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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    Have any of the members give the flick to MS Office and using Open Office?
    I do on Win 8.1
    its ok but light,

    very week in the excel and BD department, shocking to suck in data and export etc.

    example, date formats nice bit of nesting, since when pulling in from a couple of older orical DB i get only the number of minits since that dude and the cross thing was born

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    One thing I hate straight out of the box is--
    when you scroll down through a list of files and stop to read/whatever the screen snaps back to top of page
    Fixed!
    its all to do with a checkbox in "Personalisation"
    just pick ONE background colour,
    rather than constant colour changes,
    and its all good!
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    Well,that's just so obvious, innit? ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    Have any of the members give the flick to MS Office and using Open Office?
    I do on Win 8.1
    I have it on my mac for simple functions. Nowhere near the power of Excel but then most people don't need it.

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    I have just received this from a mate. If this is true it is scary!!

    From a "dark" site.
    A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10

    Some Czech guy did a traffic analysis of data produced by Windows 10, and released his findings the other day. His primary thesis was that Windows 10 acts more like a terminal than an operating system -- because of the extent of the "cloud" integration, a large portion of the OS functions are almost dependant on remote (Microsoft's) servers. The amount of collected information, even with strict privacy settings, is quite alarming.
    Information transmitted
    All text typed on the keyboard is stored in temporary files, and sent (once per 30 mins) to:
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    There isn't a clear purpose for this, considering there there's no autocorrect/prediction anywhere in the OS. The implications of this are significant: because this is an OS-level keylogger, all the data you're trying to transmit securely is now sitting on some MS server. This includes passwords and encrypted chats. This also includes the on-screen keyboard, so there is no way to authenticate to a website without MS also getting your password.
    Telemetry is sent once per 5 minutes, to:
    vortex.data.microsoft.com
    vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    You might think that "telemetry" has to do with OS usage or similar... turns out it's telemetry about the user. For example, typing a phone number anywhere into the Edge browser transmits it to the servers above. In another example, typing the name of any popular movie into your local file search starts a telemetry process that indexes all media files on your computer and transmits them to:
    df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    It's hard to imagine any purpose for this other than the obvious piracy crackdown possiblities.
    When a webcam is first enabled, ~35mb of data gets immediately transmitted to:
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    Everything that is said into an enabled microphone is immediately transmitted to:
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    telemetry.appex.bing.net
    telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
    cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
    statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
    If this weren't bad enough, this behaviour still occurs after Cortana is fully disabled/uninstalled. It's speculated that the purpose of this function to build up a massive voice database, then tie those voices to identities, and eventually be able to identify anyone simply by picking up their voice, whether it be a microphone in a public place or a wiretap on a payphone.
    Interestingly, if Cortana is enabled, the voice is first transcribed to text, then the transcription is sent to:
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    If Windows is left unattended for ~15 mins, a large volume of traffic starts being transmitted to various servers. This may be the raw audio data, rather than just samples.
    Other concerns
    While the inital reflex may be to block all of the above servers via HOSTS, it turns out this won't work: Microsoft has taken the care to hardcode certain IPs, meaning that there is no DNS lookup and no HOSTS consultation. However, if the above servers are blocked via HOSTS, Windows will pretend to be crippled by continuously throwing errors, while still maintaining data collection in the background. Other than an increase in errors, HOSTS blocking did not affect the volume, frequency, or rate of data being transmitted.
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    that traffic analysis is not verified - its junk.
    A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10 - root@localghost:~#

    It would be insane if they collected all keystrokes. Massive security fail, and all over for windows 10.

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    The Sydney Morning Herald has today published an article about those on limited and expensive data caps (e.g. using mobile networks or satellite) getting hit with whacking bills from Windows 10 traffic - one, I think in Cook Is has a bill for $600 from Windows 10.

    Fears Windows 10 will blow data caps

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    Well it seems the big three you need to uninstall before upgrading are

    1) Any Nortons

    2) Nvidia Video Drivers

    3) Cisco VPN gear

    if you have an anti virus other than nortons you can just turn it off prior to upgrading from what i have seen so far.
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    I'm still laughing at them calling their PA Cortana
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    Hi Inscisor,
    I use nortons and I've been getting msgs saying that its now compatable with windoze 10.
    Dont know if its true or not as I havent downloaded "10" yet.
    Am going to wait a while yet before I commit to downloading it.
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