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    Want to reinstate EAS in 93RRC

    My 93 vogue se originally had EAS but the previous owner swapped it all out for coil springs. Now I want to go back to the air springs but everything seems to be gone from under the car, valve block etc... Ride height buttons are still in the dash. Where do I look to see if the other electronics are still there ie the ecu for it?
    Also how hard would it be to source the missing bits? What sensors should be under the car?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Why ?


    You will be up for LOTS of money, and unless you're a dyed-in-the-wool LR /RRC tragic with a few thousand spare dollars, you will not end up "happy".

    For starters, look on the outside of the chassis rails front/rear to see if the height sensors are still there. Then go on-line and search for new ones, as 19 years is stretching it... (One of mine is mortally wounded...)

    Try around £70 each, and yes, all 4 have a differant part number.

    The air tank lives on the outside of the LH chassis rail under the LH passenger seat.

    Valve body and pump on the RH side, under rear passenger. - See if the wiring and plug(s) are intact.

    One box of Black Magic lives under the driver's seat, another in the underslung valve/pump box.

    Air filter lurks behind the sub-woofer, inside RH rear wing.

    Sure you really want Air $uspension ???

    PS, If you only need extra height when in the Ruff Stuff, have you considered Polyairs inside your 4 coils ? Cheaper, and heaps more reliable...


    Disclaimer:- Mine is a '95 Vogue SE with a working EAS, due to spending unjustified amounts of money... with more to come. Or rather, "go"...
    IMHO and coming from Jap/German/Aussie vehicles, I regard the later model RRC's as not 'fit for purpose' due to reliability/consistancy issues and the EAS merely makes it worse... Mine came with non-leaking bags, but disconnected and U/S pump. Valve body was allegedly ok. Too much temptation & challenge for me !
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    Some pics.

    Right hand side height sensor locations.

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    Given the unreliability of the OEM system, is it possible to graft after-market components onto the OEM ECU and controls?

    Air Ride Suspension Supplies - Air Supply & Control


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    Thanks for the replies and pictures!

    I have been considering putting it back to airbags because of the experience I now have with D2 airbags and compressors.
    In the disco I have fitted a Viair compressor and a 12volt soleniod for the exhaust side (to let them down after off road mode etc). This is wired up to the existing everything else and works perfectly.

    I guess the thing is, if all the sensors have been removed (as I know the valve block has been) then it is probably going to be too expensive to worry about. Already have the helper airbags in the back springs.
    I have some spare D2 airbags and was thinking about putting them in place of the springs, with some mounting mods of course, and just running a schrader type valve to each.

    I'm really just sounding out some ideas here, as time will play a big factor in it all. With our first baby on the way (Yay!) and house renos to be finished ASAP it might be on the back burner for some time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Given the unreliability of the OEM system, is it possible to graft after-market components onto the OEM ECU and controls?

    Air Ride Suspension Supplies - Air Supply & Control

    Wouldn't that kit be worth more than a RRC....

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    ... YES....

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    OK.... couple of ideas.

    Older Rolls Royces only had air-adjustable in the rear, for load-levelling. The front hardly varies.
    Suggestion (A) - keep the rear helpers and if you need to be fancy, add a pair of pressure gauges and suitable valves/solonoids, pump switches etc.
    This will only give you 'levelling' at your standard (front) spring height.

    Personally, I'd install a pair of Schraeder valves somewhere in the rear.= Cheapest and most reliable.

    Suggestion ( Install a pair of helpers in the front springs. - Same thing, either a set of solonoids/valves etc etc. Or two schraeders up front somewhere.
    This will give you 'lift' over the standard spring height, front and rear.

    If you add front bags, then you're able to really fiddle around, and so things such as join the front to the rears on each side, turning your Classic into a two-tonne Morris 1500 / Austin 1800 !!!

    (When you go over a bump, the front is pushed upwards, and this pressure is transmitted to the rear, which pushes DOWN, thus lifting the back end of the car as the front is pushed up... the car stays on an even keel and merely goes up/down, rather than the car pivoting. - Its a smooother ride.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR LR jnr. View Post
    Wouldn't that kit be worth more than a RRC....
    A couple of grand, but you don't have to buy the whole kit, just the components needed to graft in.

    The RRc and P38 compressors have a reputation of being are quite unreliable, so by going after market you can likely get a better compressor for less than OEM.

    The Air Bag man Land Rover Parts supplies OEM Land Rover parts and after market kits for other models.

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    Do you still have the front axle EAS brackets and shock towers?

    I keep considering air suspension for my classic and these are the difficult parts to source. I wouldn't be reinstating a factory system, nor an overpriced bling aftermarket system as shown in this thread. I'd be going for factory look but much simplified control with manual over-ride.

    I'm told P38 bags and mounts can be used.

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