0005-3007373
AU$21,209

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 07/1991


Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 07/1991

Lot No: 0006-3007373
AU$26,609

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 07/1991


Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 07/1991

Lot No: 0007-3007373
AU$15,109

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 11/1990


Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 11/1990

Lot No: 0008-3007373
AU$19,309

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 07/1991


Land Rover 110 4X4 Regional Force Surveillance Soft Top (RFSV) 07/1991

Lot No: 0009-3007373
AU$19,209

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 03/1991


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 03/1991

Lot No: 0010-3007373
AU$11,009

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 03/1989


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 03/1989

Lot No: 0012-3007373
AU$8,809

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 02/1989


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 02/1989

Lot No: 0013-3007373
AU$10,009

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 06/1989


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 06/1989

Lot No: 0014-3007373
AU$10,109

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 12/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 12/1988

Lot No: 0015-3007373
AU$9,609

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 05/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 05/1988

Lot No: 0016-3007373
AU$9,009

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 08/1987


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 08/1987

Lot No: 0018-3007373
AU$9,309

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 09/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 09/1988

Lot No: 0019-3007373
AU$10,009

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 11/1989


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 11/1989

Lot No: 0020-3007373
AU$11,009

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 10/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 10/1988

Lot No: 0021-3007373
AU$10,409

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 07/1989


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 07/1989

Lot No: 0022-3007373
AU$11,909

Sold


Sold
Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne 1964


Single axle Cargo trailer Australian No.5 half tonne 1964

Lot No: 0023-3007373
AU$1,409

Sold


Sold
Single axle Cargo Trailer, Australian No.5 Half Tonne


Single axle Cargo Trailer, Australian No.5 Half Tonne

Lot No: 0012-8001390
AU$859

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 08/1988


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 08/1988

Lot No: 0001-8001390
AU$8,809

Sold


Sold
Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 09/1989


Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 09/1989

Lot No: 0005-8001390
AU$9,109

[4x4 MORE]

Why the differences in off road sats?:confused:..Ground clearance ect

[Judo]

Am I missing something? What's with the $19k ones??

Edit: All the RFSV's actually. Did they sell for those prices other auctions?

[spudboy]

Does anyone know what the Melbourne Unimog went for? Looked to be in really good nick.

Ta
David

[spudboy]

Am I missing something? What's with the $19k ones??

RFSV's

[Mick_Marsh]

Am I missing something? What's with the $19k ones??

Edit: All the RFSV's actually. Did they sell for those prices other auctions?


Yep. Except for Juddy's. He scored a bargain.

[Mick_Marsh]

Does anyone know what the Melbourne Unimog went for? Looked to be in really good nick.

Ta
David
$47,109

http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-3007373/transport-trucks-and-trailers/land-rover-110-6x6-infantry-carrier-hard-top-11-1996

It did look good. I was tempted.

[spudboy]

Whoaa! So about $55K with Buyers Premium and GST. Reckon that's the highest priced one I've ever seen go through! MUST have been in really good condition, for sure.

Thanks Mick

[CragDuc]

Any idea what the two in Sydney went for? One was operational, the other a non-op.

[Mick_Marsh]

Whoaa! So about $55K with Buyers Premium and GST. Reckon that's the highest priced one I've ever seen go through! MUST have been in really good condition, for sure.

Thanks Mick
What do I say? Melbourne get the highest prices.
Must be more loonies with cash down here.

[Sprint]

What do I say? Melbourne get the highest prices.
Must be more loonies with cash down here.

Edited for accuracy.....

[Mick_Marsh]

Edited for accuracy.....
Ah, Mr Sprint.
I was referring to a subset of loonies, the ones with cash. The loonies without cash do not buy Perenties. They move to Queensland.

