OldBushie
No this was a pic sent to me from SheldonA on here, its a cast he has done as he is making a heap of different kits to suit the 4bd1. Have a look in the isuzu section.
YarnMaster
SupporterWhat was wrong with the stroker holden.... I don't quite get how something that probably has 500hp and 450'ish Nm of torque could be no quicker than a dated oil burner featuring 120hp and 314Nm....Originally Posted by Vern
the 2litre oil burner in my wifes old poogoe makes far, far, far more power and torque than the old isuzu ... (though it is quite laggy IMO). and probably uses half the deisel to do it (and that's a 15year old diesel desigin too).
seeya,
Shane L.
Proper cars--
'92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
'85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
'63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
Modern Junk:
'07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
'11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual
OldBushie
I doubt the stoker made 500hp, maybe 300Hp. And who said the "old oil burner" is stock. Those who know more than me have estimated my current engine at around 180kw and 650Nm ir there abouts.
YarnMaster
Supporterstock == reliable for the oil burners.... see all the bells and whistles blowing in that video. Why would anyone want something they can't even accellerate to the speed limit in without blowing the EGT's out to danger levels. It didn't even have a caravan strung to it's towbar .... and wasn't even going uphill
I think the go is the citroen/poogoe/land rover/ford V6 diesel. it's a very old dated design now (used in the citroen c6 way back in 2005 ). so low powered compared to the current generation of diesels. but it's refined and a proven/tested design. You can also grab one from a territory wreck
I can understand wanting an old mechanical deisel for simplicity and reliability, but you take those two aspects away once you start modifying them IMO.
Have you really doubled the power and torque output from the old truck engine ?? Wouldn't that absolutely kill reliability. It wasn't designed to be put under those sorts of loads
If you keep your eye on the auctions ... that later poogoes and citroen c5's have the 3.0 V6 with considerably more grunt than the earlier 2.7's
seeya,
Shane L.
Proper cars--
'92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
'85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
'63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
Modern Junk:
'07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
'11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual
OldBushie
Bells and whistles. I used to drive that thing all the time, it was in no danger.
Tried and tested? I best suggest you research on the 4bd1 then.
Mine taps out at 160kph, no egt alarms, happily does it.
Mine barely knows when it has the camper on the back, unlike our 300tdi, the old holden stroker, and our new vw amarok.
Simplicity, reliability, power and heaps of torque, and it all bolts in to a landrover. Thats why
YarnMaster
SupporterOh, I didn't realise that was your car in the video, I didn't mean to be insulting, it's just my opinion ( not that my opinion is worth much). Something bog standard should (well in theory) be far more reliable over something considerably modified for peformance
Do you really think it goes better than an amarok. I spoke to someone in a caravan park last year who owned one of them..... he reckon it was staggering, you couldn't even tell his very heavy caravan was behind it... The V10 just hauls.
seeya,
Sahne L.
Proper cars--
'92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
'85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
'63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
Modern Junk:
'07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
'11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual
OldBushie
No its matts car, but i used to drive it all the time.
The amarok is not a v10, its a 2L twin turbo.
No ttr getting into the bog stock vs modified on an isuzu, i suggest you research it, or even better, have a look at the bottom end of one.
V10 Amarok??? Touareg maybe!
YarnMaster
SupporterOh, yeah it was a touareg ... it had tacky plastic vw badges anyway... and looked about as appealing and as interesting as a hernia ...
I just can't get enthused about anything with a VW badge.
seeya,
Shane L.
Proper cars--
'92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
'85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
'63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
Modern Junk:
'07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
'11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual
Wizard
The v10 toe rag is a POS.
And the fuel consumption is worse than a 3.9 with leaky injectors.
I know 3 guys who bought them. Only one has kept it. His wife drives it on the school run, and he's looking to get rid of it in the next 6 months.
to keep the swap LR-centric, I would do the isuzu turbo, but boy are they a noisy bucket of bolts.
There are other more efficient, more modern diesels - but - the most logical question to ask is this: "If it breaks down hundreds of k's away from civilisation, how are you going to get it fixed?"
That question could be a matter of survival. This is why so many people still choose older engines and prefer mechanical IP's to the 'new fandangled electronic ones' - for fear the electric stuff might break. To some extent, there is a degree of truth in this, but the reality is they are every bit as reliable as each other. Problem is, electrical stuff scares a lot of people. because you can't see the electrons flowing in the wires... and you can't fix broken electronic modules covered in plastic and conformal.... but you can see mechanical stuff moving, or not moving - and you 'might' be able to fix it with clumsy fingers and a couple of large rocks......
There are many many swap options that have been documented. All one needs to do is to decide on which path to take.... petrol or diesel, normally aspirated or forced induction.
After that, it's just time and money..... Lots of money.
Roads?.. Where we're going, we don't need roads...
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