Thread: Toyota to replace the V8

Originally Posted by Homestar

With Hyundai offering 5 year warranties (soon to be 7) and Kias offering 7 years (soon to be 10) it makes them incredible value for money and I’m sure the OEMs wouldn’t offer such warranties if they were unreliable **** boxes. Having both Hyundai’s and Kias in the family fleet I can tell you they just seem to go. Mates Kia Carnival had its first breakage a few weeks back - it’s 8 years old with 200,000 Km on it and is shown no love other than servicing. The window winder in the back broke on one side - he was gutted.

Know what all these vehicles get in Thailand?
12 months warranty. That’s all.

In Australia the length of warranty offered doesn’t matter - AC Law protects us beyond that period. Hence the warranties just align to what our consumer protection provides anyway.

This is just marketing to sell them.

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

In Australia the length of warranty offered doesn’t matter - AC Law protects us beyond that period.

Not fore the average person - if you cannot get the ACCC to take on your case (and it generally does not happen) it will be expensive to enforce your rights.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Not fore the average person - if you cannot get the ACCC to take on your case (and it generally does not happen) it will be expensive to enforce your rights.

So True. The ACCC is completely useless. All they do is refer you to VCAT , QCAT or whatever jurisdiction your in & they too are just as useless . Been tried by Iveco 4x4 Owners & Lawyers on owners behalf with no result. They are not fit for purpose.

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

Know what all these vehicles get in Thailand?
12 months warranty. That’s all.

In Australia the length of warranty offered doesn’t matter - AC Law protects us beyond that period. Hence the warranties just align to what our consumer protection provides anyway.

This is just marketing to sell them.

Have you been watching Cadogen?

The Consumer Laws are,.in practice, far from a contractual warranty especially at higher k's and years. You can see vehicle manufacturers offering higher warranties as their vehicles improve. Unfortunately JRA haven't to date and the reason is clear. Their vehicles have too many problems for them to cop the costs. I'm a LR tragic of many decades but let's still see things without the rose tint.

The new Defender and other range built in Slovakia is a litmus test for me. If they can't offer at.least 150,000k standard with 5 years and a cheapish 200,000k and 7 year option then that says a lot. My D2 v8 was faultless to 200,000k until it did an alternator. Surely if they can source the right gearbox and can bolt together the Ingeniums with decent cranshafts and bearings this new crop should not cause them warranty heartache when offering a fair dinkum warranty. To offer 3 years 100,000k is just taking the Mick when you are talking 90k plus vehicles and most Discos even hitting the road over 6 figures.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Homestar

No major changes to the Hilux? You’re joking right? It’s like saying there were no major changes from the D4 to the D5. The current model and previous model are chalk and cheese to each other, I’ve had both as company cars so can tell you how different they are. From engine, gearbox and most of the chassis being total new, so is the interior and most importantly the seats. Tow capacity also updated. New model isn’t proving to be half as robust as the previous model though despite it being much more comfortable. They are 2 very different vehicles both in spec and how they drive. Saying they are basically the same for the last 3 1/2 years would be correct.

I stand corrected. The last of the older style Hilux's was 2015 I think.
I have owned a few different models of Hilux over the years and I have had a great run out of all of them.

Originally Posted by Homestar

With Hyundai offering 5 year warranties (soon to be 7) and Kias offering 7 years (soon to be 10) it makes them incredible value for money and I’m sure the OEMs wouldn’t offer such warranties if they were unreliable **** boxes. Having both Hyundai’s and Kias in the family fleet I can tell you they just seem to go. Mates Kia Carnival had its first breakage a few weeks back - it’s 8 years old with 200,000 Km on it and is shown no love other than servicing. The window winder in the back broke on one side - he was gutted. 😆

Having worked in the small engine industry, one company I worked for in the 80's was the first to introduce 12 months warranty - up from the 3 months industry standard.
The number of "warranty" claims we knocked back as " fair wear and tear", was 90% of the claims.
Something to bear in mind when your Kia starter motor won't work anymore at 160,000 klm.
Taken from the Kia website.

KIA warrants that your new KIA Vehicle is free from defects in material or workmanship, subject to the following terms and conditions. A KIA Dealer will make necessary repairs, using genuine KIA parts, to correct any defects in material or workmanship covered by this warranty without charge to you. Refer to the following pages for specific warranty coverage guidelines and terms and conditions.
Change of Owner
During the warranty period, the KIA New Vehicle Warranty is transferable to subsequent owners of a KIA vehicle.

David

As long as they don't say engines, gearboxes and turbo chargers are wear and tear I think I would survive . Starter motors... well it would be covered by any warranty and at least you have a written contractual warranty that implies the major components will last the life of the warranty period or be replaced/repaired. With Land Rover the issues that would be covered by a similar warranty to Hyundai, Mist Triton etc are the very things, the major things that can write off a 5-7 year old vehicle that LR must provide satisfaction against.

Cheerd

Originally Posted by ozscott

As long as they don't say engines, gearboxes and turbo chargers are wear and tear I think I would survive . Starter motors... well it would be covered by any warranty and at least you have a written contractual warranty that implies the major components will last the life of the warranty period or be replaced/repaired. With Land Rover the issues that would be covered by a similar warranty to Hyundai, Mist Triton etc are the very things, the major things that can write off a 5-7 year old vehicle that LR must provide satisfaction against.

Cheerd

Yes, most consumers consider that is what warranty means - total replacement, free of charge, for any failure in the warranty period. Doh.