[juddy]

Yes it still makes me wonder :D

[4x4 MORE]

Hey Guys this morning I test drove this to see what they were like:D

Discounted Used 1989 Land Rover 110 (4WD) Green 4 Speed Manual Wagon - Cousins Motor Company, Oxley (http://www.cousins.com.au/used_4x4_dealer/view/cousins_used_4x4_dealer/1989_Land_Rover_110_4WD_Green_4_Speed_Manual_Wagon/6338642/)

My god it's like a truck compared to my current 4wd[Suzuki Sierra]

Battery was flat, then transfer would not engage high range[ was in neutral;)]

The driving position was great, very commanding, you sit nice and high, seats were ok..not uncomfortable at all, certainly better than my Dad's old series 3 109 seats:p

Shifting gears is not exactly easy[ like my sierra or a Toyota Corolla!:p]
The gears are very notchy and heavy[ I Missed gears a few times:rolleyes:]
Not to mention the clucth is dam heavy!:o brakes were pretty average too!

The steering was a bit heavy at parking speeds, but no where near as heavy as I expected it to be..and it was fine once moving:)

The ride was not bad at all thanks to coils..quite good..but the interior was LOUD as! and the whole car feels extremely solid felt like a tank:p, quite a few vibrations too.

The Isuzu motor..felt very slow[ my sierra 1.3 felt quick in comparison:lol2:]
But once moving it gets along fine..as long as your not in a hurry!
Reving the motor hard did't seem to make progress any quicker..
So long as each gear was in the torque band it was good:)

Would I buy one? HELL YES!:cool:

[Bushy049]

Hey 4x4 more iv been watching this one for sale for months, it's been getting steadily cheaper and cheaper. Think it was over 20 grand at first. it came from one of the first couple of auctions when people were paying ridiculous money for them. You may even beat them down in price or at least get them to replace all the batteries in it.

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[4x4 MORE]

Ben said they brought 15 of them from Gray's online,,

and that one cost them 19 grand:eek:

[Mick_Marsh]

Ben said they brought 15 of them from Gray's online,,

and that one cost them 19 grand:eek:
They bid against their market. little bit of research will show what they paid for it.
They've still got the Air Defence I was bidding on against them.

[PeteFox]

They've still got the Air Defence I was bidding on against them.

I would be interested to know what they paid for that one.
I bought an identical air defence at the July 14 auctions for $18.5k but with only 4700km showing since a Tenix rebuild. Seems like an expensive deal to me even with the price reduction.
Pete

[Mick_Marsh]

I would be interested to know what they paid for that one.
I bought an identical air defence at the July 14 auctions for $18.5k but with only 4700km showing since a Tenix rebuild. Seems like an expensive deal to me even with the price reduction.
Pete
You'd have to trawl through the old auctions. It had a distinctive tear in it.

[Bushy049]

They bid against their market. little bit of research will show what they paid for it.
They've still got the Air Defence I was bidding on against them.

Yep think they got caught up in a bit of misinformed hype, bet it has cost them a few $$$ :rolleyes:

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[Sprint]

Ah, Mr Sprint.
I was referring to a subset of loonies, the ones with cash. The loonies without cash do not buy Perenties. They move to Queensland.

Temporarily.

Every winter.

After buying a 3 litre Patrol or petrol Landcruiser.

And towing a $100k+ Taj Mahal on wheels.

At 70km/h.

EVERYWHERE.

[4x4 MORE]

Yep think they got caught up in a bit of misinformed hype, bet it has cost them a few $$$ :rolleyes:

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:confused::confused:

[Sprint]

I think bushy was referring to cousins buying up a lot of the first auctions offerings hoping to turn a quick buck thinking they were onto a hot thing....

funnily enough, that seems to have been the modus operandi for both cousins and east coast commercials, in that they tend to out-bid everyone at any cost at the auctions, then jack up the prices knowing they have the monopoly on a certain type of equipment...

more than a little satisfying to some that those tactics have finally bitten them on the backside, i'm sure....

[BadCo.]

Didn't anyone tell them about the other 3800+ trucks? Oh well.

[4x4 MORE]

:D:D:D

[LandroverScott]

Hey 4x4 more iv been watching this one for sale for months, it's been getting steadily cheaper and cheaper. Think it was over 20 grand at first. it came from one of the first couple of auctions when people were paying ridiculous money for them. You may even beat them down in price or at least get them to replace all the batteries in it.

