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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    See: Air Spring Replacement

    My procedure is shown there.
    Hey Ron

    I've found a rumour that Classic and P38 airbags are the same. Connection details etc differ but the rubber bits don't.

    Can you offer anything to confirm/deny that?
    If that was the case, what's the story with running rear bags on the front of the P38?

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    If the bags are dead on your classic, why not place a wanted here for some dead bags out of a P38 (freebies 'cos there just scrap).... 1 front and 1 rear would suffice. You could compare them externally with yours, then cut the in half and ensure they are the same structure wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Hey Ron

    I've found a rumour that Classic and P38 airbags are the same. Connection details etc differ but the rubber bits don't.

    Can you offer anything to confirm/deny that?
    If that was the case, what's the story with running rear bags on the front of the P38?

    The two spare bags I have out in the shed, the p38 one is about 2 inches longer than the classic one, both are rears. The holes look the same so I dont see why you couldn't interchange them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp View Post
    The two spare bags I have out in the shed, the p38 one is about 2 inches longer than the classic one, both are rears. The holes look the same so I dont see why you couldn't interchange them.
    Very interesting. Can you measure these for me? I have 2 classic rears on order. If they work on the front. Then that's where they'll go. If not they'll go on the back and I can go stock for fronts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    If the bags are dead on your classic, why not place a wanted here for some dead bags out of a P38 (freebies 'cos there just scrap).... 1 front and 1 rear would suffice. You could compare them externally with yours, then cut the in half and ensure they are the same structure wise
    That just a lot of shagging around. I know the series and fitment for the bags are the same. It's only the length that is in question.

    My current bags aren't dead, just mortally wounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    That just a lot of shagging around. I know the series and fitment for the bags are the same. It's only the length that is in question.

    My current bags aren't dead, just mortally wounded.
    That makes sense. I was concerned there might be valving or "air movement" restriction valves in the heads of the bags that aren't visible without cutting them open. If they did, this would change the behavior of the bag ( therefore you need different front/rears even though the bags are the same ).

    If they are infact the same, is there anything to stop people "group buying" in a stack of the longer bags and importing them snail mail to Australia ? Given it's just a rubber bellow, is it possible the longer bag will work in any location

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    Sounds tempting... My recurring nightmare is one (or more...) of my ARNOTTS units leaking... unrepairable AFAIK, lots more expensive than the single bladder at around $90 each.

    If the front and rear can take the longer ("rear") bag, that makes carrying a spare bag for each end easier. Only ONE needed, not two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    Sounds tempting... My recurring nightmare is one (or more...) of my ARNOTTS units leaking... unrepairable AFAIK, lots more expensive than the single bladder at around $90 each.

    If the front and rear can take the longer ("rear") bag, that makes carrying a spare bag for each end easier. Only ONE needed, not two.

    1995 'Classic' Vogue SE with working EAS...
    Yes we shall see. I know if I carry a spare air-sleeve then I'll never need one. I've got no sub-woofer so heaps of space right there to carry a spare of each if required.

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    please excuse the mobile phone pics!

    From the two photo's you can see the rear airbag man classic bellow is approx 70mm LONGER than the front arnots P38 bellow.

    its an airbag man AB0002 and an arnots 1E01.

    They both have an approx 70mm hole at top and bottom.
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    Compare an Arnotts Gen III P38 rear bag to the airbag man bag. I think you'll find the rear bags on a P38 are longer than the fronts.

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