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    microsoft tried to break the rising popularity OS/2 by modifying word to grab 1gig of ram on opening if my memory serves me rightly, it didnt affect other office apps.

    and as an aside,

    most installs of 98 wont even boot with 1gig of ram in the machine, the os usually needs a PAE patch if my memory serves me rightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike 90 RR View Post
    Thoughts on this subject

    If you just installed this program (office) and then all this happened then you most likely have a RAM issue

    (It can also make your video card outdated) Hence: Hardware problems

    Most "off the shelf" computers are sold with the bare minimum RAM

    The minimum amount of RAM, if you want windows to run "Office" is;
    Win 98 = 1gig
    win 2000= 2gig
    Win XP = 2gig
    Vista= 4gig

    Windows tries to use as much RAM as possible when running it's programs
    & the more you use & the more you stick in up-todate programs (office 03 upgraded to Office 07) the worse it gets

    Bill Gates: What happened to clean & simple?
    My old laptop has 1 gig runs office perfectly on XP, my sons PC has office with 0.750 gb - runs office perfectly, my new laptop 2 gig on Vista runs office perfectly, my main PC with 1 gig on XP runs perfectly

    Can't really see where you get your numbers from - but what I do understand is that the more memory you have the more the MS OS and Office will try to use.

    My feeling is that ACE has some doggy memory and may want to have that tested first. Or just upgrade to a bigger/better / memory.

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    Can't really see where you get your numbers from - but what I do understand is that the more memory you have the more the MS OS and Office will try to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Ditch Windows.
    MS Office is very demanding of resources, and apart from the above suggestions, it is possible that it is not frozen, but running a Word or Excel macro that is using all your resources, quite possibly one that was added to your computer as an unintended attachment to one of those Word documents someone sent you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garryc View Post
    The easiest way is to use a Linux and Open Office instead of Bill's stuff.
    I was sort of hinting that, although O.O.o is pretty much of a memory hog itself, and also has a few undocumented features. But at least it does not run Word or Excel macro-viruses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    most installs of 98 wont even boot with 1gig of ram in the machine, the os usually needs a PAE patch if my memory serves me rightly.
    from what I remember 98se will run with 1GB or more and it will register that it has over 1GB but ti can only use 512mb total.

    XP = 4GB
    vista 32bit = 4GB
    vista 64bit home = 16GB
    vista 64bit business = a lot

    Mike99R
    "the more memory you have the more the MS OS and Office will try to use."

    XP can only use a max of 2GB for OS, (3GB if you modify startup) and 2GB apps, (1GB if you modify startup)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HangOver View Post
    from what I remember 98se will run with 1GB or more and it will register that it has over 1GB but ti can only use 512mb total.

    XP = 4GB
    vista 32bit = 4GB
    vista 64bit home = 16GB
    vista 64bit business = a lot

    Mike99R
    "the more memory you have the more the MS OS and Office will try to use."

    XP can only use a max of 2GB for OS, (3GB if you modify startup) and 2GB apps, (1GB if you modify startup)
    Hangover
    Thanks for that info

    I had 1.5gig on 98SE with no dramas (never used 98 1st edition)
    & oh no, more RAM to buy $$$$ (running XP pro with 2gig)

    & no wonder i am avoiding vista!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HangOver View Post
    from what I remember 98se will run with 1GB or more and it will register that it has over 1GB but ti can only use 512mb total.
    se has the pae fix built in, that was one of the bigger reasons for its release
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike 90 RR View Post
    Hangover
    Thanks for that info

    I had 1.5gig on 98SE with no dramas (never used 98 1st edition)
    & oh no, more RAM to buy $$$$ (running XP pro with 2gig)

    & no wonder i am avoiding vista!!!
    I hope I haven't misleaded you with those figures for ram they incicate the MAXIMUM ram that the operating system CAN use, not what you NEED to use.

    XP = 4GB
    vista 32bit = 4GB
    vista 64bit home = 16GB
    vista 64bit business = a lot

    in my experience if you are just using office stuff, email etc 2GB on XP will be fine. Saying that DDR ram is very cheap at the moment. not so the case with SD.
    My laptop has 1GBram, my desktop 2GB ram both on XP pro both run fine.

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