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    Bleeding brakes

    Major grumps.

    Have been bleeding the brakes on the 98 V8 all day. Put through 1.5 litres of Blue fluid (old was yellow about 5 years old) using my Gunsons Eezibleed to change the fluid. Didn't pay a lot of attention to the old fluid coming out until it was all blue. But then realised I was getting a lot of air coming through the system. Previously brakes were not awe inspiring but seemed to work OK. So I put the wheels back on took it for a drive to check it out and the brakes actually seemed a bit better than they were before. Not happy with the amount of air bubbles I had seen, back on the jackstands and started bleeding again. After running 0.5 Litre twice (reusing the same fluid each time) through each wheel still lots of air coming through, got bored and just kept bleeding the Left rear while I got on with other maintenance tasks like changing a track rod end and greasing all the UJs. After about 10 bleeds (about 5 litres) at the left rear I had to add another 0.25 litre of fluid to my bottle suggesting that I had actually got rid of 0.25 litre of air. Carried on bleeding at the left rear - another 10 times (5 litres) and still getting air bubbles coming out. Now I am stumped.

    The only odd thing I have found is that the pedal is actually quite hard to push down even when the bleed nipple is open.

    Have i stumbled upon a gold mine of air in the ABS system that has been there for the whole time I have owned this Disco ?

    FWIW - brake flexis were changed about 8 years ago along with brake fluid reservoir. Didn't have any issues I can remember bleeding the brakes then.

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    Well I'm still not convinced I've got there. Wondered if there could be false air just getting into the system at the bleed nipple. I'm not really sure how this could happen given that I bled the system using a pressure bleeder (Gunsons Eezibleed) at between 15psi and 20psi but I suppose there could be some kind of Venturi effect as the fluid goes through the 1mm hole in the side of the bleed nipple then expands into the 3mm dia central bore of the the nipple. Mind you if someone told me it wasn't air but smoke escaping from the Lucas electrics I could believe that too at the moment.

    Anyway determined not to be beaten I flared a piece of brake pipe with a union nut on one end and clear hose on the other to screw in place of the bleed nipple. Ran 0.5L through each wheel and no air bubbles at all. Heartened by this I then sucked all the much recycled fluid out the reservoir, cleaned out the Eezibleed and refilled with new amber coloured fluid. Bled this through with bleed nipples in place not my adapter and still got air bubbles. Couldn't be bothered with it anymore so once the new fluid came through just buttoned it all up and called it a day.

    Been for a test drive and it does actually stop better but still not awe inspiring, but good enough to make the ABS work on my steep driveway.

    Can't help thinking it should be better though - My 94 Disco I had in NZ was much better as was my 93RRC (but that had the electric booster pump and no servo)

    Anyone else had this kind of problem.

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    Don't know the 98, so forgive me if this is a stupid question: does it have ABS?
    Last edited by Tins; 12th June 2017 at 05:16 PM. Reason: typo. Again.
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    MaoriD2a Guest
    You might need to cycle the abs unit

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    Chrisette Guest
    I've just developed air in my system too. Mine is a '98 TDi

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    Chrisette Guest
    Tried to bleed it's system and only found air in the front right, but it was unending. The Disco is still stoppable, but at the moment the brakes can be spongy at times.

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