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Yes I think it was from April 2013 check REMLR ARN database and it will tell you. It started at $22k

[87County]

standard monthly offering - inspections Sat 11Oct14 & Mon

Ex-Military Unimogs,Trucks,Land Rovers,ATV's &Trailers (http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5011677/motor-vehicles-motor-cycles/unreserved-ex-military-unimogs-trucks-land-rovers-atv-s-trailers'spr=true)

other states as well

[Bushy049]

And once again WA misses out 😖

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[Sprint]

And once again WA misses out 😖

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You'll just have to Wait Awhile....

[Bushy049]

Well looks like when I get one of these I'm going to have a nice long drive home to get acquainted. But that won't be until mid next year. The minister of finance thinks buying a house has a priority at the moment ;)

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[4x4 MORE]

There are some Ex army 110 Perentie's at 130 Macarthur Avenue, Hamilton, QLD, 4007
Start time
09/10/2014 4.00 PM AEDT
End time
15/10/2014 5.00 PM AEDT
Deliver to
Pickup Only QLD

I had a look at them yesterday. some were missing the crucial log books, one Soft Top Cargo 4x4 needed major repairs to diffs and drive shafts ect..

Had a "do not start" sign in the look book

nearly all of them have very average paint..all are dull and nothing to write home about..

How ever all of the interiors looked great and clean and shiny,

How do people make the softop look new again?:confused: most look very faded and light in colour..

[87County]

.......

How ever all of the interiors looked great and clean and shiny,

How do people make the softop look new again?:confused: most look very faded and light in colour..


Bulk quantities of Armorall have been sprayed on the interiors by AFM - makes the seats very slippery :)

The only real way of smartening up a worn out soft top is to buy a new one :)

But there is the odd good replacement already fitted to some vehicles.

[Grants]

Slap it on...leave f or an hour or so... Wipe off. Faded appearance will be gone

[Grants]

Oppps! I was referring to the ,paintwork , not the canvas

[Lotz-A-Landies]

And once again WA misses out ��

Sent from my HTC_PN071 using AULRO mobile appRumour has it that the cost of shipping vehicles to Minto and out to other sites is eating into AFM's profits so it is likely that future sales will be at the AFM site closest to the current storage.

From a different source, there is a suggestion that the cost of moving the non-operational vehicles from Bandiana etc is greater than the units are making at auction, so they may start scrapping them in situ.

I don't know if AFM have a site in or near Bandiana, so far they have all been coming to Minto.

I have picked up and stored a number of trailers from Minto for a WA bidder. I have no problem doing it for other WA members, but I won't do the mechanical inspection, you'd have to contract someone like Barefoot Dave to do that.

[BadCo.]

How is it costing so much? Surely your ADF has loads of grunts that could be doing something...

[juddy]

Rumour has it that the cost of shipping vehicles to Minto and out to other sites is eating into AFM's profits so it is likely that future sales will be at the AFM site closest to the current storage.

From a different source, there is a suggestion that the cost of moving the non-operational vehicles from Bandiana etc is greater than the units are making at auction, so they may start scrapping them in situ.

I don't know if AFM have a site in or near Bandiana, so far they have all been coming to Minto.

I have picked up and stored a number of trailers from Minto for a WA bidder. I have no problem doing it for other WA members, but I won't do the mechanical inspection, you'd have to contract someone like Barefoot Dave to do that.

Makes sense sending them down to NSW, to send them back to QLD is a bit silly.

[isuzurover]

...

How do people make the softop look new again?:confused: most look very faded and light in colour..

If it is still structurally ok, then this stuff would do it, but it doesn't come in the right colours:
VHT Vinyl Dye™ (http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/vinyldye/)

[Summiitt]

Is the supply of unimogs drying up? I've been trying to buy one for the last three auctions but it seems there are limited trucks being put up each month..?

[Mick_Marsh]

Is the supply of unimogs drying up? I've been trying to buy one for the last three auctions but it seems there are limited trucks being put up each month..?
Have they got the replacements for the Mogs yet?
We've heard lots about the G Wagons. What is replacing the Mogs and the Macks?

[Summiitt]

In the last 12 months, I've seen quite a few army Scania 4x4 trucks in the same configuration as the mogs, not sure if these are the replacements?

