Bad timing......sounds like I could have brought a double swag off you
We currently use 2 double swags for SWMBO, the 3 and 5 yo kids and myself (dynamic combination - whoever lays down where!) and sleeping bags.
When we're all camping, we use them in the JetTent, and they're ok, but when on my own I don't want to bother with the tent.
However, they take up heaps of room, and need 2 people to roll them up effectively to allow them to fit in the camping canopy. On top of this, they're not waterproof (well, I wouldn't use them in the rain without a cover), and you can't really get dressed or eat in them.
Ultimately, I think swags are overrated.They served there purpose for years when there was no real alternative, but I suspect they've now been superseded by a decent mattress, sleeping bag an small tent.
So, I'm looking at swapping them for something we can lay out in the JetTent as a family, or I can use on my own without needing to get out the JetTent.
I'm thinking of going back to self-inflatable mattresses (the proper hiking style - not the fat, foam mattress imposters currently kicking around, that still take up heaps of room). This would greatly reduce the volume they take up in the canopy. Maybe I'll also invest in of them gimmicky looking instant pop-up tents that I can use when on my own.
So, unless anyone can think of a better option, I'm open to recommendations for sleeping mats and small tents.
Anyone?
Bad timing......sounds like I could have brought a double swag off you
You need a Bivi Bag. It's a waterproof cover that your sleeping mat and bag fit inside. See this link. My wife made mine!!
HTH
Ivan
I've started using an ex-army bivvi from Aussie Disposals. I think it's unissued dutch military. With an Exped synmat and a decent sleeping bag it's light, warm and dry.
Hi Ranga.
The Synmats are EXCELLENT gear. I bought one to try and immediately bought another for the Girlie since she has a bad back. Previous lightweight motorcycle touring trips were difficult for her until she was sleeping on one of those.
As far as I know Exped only make single Synmats and Downmats, and they're not wide things at the best of times. I've never seen double bivvys but I think if you're looking for "together time" another tent is probably the best bet.
THIS is what I have. I bought it for an event where early starts are a must and last year I either wasted time evening and morning with the tent setup and packing, or slept completely uncovered in my sleeping bag. Most of the crew on the event used swags, but since I had to fly with most of my kit on top of 20kg of camera gear I really didn't want the additional bulk. Quality is excellent and at 6'6" it was certainly long enough. They specify it at 200cm long, but it's bigger than that, has mozzie mesh and a pole to keep the top off your face. I'm a beanpole so didn't find it too cramped. If you're a lumberjack type or otherwise "width advantaged" it might get a little too cozy.
As long as you have room to carry them in the car, the Oztrail 4wd leisure mats are popular here in store. They come in single, king single, double and queen, at 10cm thick they are comfy, and insulate you from the cold earth.
Double OR oztent and oztrail make some great stretchers, the oztrail easy fold queen stretcher is esp good, and easy to set up. Oztent stretchers are padded but dont come in queen sizes
take no note of the prices as its full blown retail, we have them cheaper if your interested, PM me
Dan
Gee those Synmats look the business.
I've got a Thermarest, which is super light, and rolls up reasonably compact, but doesn't inflate very thick.
The Synmat 7 models that we use pack to about 20cm x 15cm, smaller if you work at it. Weight is less than 1KG. I'll never use my Thermarests again.
I'll check out the the Synmats, but think a small hiking tent would be more practical than a bivvy bag. I've actually got a small Kathmandu hiking tent that was great until the waterproofing came away in flakes.Bloody expensive until I bought it half price (should have been the normal price!).
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