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    With Thermogard, you don't necessarily need to drill and tap. A 1/4" NPT tap will probably cost more than the replacement plate that is an option with the kit, and its already done for you. Just install and wire it up, its a nice kit.

    PS. Removing the centre muffler has got mixed reviews on a Disco1, can't speak for other vehicles. A straight through can does the same thing but cuts the resonance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    The 300tdi conveniently comes with a plate in the perfect spot:
    http://www.thermoguard.com.au/img2.jpg


    You just need to drill and tap it for a swagelok-type fitting - the probe goes through the middle and you tighten the nut to seal.
    Did u remove that plate to drill the hole or did u leave the plate intact and drill? If u left the plate on, how do u drill w/o getting metal bits from falling inside and into the turbo?

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    You remove the plate unless you want to kill the turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    You remove the plate unless you want to kill the turbo.
    Yeah, that's what I thought but what's the chances of those bolts snapping off when go to undo them?
    Wouldn't post turbo be just as good providing u realise the temp drop across the turbo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robmacca View Post
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    Wouldn't post turbo be just as good providing u realise the temp drop across the turbo?
    No. The temperature drop across the turbo is 0-300 oC depending on load.

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    Many a hole has been drilled with the bit tip dipped in grease, do it slowly and clean the metal filings as you go. Removing the plate is your safest option as removal of broken fasteners is still possible if you are unlucky and break one.
    Quote Originally Posted by benji View Post
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    Maybe we're expecting too much out of what really is a smallish motor allready pushing 2 tonnes. Just because it's a v8 doesn't mean it's powerfull.

    One answer REV IT BABY REV IT!!!

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    Excuse me for my lack of knowledge here, but what temps would you expect to see 'Pre" Turbo as to what Temps you would see "Post" Turbo ??

    300 degree in temp difference seems quite a big drop considering the closeness of probes (Pre & Post) and heat transfer, etc

    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    No. The temperature drop across the turbo is 0-300 oC depending on load.

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    Question

    I've heard of using the "grease" method on the Drill Bit, but that worries me as to how would u really know that no metal pieces have not dropped down into the turbo area??

    How often do these bolts snap off when u go to remove them? What can be done to minimize this from happening when undoing the bolts ??



    Quote Originally Posted by slug_burner View Post
    Many a hole has been drilled with the bit tip dipped in grease, do it slowly and clean the metal filings as you go. Removing the plate is your safest option as removal of broken fasteners is still possible if you are unlucky and break one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robmacca View Post
    Excuse me for my lack of knowledge here, but what temps would you expect to see 'Pre" Turbo as to what Temps you would see "Post" Turbo ??

    300 degree in temp difference seems quite a big drop considering the closeness of probes (Pre & Post) and heat transfer, etc

    Pre turbo the highest you even want to see is 750oC. That is also the max EGT value given in the isuzu manual for the 4BD1T.

    Post turbo you have no way of accurately calculating EGT, as the turbine takes variable amounts of heat out of the exhaust flow depending on how hard it is working. So as I said the numbers post turbo (lets say at 750oC pre turbo) will be anywhere between 750 and 450.

    Those using post turbo EGT probes usually assume a safety factor of 250-300oC (i.e. tune to max EGT of 450-500) however they have no way of knowing what the real values are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robmacca View Post


    How often do these bolts snap off when u go to remove them? What can be done to minimize this from happening when undoing the bolts ??



    I've undone the bolts on around 10 of these, not once had a bolt snap off. It's best to undo the bolts on a warm (not red hot) manifold IMHO as the cast iron expands slightly more than the steel bolts. Once loosened they'll come undone easily when you're ready to do the job, preferably on a cold engine. You'll need either a new gasket or some muffler putty on the old gasket as they get all crumbly with age.

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