[Mick_Marsh]

In the last 12 months, I've seen quite a few army Scania 4x4 trucks in the same configuration as the mogs, not sure if these are the replacements?
Are they delivering them to the ADF?
I think BAE Systems are supplying the Scanias as replacements for the Macks.

[carlschmid2002]

How is it costing so much? Surely your ADF has loads of grunts that could be doing something...

Maybe those grunts might be busy keeping the country safe. Just a thought.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

How is it costing so much? Surely your ADF has loads of grunts that could be doing something...Most transport for DMO and DDA is via civilian contractors and non operational vehicles need to be lifted on rather than driven on. Recently moving a number of armoured vehicles from one side of Sydney to the other and return 3 days later cost $900 per vehicle and they were all driving. I can't imagine the cost of moving a non-goer vehicle from Wodonga to Sydney could come in under a thousand dollars and if they only make $1,500 on the sale its not worth the effort. Remember the parent company of AFM is Sell and Parker a metal recycling company, they could move 4 or 5 perenties in the same space as a non op one if they pancaked them in Bandiana.

[Mick_Marsh]

Most transport for DMO and DDA is via civilian contractors and non operational vehicles need to be lifted on rather than driven on. Recently moving a number of armoured vehicles from one side of Sydney to the other and return 3 days later cost $900 per vehicle and they were all driving. I can't imagine the cost of moving a non-goer vehicle from Wodonga to Sydney could come in under a thousand dollars and if they only make $1,500 on the sale its not worth the effort. Remember the parent company of AFM is Sell and Parker a metal recycling company, they could move 4 or 5 perenties in the same space as a non op one if they pancaked them in Bandiana.
They wouldn't have to move them if they auctioned them off in Bandiana.

I wonder why they all go to Minto first.

[Judo]

They wouldn't have to move them if they auctioned them off in Bandiana.

I wonder why they all go to Minto first.
Slow down Mick, you're making way too much sense now. We all know the world doesn't exists outside of capital cities!

[Lotz-A-Landies]

They wouldn't have to move them if they auctioned them off in Bandiana.

I wonder why they all go to Minto first.AFM doesn't have an office in Bandiana and their head office is actually in Sydney.

The vehicles in storage are still on Defence property in Bandiana (or elsewhere) and AFM only find out what they will have to auction when they arrive at Minto from DDA. I'm guessing AFM wears the cost of the transport.

It may be that AFM has negotiated with DDA that the vehicles are only moved to the closest AFM branch office for auction. I guess we'll see when/if it happens.

We know what rumours are like.

[Mick_Marsh]

Slow down Mick, you're making way too much sense now. We all know the world doesn't exists outside of capital cities!
In that case, I don't exist.
I don't think I've visited a capital city for over a year.

[Sprint]

In that case, I don't exist.
I don't think I've visited a capital city for over a year.

only a year? I havent been to a capital city since 1998.....

[slug_burner]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/796.jpg

This is one of the replacements for the unimogs, don't expect to see too many around until 16/17

More details here

[Summiitt]

Good choice in the MAN trucks, plenty of 8x8 drill rigs running out bush already, they have a great reputation as far as strength and durability go.

[spudboy]

That's good to hear, as I'm building a 4x4 MAN camper :D

[isuzurover]

That's good to hear, as I'm building a 4x4 MAN camper :D

You should have gone the 8x8, then you won't get bogged like that swiss couple did...

[Landy Smurf]

I wonder how much they will cost per unit once decked out.

[spudboy]

You should have gone the 8x8, then you won't get bogged like that swiss couple did...

Or, you could end up bogged twice as bad....

[RoboDouche]

Hey people,

I was looking into buying an Army Defender at greys online or something like that. Just wondering if anyones done this and if there's anything I should be aware of? Like getting rego or needing to get a blue plate etc?

Just sold my Volkswagen Thing and I've always wanted an ex-Army Defender!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated;)

[Mick_Marsh]

Have a browse through here:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/coil-sprung-military-land-rovers/

and buy one of these:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/177598-perentie-land-rover-buyers-guide.html

[87County]

Most of the mil LRs presently being sold aren't actually Defenders but they look similar.

