Thread: E10 issues.

E10 will dissolve older hoses etc....

Not a good fuel in older vehicles.

E10 is supposed not to be more aggressive in attacking hoses and old sludge deposits than is unleaded, but there may be a slight effect. I would be very surprised if any effect showed up on a single tank, and if it did, I would suspect dirty fuel rather than the effect of the alcohol in the fuel. It could also be coincidence.

John

Standard unleaded is now allowed to be up to E10 without anyone telling you. The only fuel guaranteed not to contain any ethanol are the premium blends.

A friend in Canberra had to replace his 80"s SU fuel pump diaphragms three times in one year on unleaded. He now only uses premium in that series one.

A chief engineer from Impco Technologies (LPG) warned me that E10 was designed to used immediately. It can absorb 10% weight of water, so if your friend's tank was not fully pressure sealed it might have had some water vapour present. Any duel fuel vehicle should never keep E10 in the tank, only premium, so it lasts long enough to work without damage.

Lotz-A-Landies. Q - Standard unleaded is now allowed to be up to E10 without anyone telling you.-Q.

I did not know that. Is this Australia wide or state specific? If state specific which states can do this? Thanks.

NSW is making 91 E10 mandatory
The second phase of the New South Wales Government’s biofuels strategy has been locked in, with outlets at major retailers like Coles and Woolworths now under the state’s E10 mandate.

Retailers must now ensure that, on average, two percent of all petrol sold is ethanol.

In making the announcement on October 20, State Minister for Lands Tony Kelly said E10 now accounts for more than 20 percent of all petrol sold in NSW.

“Well over one billion litres of the ethanol-blended fuel has been sold,” he said. “The government will ensure this success continues with further mandatory requirements, which will include increasing the average ethanol content required to four percent from January 1, 2010.

“This will increase to six percent a year later and from July 1, 2011, E10 will replace regular grade unleaded petrol. Premium unleaded will still be available without ethanol for those who cannot use ethanol-blended fuel.”

The minister repeated that a two percent biodiesel mandate will be introduced next January, rising to five percent in 2011.

There you go. AFAIK no other state has mandated.
Regards Philip A

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Retailers must now ensure that, on average, two percent of all petrol sold is ethanol.

But this doesn't imply that all unleaded will have a minimum of 2% ethanol - if sales of e10 were to pick up this target could be met without adding ethanol to the rest of the fuels.

I hope .

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

A friend of mine has an old crappy nissan pintara which has always had unleaded in it. On Wednesday he needed fuel and the garage was out of unleaded (supposedly) so he filled up with E10.

On start the following morning it started a bit rough and got worse during the day. He came to me for help and I just assumed from his description the fuel pump was playing up or more likely a blocked fuel filter - I did not know about being filled with e10 at that stage. As I was not in a position to replace the filter at the time, I drained it hoping to move enough crude to at least make it drivable until the filter could be replaced - there was some very fine black particles in the fuel that came out bit nothing really yukie.

The filter went back in and the car is running better than before but still not perfect. I have suggested the guy get a full tuneup and replace filters etc.

So anyone else had issues with E10 in older cars?

Garry

my 1995 hyundai runs on e10 or petrol plus etc with no worries at all
but my 1995 v8i disco hates it