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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    2-3litres/10,000km..
    That's not really very bad at all.
    if it start burning that every 100 or 1000km it might be worth investigating.

    see what happens after a few full oil changes and the crud gets washed out.
    use a decent quality oil like Castrol RX super or Isuzu Gold 15w40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris078 View Post
    That's not really very bad at all.
    if it start burning that every 100 or 1000km it might be worth investigating.

    see what happens after a few full oil changes and the crud gets washed out.
    use a decent quality oil like Castrol RX super or Isuzu Gold 15w40.
    The manual says SAE40 so I use Penrite HPR40 25W-70.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    The manual says SAE40 so I use Penrite HPR40 25W-70.
    hmm. I thought SAE40 OMD115 was 15w40. Certainly that is what everyone I have spoken to uses in their Perenties

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    Toyota dealer told us that the reason their product used oil was that we used dello 400 LE 15W-40. we advised to use a synthetic 5W-30.


    The trial of a few new vehicles vehicles that we picked all used more oil with the 5W-30. and showed no other benifit in the 120K that we keep them.


    The Isuzu we have make oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    The manual says SAE40 so I use Penrite HPR40 25W-70.
    Firstly that is a petrol oil, so not suitable for diesels.

    Secondly it is far too thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Firstly that is a petrol oil, so not suitable for diesels.

    Secondly it is far too thick.

    Just double checked and the manual says SAE grade 40 (OMD 115) but that is 15w40.

    Mick if you really are running 25w70 I'm amazed that motor has not had a failure of some kind. That oil is way too thick.
    You should change it and enjoy a huge increase in power. Your oil pump will love you as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris078 View Post
    Just double checked and the manual says SAE grade 40 (OMD 115) but that is 15w40.

    Mick if you really are running 25w70 I'm amazed that motor has not had a failure of some kind. That oil is way too thick.
    You should change it and enjoy a huge increase in power. Your oil pump will love you as well.
    Apart from the viscosity issue, more important is that the oil he quoted is a petrol engine oil, which means it doesn't have the additive package (surfactants etc) to cope with all the soot that diesels put in the fuel. So the engine will be subject to accelerated wear and sludging issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris078 View Post
    Just double checked and the manual says SAE grade 40 (OMD 115) but that is 15w40.

    Mick if you really are running 25w70 I'm amazed that motor has not had a failure of some kind. That oil is way too thick.
    You should change it and enjoy a huge increase in power. Your oil pump will love you as well.
    The Perentie manual as published by the ADF says to use SAE40 oil.
    Penrite HPR40 oil is SAE40.
    I spoke to a Penrite rep, showed him the documentation and asked for his recommendation. He pointed to HPR40 oil. The Penrite rep I would suggest has a greater knowledge of oils than most.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are and I am. I'm a fellow who wants opinion to be backed up by documentation. Verifiable documentation, not just someone's opinion written on a piece of paper.
    I can produce the ADF advice to use SAE40 oil.
    Ok, so you use a thinner oil. Where is the documentation that supports your choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    The Perentie manual as published by the ADF says to use SAE40 oil.
    Penrite HPR40 oil is SAE40.
    I spoke to a Penrite rep, showed him the documentation and asked for his recommendation. He pointed to HPR40 oil. The Penrite rep I would suggest has a greater knowledge of oils than most.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are and I am. I'm a fellow who wants opinion to be backed up by documentation. Verifiable documentation, not just someone's opinion written on a piece of paper.
    I can produce the ADF advice to use SAE40 oil.
    Ok, so you use a thinner oil. Where is the documentation that supports your choice?

    I'm pretty sure they've stuffed up Mick. Reading through Penrites page on that product, it seems it's a petrol oil, not a diesel oil. Then there is the viscosity issue, which naturally now I'm looking for it, I cannot find the proper government page that describes the definition of OMD-115 but I can say I went through it and 15w40 was what it came out as.

    How long have you been using that oil for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penrite
    HPR 40 CODE: HPR4001, HPR40005, HPR40020, HPR40060, HPR40205
    Penrite HPR 40 is a premium 25W -70 non-friction
    modified, high viscosity engine oil. ...
    ...
    Penrite HPR 40 meets the requirements of API SL/CF.
    ...
    Designed for use in older design, ... petrol engines
    ...
    ...
    Also suitable for older naturally aspirated (non-turbo) passenger car diesel engines. Newer light commercial and four wheel drive diesel vehicles should use Penrite HPR Diesel or HPR Diesel 15 as appropriate.
    The above is data from penrite's pdf.

    You can see it is not a diesel oil - penrite say you "can" use it in old, light duty, non 4x4, diesels. It is only rated to API CF. Proper diesel oils like Castrol RX Super and Penrite HPR Diesel oil are rated to API CI-4 Plus which is several generations better in additives.

    But by all means don't believe us and continue to destroy your engine...

    And from someone who maintained the things for countless years...
    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    omd 115 = 15/40 diesel engine oil.

    nearest current civvie oil is caltes delo 15/40 but caltex rx super is also on the cards.


    at the end of the day, almost any mineral 15/40w diesel engine oil is good for the omd115 spec.

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