Read the coil sprung military vehicle section in the pinnacles for lots of detailed info.

[101RRS]

Hey people,

I was looking into buying an Army Defender at greys online or something like that.

I thought that all the Defenders had been sold off early in the auction process and it was only the Perenties (110 variants and 6x6) that were still being sold.

Garry

[Mick_Marsh]

I thought that all the Defenders had been sold off early in the auction process and it was only the Perenties (110 variants and 6x6) that were still being sold.

Garry
Yep. You're right. They were sold through Manheim.
Judging from where the OP was posted, I assumed the author didn't know the difference between a 110 and Defender.

There is or was an ex-mil Defender for sale in the western burbs of Melbourne. Brooklyn I think. Car yard on Geelong Road.

[RoboDouche]

So the Parenties aren't Land Rovers? I had no idea! I better do some serious research:confused:

[Outlaw]

There is a defender 130 up rocky way for sale still on gumtree.

[Mick_Marsh]

So the Parenties aren't Land Rovers? I had no idea! I better do some serious research:confused:
The Perenties are Landrovers. 110's are Landrovers. Defenders are Landrovers.
A 110 is not a Defender. A Perentie is not a Defender. A defender is nit a Perentie or 110.
Yes, do more research.

[isuzurover]

So the Parenties aren't Land Rovers? I had no idea! I better do some serious research:confused:

They ARE land rovers, but they are not defenders. The perenties are based on the civilian one-ten, which was made from 1984-1991 in Australia and predated the defender which was introduced in 1992 in Australia. Some perenties were built in the mid 90's, but are still not defenders.

[JDNSW]

The names changed over time.

Landrover started as a model name for the independent motor manufacturer, Rover.

Initially, in 1948, there was only one model, simply called a Landrover. With the introduction of different wheelbases, these became referred to as Landrover 80", 86", 107" etc based on the wheelbase in inches.

With a major restyle and update in 1958, the new model was called the Series 2 (usually Series II) Landrover, with all preceding models retrospectively called Series 1.

With the introduction of a larger diesel engine in 1961, this became the Series 2a, and with the introduction of a padded dash and other fairly substantial changes in 1971 it became the Series 3. (in 1967 Rover merged with Leyland)

However, when the Landrover was fitted with coil springs in 1983, the nomenclature was changed to "Landrover 110" (110" wheelbase, later Landrover 90 with 93" wheelbase) rather than the more obvious Series 4.

The Perentie project starting in the late seventies was an Australian Army project that modified the Landrover 110 design to more closely meet the military requirements, and the vehicles resulting from this project are loosely referred to as Perenties, which is neither an official Landrover nor army name for them.

Meanwhile, with the name of the Rover company turned into a dirty word by their owners, Leyland, by making some real dogs, and with a new four wheel drive being prepared for market aimed at the original Rover middle class market, the decision was made to change the name "Landrover" from a model name to a marque name, so that the new model became the Landrover Discovery rather than the Rover Discovery, and the Leyland Rangerover was changed to a Landrover Rangerover. This of course meant that the existing Landrover, which could hardly be called a "Landrover Landrover", needed a new name. The name 'Defender" was chosen.

The break was perhaps more pronounced in Australia, as the introduction of the new models coincided with the cessation of Australian production, including the military models (although production was restarted in the mid nineties for the army), and none of the new Defenders were sold for two years. However, there were relatively few differences between the first Defenders and the last Landrover 110s sold here except for engine and gearbox.

John

[LR V8]

Great description John, thanks for taking the time to do that :)

Just to add - Perentie was the name given to the Army project to acquire the vehicles. The name stuck from there... even to those bought under subsequent projects such as Bushranger (6x6 Infantry Mobility Vehicles).

* I see John added to his post after my comments above. Nice one.



Cheers,

Pete

[RoboDouche]

Yeah great thanks for that!

Really good discription:)

[RoboDouche]

I'll have to take a "Perentie" for a spin never driven on.

So far I've owned a 300TDi 110. A TD5 110 Defender and a 2009 Defender 110.

Looking forward to seeing the difference!!

