Thread: late d1 vs early d2 diesel

I love my 98 tdi auto but if i was buying now i would be looking for late D2 TD5 auto.

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yeah perfect world I would just get a 2004 d2, but not wanting to spend that much money, if I wasent restricted by the p plate issue I would prob get a rrc lse

I can't speak for a 300 tdi auto D1 but can say that the D2 td5 auto makes a good tow tug. If you are worried about electronics then you will be ruling out a vehicle with well known fixable issues.

For me the zf auto in the d2 becomes a concern after 200 k km, I expect the D1 auto would also be getting a bit sus by then.

An ECU controlled engine will deliver greater torque than a non smoking mechanical fuel pump, I'd go the D2.

ecu controlled auto's generally have softer shifts then the older mechanical ones that is done by sliping the clutches causing wear, with the old rrc we had the auto started to get slow to shift into top at about 480'000km which the car was replaced then with a newer rrc which we still have but again p plate issue
considering the cars I would be buying would be in the 200'000 to 300'000km range having to worry about getting the gearbox rebuilt becomes a bit of a worry,
so is the gearbox issues a lack of servicing or that's just when they wear out issue?

to be honest I prefer the td5 engine with its unit injector design but that's what I work on everyday of the week
I mainly don't wan to buy a car then have to spend anther 5k in 6-12months time rebuilding a gearbox or engine

My 98 300Tdi Auto has 482,000k's and is going strong.

Ive not had any issues with the ZF 4 Speed Auto. It tows well and I like the fact it isnt electronic as is the mechanical fuel injection.

I have been looking at a possible replacement when I hit 500,000k's but there is nothing around today that will easily do 500,000k's. The service costs are quite high and also the need to be careful with the common rail diesel system.

The D2's do drive well and possible pull better, but if your are looking at a 300k old D1 would be cheaper to buy, run and maintain than a 300k old D2.

In my humble opinion, but I maybe totally wrong on this

I bought my D2 at 212***.
Recently hit 250k and the gearbox still shifts beautifully.
It's due for a fluid change, and I think that's a big part of getting the most out of the gearbox, keeping fresh, good quality fluid in the box.
Chances are if you find one at close to 300k the box will either be on its last legs or will have been replaced.

Originally Posted by Pezz

I have been looking at a possible replacement when I hit 500,000k's but there is nothing around today that will easily do 500,000k's.

New or second hand?

Originally Posted by BigJon

New or second hand?

As I capitalise over 15 years Im thinking new.

Whats the TDV8 like????