Thread: Disco one getting unsettled over bumps

Originally Posted by bmw535guy

how do you do your own????
And i asked them to adjust steering bump stops, which they didnt so hrm....you might be onto something
Wouldnt they know it needs toe out?
Would this explain the issues im experiencing?

Not being facetious here but just because they run a business doesn't mean they know what they're doing. Unless they know what it should have been set to it could be anything.

Checking toe out is dead simple on a Rover front end since it's the only adjustment there. Camber and caster are not adjustable so all I do is measure from the inside edges of the rims behind and in front of the axle. I check front and back a number of times with wheels rotated slightly each time using a telescoping rod.

Depending on what it's set to, yes it can influence stability and road holding.

Originally Posted by bmw535guy

Hi People,
I would appreciate some help as my disco tends to get "unsettled" i.e. i have to correct the path of steering more often then i would like over bumps, now i know these arent sports cars but father had 95 300tdi and worked fine.

Car 94 200tdi 5dr disco
2 inch lift (unknown black springs)
old man emu shocks (unknown age but seem to be good)
Poly bushes all round (not happy as hat poly but how i bought it and all good)
265/70/16 rubber (intending on going 245/70/16 when i wear out due to gearing)
New adjustable steering damper
both sway bars remove (previous owner)
Had wheels ballanced and alignment done last week (could they have stuffed it up?)
pressure front 28 pri, rear 36psi

Where would you start in finding the issue?

Also towed a car trailer yesterday and a 1.4 tonne bmw on it and over 80km /hr the disco went into a "wallow" so i stuck to 70-80km/hr

I hope you can help

Did you remove or at least undo one end of the shocks and test to see if they are good, if you didn't, might be an idea to check, Regards Frank.

when my disco was having issues with Bumps etc it was due to swivel preload not being enough...

I would say have that checked especially as your on bigger tyres.

Hey Mate,

Just wanted to comment on how much "offroad performance" you are likely to use by putting the sway bars back on.

There is a reasonable amount of flex to be gained by having the sway bars removed. Not heaps, but sometimes every little bit helps. However, you did mention that you are really quite new to 4WDing. To be honest, and don't take this the wrong way please, you are unlikely to loose ANY offroad performance by replacing the sway bars. The limiting factor for you at this stage is likely to be your skill level and confidence, not the car!

The Disco's are a seriously capable offroad vehicle, even in their most standard form. I have seen Disco's, and personally put my own Disco, through some seriously difficult obstacles. I am a reasonably well experienced offroader and even now I find sometimes my skill, or my judgement, is what has stopped me on\through obstacles, rather than my Disco.

If it is in fact your lack of sway bars that is causing a reasonable amount of your issues, I wouldn't even hesitate to replace them. Also, you need to remember your car is in fact unroadworthy, by letter of law, with them removed. I personally have several things on my Disco that may make it unroadworthy, so I'm not taking a dig. Just thought I would point it out.

Hope this helps your decision making.

Chris

the swaybars in a disco arent that restrictive untill you up the spring height.

untill you learn its foibles put the sway bars on Its very rare that most people who have a stockish disco will push it to the point where the swaybars are the limiting factor and if we get really honest about it probably 80%+ of the people who do offroad mods (and dont get extreme about it) will fall into the same boat running out of pucker factor long before the vehicle gets to the point where its at its limits.

if its less than +2 inches in the springs and +2 in the rolling radius of the tyres then in most cases you wont notice having the sway bars on and (per bar)it takes less than 10 minutes with a pair of pliers, a spanner and a couple of zipties to get it off and up out of the way if you really desperately need the extra bit of flex.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

and (per bar)it takes less than 10 minutes with a pair of pliers, a spanner and a couple of zipties to get it off and up out of the way if you really desperately need the extra bit of flex.

Speak for yourself, mine were so freakin stuck when I first went to take them off! It took about an hour! Gotta admit though, mine is the exception to the rule, if they are maintained properly you're right, takes bugger all to get them off.

Chris

Originally Posted by libertyts

Hey Mate,

Just wanted to comment on how much "offroad performance" you are likely to use by putting the sway bars back on.

There is a reasonable amount of flex to be gained by having the sway bars removed. Not heaps, but sometimes every little bit helps. However, you did mention that you are really quite new to 4WDing. To be honest, and don't take this the wrong way please, you are unlikely to loose ANY offroad performance by replacing the sway bars. The limiting factor for you at this stage is likely to be your skill level and confidence, not the car!

The Disco's are a seriously capable offroad vehicle, even in their most standard form. I have seen Disco's, and personally put my own Disco, through some seriously difficult obstacles. I am a reasonably well experienced offroader and even now I find sometimes my skill, or my judgement, is what has stopped me on\through obstacles, rather than my Disco.

If it is in fact your lack of sway bars that is causing a reasonable amount of your issues, I wouldn't even hesitate to replace them. Also, you need to remember your car is in fact unroadworthy, by letter of law, with them removed. I personally have several things on my Disco that may make it unroadworthy, so I'm not taking a dig. Just thought I would point it out.

Hope this helps your decision making.

Chris

Thanks mate, i know where your coming from.......... dont stress i dont worry about being pointed out that im a noob at 4wd ing...........after all im asking the questions due to the noobiness

Hrm unroadworthy, wasnt aware of that.........and mechanic didnt notice for the RWc hahahahahah

Their going on tomorrow and we will see

I cant find anyone that mentioned the bushes apart from the aframe ball joint.

I had the same issue and after replacement bushes all round the problem was fixed.