[Outlaw]

Are a few perenties for sale up sunny coast way dependent on where you are you could take for a spin prior to auctions. There's a nice hardtop at sunshine beach i see frequently (not for sale). I may be up there on the weekend too if you pm me a number and location can let you know if around you at all.

[mick88]

The Perenties are Landrovers. 110's are Landrovers. Defenders are Landrovers.
A 110 is not a Defender. A Perentie is not a Defender. A defender is nit a Perentie or 110.
Yes, do more research.

Hey Mick,
My Perentie has "110" on the front of it!
So perhaps the "Perenties" are better described as a modified version of the "110"?

Cheers, Mick.

[4x4 MORE]

Good write up there JDNSW:)

[LandroverScott]

So the Parenties aren't Land Rovers? I had no idea! I better do some serious research:confused:

The answer is yes and no.

Modified chassis
Isuzu motor
Range rover gear box
Land rover panels and everything else

But they pre date the defenders

They are based on the 110

Do your home work, understand what you are buying, the buyers guide is good, you were directed to this a couple of posts ago

Regards and good hunting

[303gunner]

The names changed over time.

The Perentie project starting in the late seventies was an Australian Army project that modified the Landrover 110 design to more closely meet the military requirements, and the vehicles resulting from this project are loosely referred to as Perenties, which is neither an official Landrover nor army name for them.

John
Except for those 4x4s and 6x6s that were officially named as "Perentie" as the vehicle type! (With Land Rover, there is ALWAYS going to be some exception to the rules).


On the compliance plate, the vehicle "Model" is simply named as "Land Rover Military 4x4" or "Land Rover Military 6x6".

[mick88]

Both of those compliance plates make mention of it as a 110!



Except for those 4x4s and 6x6s that were officially named as "Perentie" as the vehicle type! (With Land Rover, there is ALWAYS going to be some exception to the rules).


On the compliance plate, the vehicle "Model" is simply named as "Land Rover Military 4x4" or "Land Rover Military 6x6".

[Grants]

Quite a collection gathering at "departure lounge " , hopefully not all to head south for auction, a couple of dozen RFSVs plus GS, No. 5 trailers, Mogs etc.
Will be interesting to see what happens

[LR V8]

Except for those 4x4s and 6x6s that were officially named as "Perentie" as the vehicle type! (With Land Rover, there is ALWAYS going to be some exception to the rules).


On the compliance plate, the vehicle "Model" is simply named as "Land Rover Military 4x4" or "Land Rover Military 6x6".


I don't think they are compliance plates are they ? I thought they were nomenclature plates (http://www.answers.com/topic/nomenclature-plate)....


Although the nomenclature plate is fitted by manufacturer, it is done (I think) so as part of the Defence codification process for new equipment. The compliance plate (the normal bare metal one that mentions ADRs etc) is what manufacture uses to state it's name for the model. It is located in the engine bay on the firewall.

Cheers,

Pete

[Barefoot Dave]

You are both right. Mr 303 didn't mis-identify the Nom plates. they were a different subject in his response. Compliance plate states: Land Rover, Military etc
Nom plate states: Truck Utility/ FFR/ Surveillance Light/weight etc and a handful have 'Perentie' on there as shown.

[LR V8]

Just talking about the pictures.... They aren't compliance plates.

[303gunner]

Just talking about the pictures.... They aren't compliance plates.

On the compliance plate, the vehicle "Model" is simply named as "Land Rover Military 4x4" or "Land Rover Military 6x6".
And here's some pics of Compliance Plates for you. From early to late, the style and content of the plates varied over time, but the Model was always "Land Rover Military 4x4" or "Land Rover Military 6x6", never described as a OneTen, Defender or Perentie.

[303gunner]

Both of those compliance plates make mention of it as a 110!
And the 6x6 is also described as a 110, so they can't be describing the measurement of the wheelbase. They are talking about the model marketed before the Defender was introduced.

[Mick_Marsh]

And the 6x6 is also described as a 110, so they can't be describing the measurement of the wheelbase. They are talking about the model marketed before the Defender was introduced.
110" to the first axle I thought.

[JDNSW]

110" to the first axle I thought.

Yes, but also it is a variant of the 110. The 120 was also labelled 110, if my memory is right.

John